Politics

[miamiwhite]

5 minutes ago, paulhanley said:

You're doing better than me. I can only currently add Rob Hol-ding ! 

Just signed Alex Baptiste back on loan

[paulhanley]

1 minute ago, miamiwhite said:

Just signed Alex Baptiste back on loan

Very biblical! We could probably also chuck in Viv Solomon Otobor and Ben Amos! 

[paulhanley]

6 minutes ago, boltondiver said:

Will it be a ding dong do?

oh aye 🙂

[miamiwhite]

3 minutes ago, paulhanley said:

Very biblical! We could probably also chuck in Viv Solomon Otobor and Ben Amos! 

And John O'Kane.....though he wasn't very Able 

[paulhanley]

9 minutes ago, miamiwhite said:

And John O'Kane.....though he wasn't very Able 

He were a bit shit. He's from the old testament. Very much from the new - Josh Emmanuel.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

Didn't we once have a Duong Thatch or something?

[paulhanley]

4 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Didn't we once have a Duong Thatch or something?

Sounds like one of Big Sam's pre-season trialists. Or a Vietnmese version of Mrs T. God bless her.

Edited January 24, 2020 by paulhanley

[miamiwhite]

Just throw in Lent Antello in for our busy fixture list towards Easter.

[Guest]

2 hours ago, paulhanley said:

Six fingered mutants. Nice to know how you feel about your fellow townspeople. I've written a few times on here about the sneering attitude of liberals towards the working class. That post of yours has done a better job than I could ever do.

I think the joke went over your head...

[Guest]

Just now, bwfcfan5 said:

I think the joke went over your head...

He's a brexiteer!

[Not in Crawley]

47 minutes ago, miamiwhite said:

Just signed Alex Baptiste back on loan

Is Bolton Town Hall your pic with a Union flag? 
Perfect 😂

[Not in Crawley]

2 hours ago, paulhanley said:

Six fingered mutants. Nice to know how you feel about your fellow townspeople. I've written a few times on here about the sneering attitude of liberals towards the working class. That post of yours has done a better job than I could ever do.

Calm down, really. You’d find a ‘liberal conspiracy’ theory in a packet of crisps. 
 

Also, let’s have a look at the ‘Liberals’ on here, I’m guessing most are of this working class you claim to speak for. I thought the working class was as for betterment, for improvement, for working to puncture  the system, to be in positions of influence.

You are worse that the ‘elite’, you intrench your beliefs which makes it more difficult for those without money to succeed. Never, in the long history of this nation has shooting oneself in the foot been a national pastime, upheld be those who pretend to speak on behalf of those who have no voice. You call out others for being dismissive, your arrogance does begger belief at times. 

Cocker.

 

 

Edited January 24, 2020 by Not in Crawley

[paulhanley]

1 minute ago, Not in Crawley said:

Calm down, really. You’d find a ‘liberal conspiracy’ theory in a packet of crisps. 
 

Also, let’s have a look at the ‘Liberals’ on here, I’m guessing most are of this working class you claim to speak for. I thought the working class was as for betterment, for improvement, for working to puncture  the system, to be in positions of influence.

You are worse that the ‘elite’, you intrench your beliefs which makes it more difficult for those without money to succeed. Never, in the long history of this nation has shooting oneself in the foot been a national pastime, upheld be those who pretend to speak on behalf of those who have no voice. You call out others for being dismissive, your arrogance does begger belief at times. 

Cocker.

Entench starts with an E. Not an I.

[Not in Crawley]

I bow out, we’re onto Bolty style amends.

I’ll hand your arse back to you when you deserve it. 

[paulhanley]

10 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

I bow out, we’re onto Bolty style amends.

I’ll hand your arse back to you when you deserve it. 

If you say so, Siegfried.

[miamiwhite]

30 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

Is Bolton Town Hall your pic with a Union flag? 
Perfect 😂

Yes....glad you spotted the wind up 🇬🇧😉

[Not in Crawley]

5 minutes ago, paulhanley said:

If you say so, Siegfried.

I actually went to Robert Hardy’s funeral, he was a lovely bloke who worked with my other half for a short time. More a historian than an actor - his books on the Longbow are superb. 

[paulhanley]

19 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

I actually went to Robert Hardy’s funeral, he was a lovely bloke who worked with my other half for a short time. More a historian than an actor - his books on the Longbow are superb. 

I dimly knew about his non-acting stuff. He'll always be most famous to most folk for Mr Farnon. However one of my favourite roles of his was as one of the villains in an episode of Jeremy Brett's Sherlock Holmes adaptations. "The Master Blackmailer".

[Not in Crawley]

46 minutes ago, paulhanley said:

I dimly knew about his non-acting stuff. He'll always be most famous to most folk for Mr Farnon. However one of my favourite roles of his was as one of the villains in an episode of Jeremy Brett's Sherlock Holmes adaptations. "The Master Blackmailer".

Lovely man, my leaving gift from my last job was the box set of All Creatures. 

[paulhanley]

9 hours ago, Not in Crawley said:

Lovely man, my leaving gift from my last job was the box set of All Creatures. 

Classic stuff. As are the original books by James Herriott. Did Biggins ever pay his bill?

