What is that "mate" of mine Sadiq Khan trying to achieve ?

 

You lost you demented little cretin, get over it and concentrate on your job you terrorist sympathiser.

5 hours ago, Carlos said:

Getting banned in the morning…

Fair enough.

12 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

How old are you?

Pathetic piece of human scum.

I'd also add it is typical. Every time abuse after abuse. No rational response whatsoever. 

 

Just ignore the clown he’s got some issues the internet isn’t the place for him 

13 hours ago, mickbrown said:

Blimey. That's quite a take on it.

The best bit, Boris and integrity in the same sentence 😃

It's all over the news this morning. Has he inadvertently put pressure on the police?

I'm not defending those who broke rules in number 10- they got fined and fair enough. We all know Boris chats shit at times and isn't good on detail.

That's what starmer was supposed to do though; tackle him on accuracy and then introduce policy that is an alternative. 

Incessant focus on these parties has backfired which has resulted in him potentially digging his own grave. 

Clearly a smart move polically to try to take Boris down with him.

Important not to comment during police investigation though, he could leave himself wide open to further accusations. Just very surprised given his background that he didn't keep his powder dry.

4 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

It's all over the news this morning. Has he inadvertently put pressure on the police?

I'm not defending those who broke rules in number 10- they got fined and fair enough. We all know Boris chats shit at times and isn't good on detail.

That's what starmer was supposed to do though; tackle him on accuracy and then introduce policy that is an alternative. 

Incessant focus on these parties has backfired which has resulted in him potentially digging his own grave. 

Clearly a smart move polically to try to take Boris down with him.

Important not to comment during police investigation though, he could leave himself wide open to further accusations. Just very surprised given his background that he didn't keep his powder dry.

Not so smart if Starmer and Rayner are forced to resign and Johnson carries merrily on his way.

9 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Not so smart if Starmer and Rayner are forced to resign and Johnson carries merrily on his way.

Yeh I’m sure that will be a vote winner. “For zero integrity” Vote Tory😂

22 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

It's all over the news this morning. Has he inadvertently put pressure on the police?

I'm not defending those who broke rules in number 10- they got fined and fair enough. We all know Boris chats shit at times and isn't good on detail.

That's what starmer was supposed to do though; tackle him on accuracy and then introduce policy that is an alternative. 

Incessant focus on these parties has backfired which has resulted in him potentially digging his own grave. 

Clearly a smart move polically to try to take Boris down with him.

Important not to comment during police investigation though, he could leave himself wide open to further accusations. Just very surprised given his background that he didn't keep his powder dry.

It's all over the Daily Mail this morning.

If this was the Conservatives some on here would be lauding it, let's be honest about that.

Basically, he's played a deft hand. Either way the Labour Party as a whole come out of this looking better and they've taken control of the story, which is why certain parts of the media are now going hell for leather on this pressure on the police line, it's the only recourse, and most see that for what it is.

They've drawn a line in the sand and dared Johnson and the Cabinet to cross it, which they won't because they now can't.

It's not perfect, and it's still a risk, but it's a gamble that could pay off.

22 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Not so smart if Starmer and Rayner are forced to resign and Johnson carries merrily on his way.

The Labour Party then looks like the party of integrity, that they are not above the law.

Johnson would be doing nothing merrily. They could, and should, beat him with that. It'd be hard to argue against and it'll play dreadfully with voters, apart from those that will defend him at all costs.

1 minute ago, Not in Crawley said:

The Labour Party then looks like the party of integrity, that they are not above the law.

Johnson would be doing nothing merrily. They could, and should, beat him with that. It'd be hard to argue against and it'll play dreadfully with voters, apart from those that will defend him at all costs.

I doubt that, Johnson has accepted the fine and as such is not saying he is above the law, Starmer has picked a stupid fight here and if he is forced to resign it will throw the Labour party into a new leader ship election, open up old wounds and potentially throw the Labour part into chaos.   

i'll say one thing, theres some amazing spin from a couple of blues on here

missed a trick, really should be at tory HQ

5 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

I doubt that, Johnson has accepted the fine and as such is not saying he is above the law, Starmer has picked a stupid fight here and if he is forced to resign it will throw the Labour party into a new leader ship election, open up old wounds and potentially throw the Labour part into chaos.   

Fair enough on you not believing it, but that's not what the polling suggests.

He's not picked a fight has he? He's said he'll do what anyone should in public office if they were found in breach of the law and resign. That politicians are not above the rules the rest of us abide by.

If it does come to a new leadership, it's fine for the party as its 2 years out from the general election and given you yourself want a more dynamic opposition then this could be the time. As well as a new team being able to whack Johnson and the Conservatives with their inability to take responsibility for their mistakes.

 

2 minutes ago, Casino said:

i'll say one thing, theres some amazing spin from a couple of blues on here

missed a trick, really should be at tory HQ

Party HQs want zealots voting, not conducting strategy 🙂

49 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

It's all over the news this morning. Has he inadvertently put pressure on the police?

