Site Supporter Cheese Posted April 22, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted April 22, 2023 3 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: Aye I’m going to waste my time making up stuff to justify my point…. Plenty of evidence out there if you look. Sadly I’ve never worked in the civil service so any evidence presented is circumstantial. You choose to believe it or not I couldn’t care less and furthermore as per usual no point in discussing stuff with you. Got it. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 13 minutes ago, Winchester White said: How come it's the useless fuckers who get called out for bullying? Raab, Patel, Williamson... A KC studied all the evidence and came to a conclusion yet Mounts knows Raab is in the right somehow. Right OK. I've had a couple of bosses who were nasty fuckers. In both occasions they were out of their depth. It's no coincidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 Key points from the enquiry. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-65339102 nothing in that report tells me he’s a bully, Sunak should have backed him. Worlds gone soft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 1 minute ago, mickbrown said: I've had a couple of bosses who were nasty fuckers. In both occasions they were out of their depth. It's no coincidence. If Raab out of his depth Sunak should have sacked him for that, not for the evidence found in that report. Wasn’t Raab a big Boris supporter… that’ll be the reason he’s been forced out by sunak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted April 22, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted April 22, 2023 1 minute ago, Mounts Kipper said: Key points from the enquiry. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-65339102 nothing in that report tells me he’s a bully, Sunak should have backed him. Worlds gone soft. Why did he resign then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 Just now, Cheese said: Why did he resign then? Read between the lines. It’s not difficult. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted April 22, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted April 22, 2023 Just now, Mounts Kipper said: Read between the lines. It’s not difficult. It is. I'm stupid. Why did he resign? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, Cheese said: It is. I'm stupid. Why did he resign? He’d of been sacked but cut a deal to keep quiet, resign and he can fill his boots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrelli Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 1 hour ago, Winchester White said: What dragging of feet did we see with brexit by civil servants? They forgot to turn the oven on for the oven ready deal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted April 22, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted April 22, 2023 5 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: He’d of been sacked but cut a deal to keep quiet, resign and he can fill his boots. Why would they need him to "keep quiet"? About what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 1 minute ago, Cheese said: Why would they need him to "keep quiet"? About what? Raab already said plenty no doubt more to be said said in the next week or 2. Perhaps a book. ££££ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 Also there’s a battle going on in the Tory party, if Raab stays he’s aligned with the right, Sunak to the centre, could be plenty of Tory infighting between now and the next election. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jol_BWFC Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 16 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: If Raab out of his depth Sunak should have sacked him for that, not for the evidence found in that report. Wasn’t Raab a big Boris supporter… that’ll be the reason he’s been forced out by sunak. Raab endorsed Rishi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Jol_BWFC said: Raab endorsed Rishi. But he’s to the right of the party, not a good fit with Sunak. Tory party Will do better with centrist policies next election… doubt that’ll get them close to power though. Edited April 22, 2023 by Mounts Kipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyldesley_white Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 38 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: Key points from the enquiry. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-65339102 nothing in that report tells me he’s a bully, Sunak should have backed him. Worlds gone soft. FINDINGS: Mr Tolley KC found a description of bullying had been met, whilst Mr Raab was foreign secretary and justice secretary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 Just now, tyldesley_white said: FINDINGS: Mr Tolley KC found a description of bullying had been met, whilst Mr Raab was foreign secretary and justice secretary. It’s subjective, I’m probably old skool and not for me… think it’s all a party political decision, Sunak could easily of backed him and didn’t, that’s the real story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Winchester White Posted April 22, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted April 22, 2023 7 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: But he’s to the right of the party, not a good fit with Sunak. Tory party Will do better with centrist policies next election… doubt that’ll get them close to power though. You are just making stuff up, Raab and Sunak are known to be good friends and Raab publicly backed Sunak whe he went up against Truss. Sunak gave Braverman her job back after being sacked and she is of the right side of the Tories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyldesley_white Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: It’s subjective, I’m probably old skool and not for me… think it’s all a party political decision, Sunak could easily of backed him and didn’t, that’s the real story. Its subjective in your eyes, Seems Mr. Tolley (who saw the evidence) as better eye sight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrelli Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 4 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: It’s subjective, I’m probably old skool and not for me… think it’s all a party political decision, Sunak could easily of backed him and didn’t, that’s the real story. The story is that he has a track record of being a bully Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 3 minutes ago, tyldesley_white said: Its subjective in your eyes, Seems Mr. Tolley (who saw the evidence) as better eye sight. It’s called subjective. Tolley will be using a legal definition I’m looking at it solely from my years of experience in real life situations, so it’s no surprise we differ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 6 minutes ago, Winchester White said: You are just making stuff up, Raab and Sunak are known to be good friends and Raab publicly backed Sunak whe he went up against Truss. Sunak gave Braverman her job back after being sacked and she is of the right side of the Tories. It’s a different situation when it’s your deputy PM, I’ll guess that this is the tip of the iceberg, let’s see what else is released from Raab, especially his relationship with Sunak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyldesley_white Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 3 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: It’s called subjective. Tolley will be using a legal definition I’m looking at it solely from my years of experience in real life situations, so it’s no surprise we differ. So you've seen the evidence then ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 It would be interesting to read @MalcolmWtake on what’s happened, he’s closer to it than most of us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, tyldesley_white said: So you've seen the evidence then ? Only the key points in the report that I posted earlier in the thread. Edited April 22, 2023 by Mounts Kipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyldesley_white Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: Only the key points that I posted earlier in the thread. So its a NO then Here is the Key point, he resigned and its was accepted. Edited April 22, 2023 by tyldesley_white Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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