Spider Posted January 28, 2021 Posted January 28, 2021 Just now, boltondiver said: She says that she wants to join the EU, whether they let her in is another matter. She detests England. We detest the EU. So much that we essentially told them to fuck off. Nationalism it may be, but it applies in all cases. Quote
Guest Posted January 28, 2021 Posted January 28, 2021 Just now, miamiwhite said: What's their name stand for ? I think that gives a big clue. The word she tries to hide? Quote
Spider Posted January 28, 2021 Posted January 28, 2021 Just now, miamiwhite said: What's their name stand for ? I think that gives a big clue. Nationalism is bad Black and white. Quote
Ani Posted January 28, 2021 Posted January 28, 2021 4 minutes ago, kent_white said: Why is she bothering at all though? What's in it for her if she does? Has Scotland been short changed or something? She would argue it is about transparency so people know when they will get a vaccine. See the link from Sky from last time she released the information Quote
miamiwhite Posted January 28, 2021 Author Posted January 28, 2021 5 minutes ago, kent_white said: Why is she bothering at all though? What's in it for her if she does? Has Scotland been short changed or something? Honestly no idea why she is doing it. Figures up there show roughly 400k of vaccines haven't been given out yet. Friends there are baffled by it. Quote
Guest Posted January 28, 2021 Posted January 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Spider said: We detest the EU. So much that we essentially told them to fuck off. Nationalism it may be, but it applies in all cases. Nationalism is generally defined as : ”identification with one's own nation and support for its interests, especially to the exclusion or detriment of the interests of other nations.” Yes, we voted leave as we identified with our own nation, but not to the detriment or exclusion or the interests of other nations. As you know, the EU isn’t a nation anyway. Quote
Cheese Posted January 28, 2021 Posted January 28, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Ani said: She would argue it is about transparency so people know when they will get a vaccine. See the link from Sky from last time she released the information Some people seem to spend their entire lives wishing they could have lived through WW2, so they project imaginary war scenarios onto current events. It is very odd, but it's easy to understand how it happens when you look at the front pages of the tabloids every single day. Edited January 28, 2021 by Cheese Quote
Spider Posted January 28, 2021 Posted January 28, 2021 (edited) How is scottish independence to the detriment or exclusion of other nations? Edited January 28, 2021 by Spider Quote
Guest Posted January 28, 2021 Posted January 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Spider said: How is scottish independence to the detriment or exclusion of other nations? It isn’t independence she’s after Quote
Spider Posted January 28, 2021 Posted January 28, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, boltondiver said: It isn’t independence she’s after 1 minute ago, boltondiver said: It isn’t independence she’s after “Should Scotland be an independent country ?” The exact words on the referendum Edited January 28, 2021 by Spider Quote
Guest Posted January 28, 2021 Posted January 28, 2021 Just now, boltondiver said: It isn’t independence she’s after If Scotland were to leave, it would, in my emotional viewpoint, a loss to our nation. A fundamental part of Britain. Quote
Guest Posted January 28, 2021 Posted January 28, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Spider said: “Should Scotland be an independent country ?” The exact words on the referendum But which she constantly moaned that she doesn’t want. She moans about everything, though. Youre just being contrary now. You aren’t @Cheese, you know! Edited January 28, 2021 by boltondiver Quote
Spider Posted January 28, 2021 Posted January 28, 2021 Just now, boltondiver said: If Scotland were to leave, it would, in my emotional viewpoint, a loss to our nation. A fundamental part of Britain. On that we absolutely agree. I just find it odd that when scotland have a referendum on leaving an alliance, it is feverish nationalism. When the UK have one, it’s not. Quote