I'm not defending those who broke rules in number 10- they got fined and fair enough. We all know Boris chats shit at times and isn't good on detail.

That's what starmer was supposed to do though; tackle him on accuracy and then introduce policy that is an alternative. 

Incessant focus on these parties has backfired which has resulted in him potentially digging his own grave. 

Clearly a smart move polically to try to take Boris down with him.

Important not to comment during police investigation though, he could leave himself wide open to further accusations. Just very surprised given his background that he didn't keep his powder dry.

Nah. The police won't give a shit if he resigns or not.

 

15 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

I doubt that, Johnson has accepted the fine and as such is not saying he is above the law, Starmer has picked a stupid fight here and if he is forced to resign it will throw the Labour party into a new leader ship election, open up old wounds and potentially throw the Labour part into chaos.   

Accepted the fine? So we have a choice? 

I can just fuck off that speeding fine I'd I like then?

 

13 hours ago, Cheese said:

Do you really not understand how mental that is? Frost NEGOTIATED the fucking protocol. You Brexiters are totally fucking mad.

Frost didn’t negotiate the protocol, he inherited the mess from what Treason May capitulated to and though Frost managed to amend one or two areas, it was always accepted that further changes would need to be made over time. Both sides agreed to proceed with flexibility except that the EU don’t understand flexibility and have continually refused to discuss sensible amendments. 

10 minutes ago, Casino said:

i'll say one thing, theres some amazing spin from a couple of blues on here

missed a trick, really should be at tory HQ

You’re not kidding, like spinning tops😂

Many on the left of centre would believe that the Labour Party would be stronger after a leadership election.

Just now, Whitesince63 said:

Frost didn’t negotiate the protocol, he inherited the mess from what Treason May capitulated to and though Frost managed to amend one or two areas, it was always accepted that further changes would need to be made over time. Both sides agreed to proceed with flexibility except that the EU don’t understand flexibility and have continually refused to discuss sensible amendments. 

Frost was chief brexit negotiator during 2019 when the revised WA and NI protocol were agreed. 

The Johnson Cultists cannot see it any other way.

His bluff and bluster act is all they are interested in.

Ever watched a 3 month old with one of those mobiles that dangle over their cot? 

6 minutes ago, Traf said:

Many on the left of centre would believe that the Labour Party would be stronger after a leadership election.

Its also about Starmer trying to shake his steady eddie image, that he can do the high stakes stuff as well.

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They will be found to have broke the rules but no fine issued as not in the public interest, where would that leave him and Rayner

23 minutes ago, Farrelli said:

Frost was chief brexit negotiator during 2019 when the revised WA and NI protocol were agreed. 

He didn’t start from the beginning, he inherited what was already there as you’ve already accepted by indicating a “revised” agreement, which is exactly what I said. If Frosty had started from the beginning no way would we have ended up where we are. Sadly Traitor May and her capitulators always intended to keep us as closely tied to the EU as possible which is exactly why we’re in this mess now. Until we are completely free of any links to the EU, Brexit hast not been effected. Hopefully Liz Truss has now realised and accepted that she will never achieve anything sensible from the EU and take steps to scrap the protocol completely and return NI to the U.K. as it should be.

10 minutes ago, athywhite1958 said:

They will be found to have broke the rules but no fine issued as not in the public interest, where would that leave him and Rayner

If they are found to have broke the rules there will be a fine, its not nothing to do with public interest

If, however they take the stance they took with Dominic Cummings they he probably wouldn't resign - depending on the findings. That's the gamble.

9 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

If they are found to have broke the rules there will be a fine, its not nothing to do with public interest

If, however they take the stance they took with Dominic Cummings they he probably wouldn't resign - depending on the findings. That's the gamble.

The Tories leant on the Durham police not to prosecute Cummings, but are leaning on them to prosecute Starmer?

16 minutes ago, Whitesince63 said:

He didn’t start from the beginning, he inherited what was already there as you’ve already accepted by indicating a “revised” agreement, which is exactly what I said. If Frosty had started from the beginning no way would we have ended up where we are. Sadly Traitor May and her capitulators always intended to keep us as closely tied to the EU as possible which is exactly why we’re in this mess now. Until we are completely free of any links to the EU, Brexit hast not been effected. Hopefully Liz Truss has now realised and accepted that she will never achieve anything sensible from the EU and take steps to scrap the protocol completely and return NI to the U.K. as it should be.

He was chief negotiator of the deal that was agreed. If he didn’t like the protocol why did he sign it ? Blaming Theresa May is frankly ridiculous.

you do realise that if we scrap the protocol unilaterally that is breaking an international agreement and will have serious consequences for the UK.

The people to blame for this are Bozo and his chums who won an election by falsely claiming this to be a great deal😂