Politics

[Mounts Kipper]

3 minutes ago, kent_white said:

We've basically stagnated as a country since Cameron took office. Then wasted the best part of a decade fannying around with Brexit and cutting ourselves off from our largest trading partner - with no real vision about where to go thereafter. 

The country is worse in every conceivable way. How anybody can still be defending this utter shower is completely beyond me. 

I'd genuinely rather hand over control directly the the EU than put up with another decade of this utter shite.

Stop chatting shit. 

[Spider]

2 hours ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Stop chatting shit. 

We owe £2.5 Trillion 

Let’s party

[Sweep]

10 hours ago, Spider said:

We owe £2.5 Trillion 

Let’s party

USA have a much larger debt, so it's OK

[tomski]

10 hours ago, Spider said:

We owe £2.5 Trillion 

Let’s party

Fiscal

[Spider]

30 minutes ago, Sweep said:

USA have a much larger debt, so it's OK

Does that mean we no longer have one then?

Not that it matters anyway. Sir Kier is free to keep flashing the Mastercard when he gets in. It’s a world thing.

[BobyBrno]

9 minutes ago, Spider said:

Does that mean we no longer have one then?

Not that it matters anyway. Sir Kier is free to keep flashing the Mastercard when he gets in. It’s a world thing.

Just out of interest, have you only just realised that the UK has debt?

During lockdown, it was discussed widely on here about the consequences of the cost. People were happy to take the free money then. All countries have debt. Almost 20% of ours is down the COVID. Other countries was more some less. Your pension pot will be benefiting though.

[Spider]

26 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

Just out of interest, have you only just realised that the UK has debt?

During lockdown, it was discussed widely on here about the consequences of the cost. People were happy to take the free money then. All countries have debt. Almost 20% of ours is down the COVID. Other countries was more some less. Your pension pot will be benefiting though.

I do know about it, and I understand how the world works.

But the Tories said they were a party that reduced debt and managed the economy “properly”.

Another lie, to throw on the enormous bonfire of whoppers they’ve told for 12 years.

[BobyBrno]

4 minutes ago, Spider said:

I do know about it, and I understand how the world works.

But the Tories said they were a party that reduced debt and managed the economy “properly”.

Another lie, to throw on the enormous bonfire of whoppers they’ve told for 12 years.

Graph for you. Between 2008 to 2010 the debt jumped by about 40%. In came the Tories steady but slow increase in debt before it started to fall. Then suddenly…..

You can make of it what you will.

 

 

[Spider]

[BobyBrno]

15 minutes ago, Spider said:

That’s a bar chart, sooo 1970’s. Graphs are where it’s at as it’s much clearer.👍

[Sweep]

Balls to graphs, we want Venn Diagrams 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

Quite revealing chart.

Huge increase following the financial crash, and subsequent quantitative easing.

Not unique to this country neither.

Debts mounting everywhere. 

Then the pandemic and war with their own inputs. 

Can't keep borrowing and spending to such levels.

Whoever gets in isn't going to be wazzing the cash around.

[BobyBrno]

My graph is also as a percentage of gdp which is more relevant. BD gave a detailed analysis of QE. The BOE and other central banks seem to get off lightly when accusations are being thrown around.

Edited October 8, 2023 by BobyBrno

[Tonge moor green jacket]

15 hours ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Stop chatting shit. 

Aye.

Cutting ourselves off from our largest trading partner?

Bizarre that, as they still are!

[Spider]

3 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Aye.

Cutting ourselves off from our largest trading partner?

Bizarre that, as they still are!

The spend from the EU has dropped to virtually nothing at our place.

Losers

[Mounts Kipper]

6 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Aye.

Cutting ourselves off from our largest trading partner?

Bizarre that, as they still are!

We’ve not done a good job of cutting ourselves off from Europe.
 

https://tradingeconomics.com/united-kingdom/exports-by-country

[globaldiver]

[kent_white]

20 hours ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Stop chatting shit. 

I'm not. If genuinely rather be governed by the EU than this pile of retrograde tosspots. 

They're literally taking the country backwards and have for as long as they've been in office. 

I'd take a steady pair of hands at the helm over this shower. Even if it wasn't a pair of our own hands. 

Luckily - we'll be shot of the tossers soon and we can get back to some semblance of normality. 

[mickbrown]

24 minutes ago, globaldiver said:

Without context, that’s useless. 
 

Where? When? What’s she saying?

Edited October 8, 2023 by mickbrown

[kent_white]

5 hours ago, Mounts Kipper said:

We’ve not done a good job of cutting ourselves off from Europe.
 

https://tradingeconomics.com/united-kingdom/exports-by-country

The only reason that we're exporting anything like what we were is because of the weak pound. Hardly something to get excited over! 

[Not in Crawley]

Are we all ready for next week?

Waiting in the slips for any slip ups those who claim not to support the Conservative party but then seemingly defend every decision over the last 13 years because it makes young people and Hollywood actors moan, and women with a Northern accent seem to send them into a fit of pique or summert (oh and they're not Sheeple)

Then anyone else hoping for something a better than the last 13 years.

Biggest conference for the Labour Party in over a decade.

 

[Not in Crawley]

1 minute ago, mickbrown said:

Without context, that’s useless. 

Some people defending Hamas in London possibly? I know the maths wizz from countdown was sharing videos on twitter yesterday along those lines.

[frank_spencer]

16 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

Some people defending Hamas in London possibly? I know the maths wizz from countdown was sharing videos on twitter yesterday along those lines.

Or sticking up for the normal Palestinian folk whose lives are likely to become even more royalty fucked thanks to the actions of Hamas and the yank backed repercussions coming from Israel.

It's a fucking mess and those in charge on either side can't seem to fucking behave.

Edited October 8, 2023 by frank_spencer

[BobyBrno]

39 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

Are we all ready for next week?

Waiting in the slips for any slip ups those who claim not to support the Conservative party but then seemingly defend every decision over the last 13 years because it makes young people and Hollywood actors moan, and women with a Northern accent seem to send them into a fit of pique or summert (oh and they're not Sheeple)

Then anyone else hoping for something a better than the last 13 years.

Biggest conference for the Labour Party in over a decade.

 

We can criticise the Labour sorts without being Tories. Can’t we? 

[Not in Crawley]

21 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

We can criticise the Labour sorts without being Tories. Can’t we? 

Of course, BB, of course....Waiting in the slips for any slip ups those who claim not to support the Conservative party but then seemingly defend every decision over the last 13 years