Guest Posted January 28, 2021 Posted January 28, 2021 Just now, Spider said: On that we absolutely agree. I just find it odd that when scotland have a referendum on leaving an alliance, it is feverish nationalism. When the UK have one, it’s not. I already outlined my views on how that might be different for some/many people. i love Scotland. A bit less than I used to, I just hope that they wake up. But, if they want to leave, then they should. Rather than being conned. Quote
miamiwhite Posted January 28, 2021 Author Posted January 28, 2021 5 minutes ago, Spider said: On that we absolutely agree. I just find it odd that when scotland have a referendum on leaving an alliance, it is feverish nationalism. When the UK have one, it’s not. We wanted to leave a failing trading bloc. Scotland wants to leave for separatist reasons. Quote
Spider Posted January 28, 2021 Posted January 28, 2021 Just now, miamiwhite said: We wanted to leave a failing trading bloc. Scotland wants to leave for separatist reasons. Sovereignty. Quote
miamiwhite Posted January 28, 2021 Author Posted January 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Spider said: Sovereignty. Have a look back at that word BD and myself mentioned last night or the night before, comes in handy at times 😉 Quote
Spider Posted January 28, 2021 Posted January 28, 2021 Just now, miamiwhite said: Have a look back at that word BD and myself mentioned last night or the night before, comes in handy at times 😉 What word? And before you invite me to, no I won’t crawl back through 80 pages of the shit. Quote
Escobarp Posted January 28, 2021 Posted January 28, 2021 23 minutes ago, Spider said: So Scottish Nationalism = Bad. British nationalism = Good Not quite true. They want independence. There is no guarantee they would join the EU (which will be a defunct entity in a few years anyway, by some accounts). Independence is independence regardless of who you wish to separate from. America. Former Soviet states. Former Yugoslav states. All wanted sovereignty and the ability to self govern. Brexit, as defined by itself, was the same. Nationalism is “bad” Ergo, Brexit is “bad” Just maybe, nationalism is too strong a definition for either. arrogantly she believes we will Be accepted into the EU as a country with no issue. If the EU said now, today, it’s a complete no go. She wouldnt back off I’m in no doubt but Because the cannot sustain itself and would be bankrupt it would become clear to more than enough people and I think the support would die off sufficiently to dampen the flames. she is, As I’ve highlighted many times and as some others have also, totally anti English. That’s her key driver. ABE Quote
miamiwhite Posted January 28, 2021 Author Posted January 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Spider said: What word? And before you invite me to, no I won’t crawl back through 80 pages of the shit. The S word you used. Page 159 was an example of it. Quote
Spider Posted January 28, 2021 Posted January 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, miamiwhite said: The S word you used. Page 159 was an example of it. Page 159???? Youve scrolled back to March 2018 to pick out a word beginning with S? I’ll pass Quote
Not in Crawley Posted January 28, 2021 Posted January 28, 2021 3 minutes ago, Escobarp said: arrogantly she believes we will Be accepted into the EU as a country with no issue. If the EU said now, today, it’s a complete no go. She wouldnt back off I’m in no doubt but Because the cannot sustain itself and would be bankrupt it would become clear to more than enough people and I think the support would die off sufficiently to dampen the flames. she is, As I’ve highlighted many times and as some others have also, totally anti English. That’s her key driver. ABE Well, there is also the lineage from the Scottish Enlightenment, which I'm sure she'd say the SNP was carrying the intellectual torch and the thoughts from people like Tom Nairn. Quote
miamiwhite Posted January 28, 2021 Author Posted January 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, Spider said: Page 159???? Youve scrolled back to March 2018 to pick out a word beginning with S? I’ll pass Sorry, 1559 😄 Quote
Spider Posted January 28, 2021 Posted January 28, 2021 Just now, miamiwhite said: Sorry, 1559 😄 Page 160 by the way... Looks like I win again. Quote
Ani Posted January 28, 2021 Posted January 28, 2021 11 minutes ago, miamiwhite said: We wanted to leave a failing trading bloc. Scotland wants to leave for separatist reasons. When people said 'why' Leavers voted Leave they were slagged off for assuming the reasons. You mean Sturgeon wants to Leave for separatist reasons, plenty of others may have other reasons. Quote
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