[Winchester White]

This a a pretty long piece but shows how horribly complex things are going to get...

https://www.politics.co.uk/blogs/2020/01/23/brexit-2020-everything-you-need-to-know-about-johnson-s-trad

 

[Cheese]

21 minutes ago, Winchester White said:

This a a pretty long piece but shows how horribly complex things are going to get...

https://www.politics.co.uk/blogs/2020/01/23/brexit-2020-everything-you-need-to-know-about-johnson-s-trad

 

Too many words. It's far easier to just shout "Brexit is done!" whilst wearing a Union Jack hat in a Wetherspoons.

[Rudy]

55 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Too many words. It's far easier to just shout "Brexit is done!" whilst wearing a Union Jack hat in a Wetherspoons.

Or what’s known as ‘doing a miami’

[paulhanley]

A piece by the brilliant Janet Daly of the Telegraph. I hope you enjoy it.

The BBC is panicking at the public’s rejection of its arrogant Left-liberal worldview

 

This is nearly over – this weird disconnect between what most of us understand as reality and the world as seen through the eyes of an all pervasive Authority that was apparently appointed (although we never knew by whom) to establish the limits of public discourse. The crisis of confidence at the BBC – and make no mistake, it is a full blown, all alarm bells ringing, catastrophic crisis – is probably the most visible sign of the shift but it is much bigger than this.

So bear with me: I promise that the whole column is not going to be about the BBC, even though it is easily the most infuriating and useful exemplar of the problem.

 

But no, what could be about to implode is not just the sublime, unlimited self-regard of the broadcasters. It is nothing less than the whole interlocking set of preconceptions that are so embedded in the consciousness of those who decide what it is acceptable to think that they must ignore or traduce anything that contradicts them.

Of course, self-doubt should have begun with the Brexit referendum result but that scarcely slowed them down: if a majority of the country were benighted bigots then it was up to the enlightened ones to lead them out of the darkness. Or to bully them out of it. And believe it or not, a good many of the Enlightened actually believed they had succeeded in this – hence the demand for a second referendum which would allow the masses to repent of their ignorance.

 

Then came the general election which was, in effect, a second referendum. And that was the end. You could hear the sound of an edifice falling to the ground and smashing into pieces as you watched the television coverage of this cataclysm. It was such a resounding and utterly unexpected repudiation not just of the mindset of the BBC but of virtually all of the broadcast media – and the cultural circles in which their denizens travel – that it will probably be a generation before they recover. If they ever recover.

Indeed, we must hope that the vainglorious arrogance never does return. What we want is not another set of sacred tenets which can be enforced with monolithic certainty, but humility: a genuinely liberal regard for differing opinions. But you know all this. Everybody knows it – except apparently the broadcast executives who are now running around in crazy circles like ants whose nest has been demolished.

Presumably this sense of mission to enforce a moral doctrine and prescribe its rules to a grateful nation emerged from the post-war period when rationing and rebuilding dominated the country’s priorities. The most charitable interpretation of this phenomenon is that it began as a belief that it was the duty owed by the educated classes to British working people who had endured terrible deprivations and danger.

If you listen to the patronising tone of the many public information pronouncements of the time, this is what you hear: we are going to create a new future with better housing, a fairer distribution of resources, state-run services and comprehensive health and welfare provision. You must trust our judgment in all things: we know better than you what is needed. Which is pretty much exactly the tone that the political descendants of those public policy managers adopt today, only now they are talking about climate change, multiculturalism, economic globalisation and gender identity.

 

Arguably, a good many of the solutions that the Enlightened Benefactors imposed on society even in that earlier incarnation were wrong-headed or dangerously skewed by the political fashions of the time. Were vast council estates really a social improvement on the old Victorian terraces which might have been renovated rather than demolished? Were rationing and the nationalising of public services actually ways of ensuring fairness, or just a handicap to economic recovery?

 

But at least back then it was plausible to claim that most people in the country bought into those beliefs. The trauma of the war had created a genuine sense of national unanimity. There had probably never been such widespread agreement on priorities and so much willingness to make sacrifices for the general good. If the specific programmes were questionable, they would be challenged only by a small and rather unpopular minority of sceptics.

 

Needless to say, that is not the case with the doctrines being enforced by the great unidentifiable Authority now. Even if you accept that climate change is a fact, you might want to see less shrill alarmism and more attention paid to possible solutions that do not involve pauperising the developing world. (The BBC recently put Sir David Attenborough’s announcement of imminent climate crisis at the top of its main news bulletins. With great respect to the saintly Sir David, something that he says is not the most important news story of any day.)

 

You may welcome migrants of all colours and backgrounds, and have limitless compassion for the disabled, without wishing to see classic literary texts re-written and programme presentation rotas designed to ensure their visibility. You may sympathise with the problems of sexual minorities but be disturbed by the proportion of attention that is devoted to their demands. In other words, you may be angry and frustrated by the implicit assumption that you and your reservations are beyond the pale.

 

I am sure it is not an accident that adversaries of the official enlightened wisdom are only invited to participate in broadcast debate under the most loaded and disadvantaged circumstances, to be set against a solid phalanx of the upholders of Virtue – which is why so many of us have given up trying. It is really rather difficult to argue with people who think you don’t have a right to exist (quite literally, in the case of Israel).

But the truth has finally hit. To adapt a notorious Corbynism, we are the many and they are the few, and it is time we were given our proper place in respectable conversation.

 

 

[Cheese]

12 minutes ago, paulhanley said:

To adapt a notorious Corbynism, we are the many and they are the few, and it is time we were given our proper place in respectable conversation.

YEAH! GET BREXIT DONE!