Politics

[Mounts Kipper]

Piers Morgan nails it. 

 

British politicians now using their murdered former colleague Jo Cox to wage their viciously tribal Brexit war. Parliament has reached a new low, on all sides. Disgraceful.

[Guest]

Humbug and surrender; is that why they are “woke” and “melts”?

[TM Trotter]

1 hour ago, miamiwhite said:

Probably because I sussed you from your first post and smelt a rat instantly.

Now be a good boy, go away and block me.

Are you still harping on about who you think I am? 😂 

Before last week, you and I had never spoken. Either accept that, or change your meds. 

[Winchester White]

Stoking up this 'people vs parliament' is bollocks. Boris loved parliaments power when he fucked over TM and her deal, before voting for it in the end of course.

Also implying the judiciary is bent is not becoming of an MP never mind PM.  He is our Trump.

[TM Trotter]

11 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Piers Morgan nails it. 

 

British politicians now using their murdered former colleague Jo Cox to wage their viciously tribal Brexit war. Parliament has reached a new low, on all sides. Disgraceful.

Not often I agree with Morgan, but that is spot on. Embarrassing, distasteful, pathetic. 

[Zico]

2 hours ago, kent_white said:

Armando Iannucci sums it up pretty well!

 

 

Not seen that clip in years, I always thought it was Steve Coogan

 

[Guest]

9 minutes ago, Winchester White said:

Stoking up this 'people vs parliament' is bollocks. Boris loved parliaments power when he fucked over TM and her deal, before voting for it in the end of course.

Also implying the judiciary is bent is not becoming of an MP never mind PM.  He is our Trump.

What stance should he take, in your view?

[Jol_BWFC]

59 minutes ago, Moon boy said:

What’s that?

You tell me.

On 20/09/2019 at 13:04, Moon boy said:

He probably did, did you get that of Facebook?

(Sic)

Edited September 25, 2019 by Jol_BWFC

[fatolive]

The whole thing is shite. No reasoned rational debate anymore.

some people, mainly on memes on Facebook and the like, but also even on here, lambasted and called Jeremy Corbyn all the names under the sun , traitor etc because he didn’t sing God save the Queen, or wear a tie when meeting her, now making excuses for Boris lying/ misleading her as that’s ok he’s allowed an opinion or thought he was right. 

people wanting power for our own courts, until they make a judgment, based on the constitution, and they are remainers, despite the fact the judgement and subject had nothing at all to do with Brexit. ( the subject, not the legal challenge ) 

Saying remainers in parliament didn’t want Brexit when it was as much hard line leavers who,prevented any deal to leave.

and at the end of all this, we are probably going to end up leaving with something  of the original agreement ,  special economic status for NI , to remove the border issue that was scuppered by the DUP initially.

 

what a load of shite it really is and has been. 

[miamiwhite]

14 minutes ago, TM Trotter said:

Are you still harping on about who you think I am? 😂 

Before last week, you and I had never spoken. Either accept that, or change your meds. 

No meds for me chum, you should change your MO

 

[Guest]

Debate on the Rights of the Electorate tomorrow 

[Guest]

16 minutes ago, Winchester White said:

Stoking up this 'people vs parliament' is bollocks. Boris loved parliaments power when he fucked over TM and her deal, before voting for it in the end of course.

Also implying the judiciary is bent is not becoming of an MP never mind PM.  He is our Trump.

Stoking up people vs courts, parliament etc is not that dissimilar to the way the fascist movement across Europe in the 20s and 30s operated. It just isn’t in any way acceptable. 

Johnson has absolutely no standards of decency. Though I think he is being advised by people with even lower standards than he possesses.

[Guest]

1 minute ago, bwfcfan5 said:

Stoking up people vs courts, parliament etc is not that dissimilar to the way the fascist movement across Europe in the 20s and 30s operated. It just isn’t in any way acceptable. 

Johnson has absolutely no standards of decency. Though I think he is being advised by people with even lower standards than he possesses.

In your opinion, of course

[Winchester White]

 

6 minutes ago, boltondiver said:

What stance should he take, in your view?

One that doesn't involve lying would help.  Inciting undeserved vitriol towards the judiciary and MPs who don't happen to agree with him isn't cricket either.

[Salford Trotter]

49 minutes ago, Moon boy said:

Just a hunch

Thought so, you are just making stuff up 

[Duck Egg]

To get past this impasse I think the more moderate amongst the Brexiteers need to call a halt to the whole charade.  Accept that this is way too big a decision to plough ahead, based on such fine margins 52/48 & accept the status quo. Remain in Europe for now, with a binding referendum set for 5 years hence where say, 65% of voters have to vote to leave or remain. 

[Ani]

1 hour ago, Moon boy said:

In effect 11 privileged unelected Remainer judges have invented a new law to overule the the PM of the present  Government to prevent it carrying out the wishes of 17.4 million voters

‘11 privileged unelected remainer judges.’ 

This is typical of the level the debate has dropped to. No structured argument about what they have done wrong. So just a statement to belittle them.

Both sides are guilty of this just yours was the one I saw. The only thing these 11 have done wrong is come up with a decision you do not like. The flip side is people who probably did not know there was a Supreme Court last week throwing their toys out of the pram because someone has said they do not agree with the opinion of the 11. 

I honestly do not see what happens now. Boris legally can not leave without a deal , do not think there is time to make a deal. 

 

I think an election now could be a disaster. It would be an election based on one issue but whoever wins would be in charge for another 5 years.  

[Guest]

12 minutes ago, Duck Egg said:

To get past this impasse I think the more moderate amongst the Brexiteers need to call a halt to the whole charade.  Accept that this is way too big a decision to plough ahead, based on such fine margins 52/48 & accept the status quo. Remain in Europe for now, with a binding referendum set for 5 years hence where say, 65% of voters have to vote to leave or remain. 

Most amusing!

[Guest]

31 minutes ago, Winchester White said:

 

One that doesn't involve lying would help.  Inciting undeserved vitriol towards the judiciary and MPs who don't happen to agree with him isn't cricket either.

What lies has he told?

[mickbrown]

3 minutes ago, boltondiver said:

What lies has he told?

Recently?

[Salford Trotter]

7 minutes ago, boltondiver said:

What lies has he told?

Mendacity and Johnson are bed fellows

[Boothy]

Just put it back to an election. Labour would melt away, they're shit scared of it.

[Winchester White]

24 minutes ago, boltondiver said:

What lies has he told?

Oh come on BD. He said prorogation was nothing to do with Brexit then complained that people were using the courts to stop Brexit. He can't have it both ways. Also, did you not see him blatantly lie on TV last week to a parent in hospital that there were no press whilst pointing to them? In normal times that would be his 'Gordon Brown bigoted old women' moment but it was brushed off and cleverly avoided because the bloke was a Labour activist. 

Brexit is poisoning everything and Cummings is making capital out of that with a win at all costs ethic. The Jo Cox remarks were shocking tonight .

[Salford Trotter]

so we get an election before Brexit happens and we get another hung parliament that continues this paralysis would Leavers accept that then a second referendum is the only solution? Remain v Leave with No Deal as the options?

Edited September 25, 2019 by Salford Trotter

[Farrelli]

6 hours ago, boltondiver said:

In your opinion, of course

And mine, very similar tactics being used. Watch the first episode of 'rise of the Nazis' recently shown on BBC2.