Politics

[mickbrown]

54 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

The gauntlet thrown down to Johnson and the Conservative party. 

This will show what kind of leader he is.

Take them on or cave to a party without a single seat. 

What should he do Mounts?

[Mounts Kipper]

12 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

This will show what kind of leader he is.

Take them on or cave to a party without a single seat. 

What should he do Mounts?

Make the pact. 

[Guest]

1 minute ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Make the pact. 

After the election, in my view

[Moon boy]

Nigel wants Brexit more than anybody, he would love Boris to endorse him but this would taint BJ so TBP aren’t that stupid to split a Leave vote in a Tory seat so I think they will see common sense and push in northern Labour Leave seats where Leavers may not want to vote Tory

[Mounts Kipper]

4 minutes ago, boltondiver said:

After the election, in my view

Farage wants answer by 14th November, don’t need TPB and Tories splitting their votes. 

[Sweep]

1 hour ago, Salford Trotter said:

Farage announces TBP will contest every seat in England, Scotland and Wales.

I bet he won't, he's full of shit

[Mounts Kipper]

1 minute ago, Sweep said:

I bet he won't, he's full of shit

I think he’s the least full of shit politician there is. Funny how folk have polar opposite views. 

[mickbrown]

19 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Make the pact. 

Fair enough. 

Shows him to be pragmatic or weak as piss, depending on your point of view

[Sweep]

2 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

I think he’s the least full of shit politician there is. Funny how folk have polar opposite views. 

I just can't see him putting a candidate everywhere, especially in marginal Labour/Tory seats, as that could split the vote in those areas and potentially let Labour or Lib Dems in

 

I actually listen to Farage quite a lot, as he tends to be on when I'm in the car, and whilst he often speaks well, some of the stuff he says and backtracks on is amazing  -  by the way, I don't think he's anymore full of shit that any of the other politicians 

[Guest]

16 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Farage wants answer by 14th November, don’t need TPB and Tories splitting their votes. 

Many Leave Labour voters just wont vote Conservative 

they will vote Brexit Party

Its a risk either way, but I think the best chance is to play the election out and then together they’ll have a majority 

But, everything is speculation 

[Sweep]

5 minutes ago, boltondiver said:

Many Leave Labour voters just wont vote Conservative 

they will vote Brexit Party

Its a risk either way, but I think the best chance is to play the election out and then together they’ll have a majority 

 

It would be interesting to see how that works, as they both want very different kinds of Brexit - Farage is currently trumpeting that only a clean break will do, and Johnson is married to his "deal" as things stand. Imagine if they get a majority between them, and then decide they can't work together 

[royal white]

I’m still keen to find out what affect Boris’s lies have had on Cheeses life. 

[Guest]

6 minutes ago, Sweep said:

It would be interesting to see how that works, as they both want very different kinds of Brexit - Farage is currently trumpeting that only a clean break will do, and Johnson is married to his "deal" as things stand. Imagine if they get a majority between them, and then decide they can't work together 

If the Conservatives have 310 and Brexit 20, then the Conservatives have the whip hand and can authentically say it’s our way or no Brexit, with a few titbits.

[Cheese]

4 minutes ago, royal white said:

I’m still keen to find out what affect Boris’s lies have had on Cheeses life. 

Which of his lies do you want me to address? Or are you suggesting a Prime Minister doesn't have any influence on our lives? 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

42 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Make the pact. 

I think it would be a huge mistake. Certainly before the election.

Whilst much of farage's speech made some sense, from the Tory's point of view, they could potentially lose many votes from people who want to leave with a deal. Signing that pact means abandoning the deal. Could also have an effect on the support from his own MPs. 

Fwiw, I see this as just Farage doing his own bit of grandstanding; asking for more but will accept less. He's also emboldened by his mate's comments yesterday.

I'm not yet convinced they will put a candidate in every seat, even if they register them.

[Mounts Kipper]

11 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

I think it would be a huge mistake. Certainly before the election.

Whilst much of farage's speech made some sense, from the Tory's point of view, they could potentially lose many votes from people who want to leave with a deal. Signing that pact means abandoning the deal. Could also have an effect on the support from his own MPs. 

Fwiw, I see this as just Farage doing his own bit of grandstanding; asking for more but will accept less. He's also emboldened by his mate's comments yesterday.

I'm not yet convinced they will put a candidate in every seat, even if they register them.

It’s a tough call and as you say it might be better for Boris to leave the call until after the election. 

[royal white]

17 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Which of his lies do you want me to address? Or are you suggesting a Prime Minister doesn't have any influence on our lives? 

Just how they have affected you personally.

[Mounts Kipper]

1 minute ago, royal white said:

Just how they have affected you personally.

Saved him from having a banana shoved up his ring piece. Bet he’s gutted.😂

[Cheese]

2 minutes ago, royal white said:

Just how they have affected you personally.

Which one?

[royal white]

Just now, Cheese said:

Which one?

Any 

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Saved him from having a banana shoved up his ring piece. Bet he’s gutted.😂

Possibly deferred pleasure?

[Spider]

If TBP put a candidate in every seat, a hung parliament is the best tories can hope for. It even gives Corbyn a genuine sniff of number 10.

Making a pact with Farage means BoJo is utterly desperate, weak and out of options.

What a fucking mess 

[Mounts Kipper]

Just now, Spider said:

If TBP put a candidate in every seat, a hung parliament is the best tories can hope for. It even gives Corbyn a genuine sniff of number 10.

Making a pact with Farage means BoJo is utterly desperate, weak and out of options.

What a fucking mess 

Nothing will give Corbyn a sniff of number 10. 

[Spider]

2 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Nothing will give Corbyn a sniff of number 10. 

Still reckon it’s a Tory majority?

[Cheese]

30 minutes ago, royal white said:

Any 

I'm glad you acknowledge that he's a liar, which is what I was getting at. All of his lies affect our lives, because gullible/ignorant people believe them and will vote for him thinking he's going to make their lives better, while his actual plan will make it worse. He's claimed "the NHS is not for sale", whilst simultaneously telling the U.S it's up for grabs. Whether you like it or not, that will at affect all of us at some point, unless you're very wealthy.

If you don't care about your favourite politicians lying as long as you end up on the "winning" side, that's fine. More fool you. For someone who falsely accuses others of 'lying' on an extremely regular basis, you seem quite content to support actual proven liars.

Edited November 1, 2019 by Cheese