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19 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

The usual disingenuous "Boris' deal"

Strange, because any 'deal' involves more than one party, and is as a result of negotiation. 

Must have missed the bit where he unilaterally decided what it would be and the EU just accepted it.

As it happens it's not great, but it's not bad.

Nothing to stop both parties working on improvements as the years go by. Which will be easier if successive governments grasp whatever opportunities it affords and make the best use of it for the benefit of the nation.

So you agree we should work with the EU to fine tune the detail ? Rather than ripping up the bits we do like and telling the EU to suck it up ? 

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46 minutes ago, Whitesince63 said:

Olly Robbins capitulated the original deal which thankfully was massively rejected by Parliament and ultimately led to the dismissal of Traitor May. Frost and Boris attempted to salvage what they could from the deal in order to complete within the timescales in place. The Irish Protocol was always going to be a problem which is why both sides agreed to further negotiations in good faith, something which we now know is impossible for a corrupt and deceitful EU. We’re out, we’re never going back so swallow it. 

They set the timescale and could easily have extended the deadline to get it sorted but refused. Then they claimed it was a great deal. You are Rewriting history with complete bollocks🤓

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48 minutes ago, Whitesince63 said:

Olly Robbins capitulated the original deal which thankfully was massively rejected by Parliament and ultimately led to the dismissal of Traitor May. Frost and Boris attempted to salvage what they could from the deal in order to complete within the timescales in place. The Irish Protocol was always going to be a problem which is why both sides agreed to further negotiations in good faith, something which we now know is impossible for a corrupt and deceitful EU. We’re out, we’re never going back so swallow it. 

You keep forgetting to shoot down the remoaners by explaining the border.

Its almost like you just copy headlines from the tabloids word for word.

Traitor May. Grrr. Booo. Grrrrr

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42 minutes ago, Ani said:

And anyone who asked what is going to happen with the Irish border was dismissed as a Remoaner because there was going to be a technology solution. 
 

The EU are corrupt and deceitful whereas Boris and his mates have proven to be such paragons of virtue. 
 

It is still everyone else's fault 

Indeed. Brexit was completely the brainchild of Tories, the leave campaign was full of lies so they achieved the desired outcome and it was then delivered by the most untrustworthy charlatan ever to be PM. Now they want to blame Theresa May. Laughable. Own it boys🇬🇧

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1 minute ago, Farrelli said:

Indeed. Brexit was completely the brainchild of Tories, the leave campaign was full of lies so they achieved the desired outcome and it was then delivered by the most untrustworthy charlatan ever to be PM. Now they want to blame Theresa May. Laughable. Own it boys🇬🇧

TBF W63 was the one arguing last season that we needed to change our tactics and style of play after we had taken 28 out of 30 points, so he does not let facts affect his opinions. 

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1 minute ago, Spider said:

For all remoaners can whinge and whine 

Theres none that get quite as foamy-mouthed and fuming as a Brexit pinkchops when they get going.

Proper Ronnie Pickerings.

Has our resident keyboard Ronnie Pickering been banned or just sobering up (until the weekend) out of interest? 

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1 hour ago, Ani said:

TBF W63 was the one arguing last season that we needed to change our tactics and style of play after we had taken 28 out of 30 points, so he does not let facts affect his opinions. 

It was a disappointing draw, though 😉

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Probably mentioned elsewhere already, so sorry if I'm repeating someone's point, but...

Today a priceless gold hat with a 317-carat diamond and 400 other jewels was driven in a custom-made Rolls Royce to a £2.5 billion palace, where it was placed next to a gold chair in which sat one of the world's richest men, who told 2 million hungry Britons there's no money.

A tad out of touch?

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17 minutes ago, Morizio said:

Michael Gove on BBC breakfast doing hilarious funny voices whilst being interviewed about people starving.

They're just a set of heartless couldn't give a fuck cunts.

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12 hours ago, Ani said:

So you agree we should work with the EU to fine tune the detail ? Rather than ripping up the bits we do like and telling the EU to suck it up ? 

The problem is Ani, you can’t negotiate with the EU unless it’s on their terms. May and Robbins never even attempted a true Brexit, just as much of a deal as they could swing but keeping as close to the EU as they could. Right from the outset they let the EU set and run the agenda. That’s not a negotiation, it’s a capitulation and that’s what got us into the mess we’re in now. Don’t forget their answer to Ireland was the backstop which would have been even worse than the protocol which at least allowed for further negotiations to take place. Boris had to get Brexit done as promised and yes he did take a flier on being able to renegotiate parts later but that’s what happens with all agreements as they develop. Sadly the EU will not negotiate in good faith continuing to punish the UK for leaving and dissuade others from considering likewise. Despite the initial pain we should have gone with no deal but we are where we are and if the only path now is unilateral action then so be it.

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11 hours ago, Ani said:

TBF W63 was the one arguing last season that we needed to change our tactics and style of play after we had taken 28 out of 30 points, so he does not let facts affect his opinions. 

Please show me the post you’re referring to. 🤔

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46 minutes ago, Morizio said:

Michael Gove on BBC breakfast doing hilarious funny voices whilst being interviewed about people starving.

Just listened to him on the radio 

interviewer: “ we’ll all that doesn’t solve Natalie’s problem of not being able to afford 3 meals a day for her kids and the rent , what should Natalie do now in order to be able to provide for her children and not become destitute  ?” 
 
Gove: “ it’s not for me to tell Natalie how to live her life, that would be patronising “ 

 

 

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45 minutes ago, Whitesince63 said:

The problem is Ani, you can’t negotiate with the EU unless it’s on their terms. May and Robbins never even attempted a true Brexit, just as much of a deal as they could swing but keeping as close to the EU as they could. Right from the outset they let the EU set and run the agenda. That’s not a negotiation, it’s a capitulation and that’s what got us into the mess we’re in now. Don’t forget their answer to Ireland was the backstop which would have been even worse than the protocol which at least allowed for further negotiations to take place. Boris had to get Brexit done as promised and yes he did take a flier on being able to renegotiate parts later but that’s what happens with all agreements as they develop. Sadly the EU will not negotiate in good faith continuing to punish the UK for leaving and dissuade others from considering likewise. Despite the initial pain we should have gone with no deal but we are where we are and if the only path now is unilateral action then so be it.

You forgot to tell us all about the Irish border solution.

You being the expert, an’ all.

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54 minutes ago, Whitesince63 said:

Please show me the post you’re referring to. 🤔

Can not be arsed trawling through but you were saying we did not score enough goals and should be killing games off by being more attacking/better attacking you made the same point repeatable. 
People can either believe me or not or they may remember the posts themselves. 

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