Politics

[BobyBrno]

Just now, Not in Crawley said:

Of course, BB, of course....Waiting in the slips for any slip ups those who claim not to support the Conservative party but then seemingly defend every decision over the last 13 years

 

If I was looking to defend the Tories I’d never be off this forum. Personally, I just post economic truths. A bit rare these days. 

[Not in Crawley]

Just now, BobyBrno said:

If I was looking to defend the Tories I’d never be off this forum. Personally, I just post economic truths. A bit rare these days. 

It's the way he tells 'em...😁

[Mounts Kipper]

2 hours ago, kent_white said:

The only reason that we're exporting anything like what we were is because of the weak pound. Hardly something to get excited over! 

Chatting shit again. 

[globaldiver]

Apsana Begum MP

[mickbrown]

30 minutes ago, globaldiver said:

Apsana Begum MP

Ignored my last one but, again what’s the  context.
 

When, where?

 

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

18 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

Ignored my last one but, again what’s the  context.
 

When, where?

 

Yesterday afternoon, the Labour Party conference

[Sweep]

51 minutes ago, globaldiver said:

Apsana Begum MP

If her constituents don't like her doing that, they can vote her out next year

[BobyBrno]

54 minutes ago, globaldiver said:

Apsana Begum MP

It’s got off to a good start. Should be an interesting few days. 

[Winchester White]

Palestine is not Hamas and Hamas is not Palestine. 

Does that really need saying?

[Sweep]

2 minutes ago, Winchester White said:

Palestine is not Hamas and Hamas is not Palestine. 

Does that really need saying?

It seems so, for some

[BobyBrno]

Hamas has had control of Palestine since 2007. Anyone supporting Palestine are supporting Hamas. Anyone who cares about Palestine should totally condemn Hamas and all it stands for. There will never be peace with Hamas. Hamas does not represent Palestine, it represents Muslim extremism and the destruction of Israel. This really needs saying. 

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

8 minutes ago, Winchester White said:

Palestine is not Hamas and Hamas is not Palestine. 

Does that really need saying?

No, but an elected official opting not to offer any public condemnation of the indiscriminate murder, rape and kidnapping of Isreali citizens then appearing at an event hosted by the PSC - an organisation with, err.. a questionable perspective on both the conflict itself and this weekend's terrorist violence - the very same day the attacks occurred seems a little suspect

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

 

[BobyBrno]

The horseshoe of politics has never been as evident as it is now. Anyone interested should read about The Battle of Cable Street. 
Some ideological head spinning 😵‍💫 

[BobyBrno]

The futures bright, the futures Labour.

Just for NIC. I never disappoint 😅

 

[Spider]

And as shit as they are

Theyre still a thousand times better than the current lot.

Thats how fucking shite things have become.

 

[Farrelli]

1 hour ago, BobyBrno said:

The futures bright, the futures Labour.

Just for NIC. I never disappoint 😅

 

MP takes call at inappropriate moment. Great story.

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

24 minutes ago, Farrelli said:

MP takes call at inappropriate moment. Great story.

To be fair, it's quite refreshing to see a politician not behaving like a robot when speaking on camera

[kent_white]

13 hours ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Chatting shit again. 

Righto! It is of course because of our thriving business sector! 🙄

[kent_white]

10 hours ago, BobyBrno said:

The futures bright, the futures Labour.

Just for NIC. I never disappoint 😅

 

See I quite like that 😁

A normal woman who chats to her mum. But then again, I'm working class.

 

[kent_white]

11 hours ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

 

Jesus Christ! 🙄

[Mounts Kipper]

13 minutes ago, kent_white said:

Righto! It is of course because of our thriving business sector! 🙄

Which country in Europe are you comparing our economy with? 

[kent_white]

7 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Which country in Europe are you comparing our economy with? 

I'm not. I'm making the supposition that we would be exporting more and doing better as a country had we not made trading with our closest partners more difficult and spent the energy we wasted for the best part of a decade fannying around with Brexit on something more constructive.

And although that is now an alternate if preferable reality - it would be nice to think that the people who sold it to the country had at least some idea about how to turn it to our competitive advantage, which they clearly don't. 

The biggest act of traitorous self sabotage in my living memory. 

And as I've mentioned before. I was desperate to be proved wrong. And hoped against hope that there was a plan and that things would come good.  To give it a football analogy, Brexit is Dan Nlundulu. I hope he comes good too, but I think it's more likely he'll be an unmitigated disaster. 

I've seen literally nothing that would lead me too conclude that Brexit was anything than at best a monumental waste of time and effort and at worst economically damaging in a way that will take generations to repair. 

Again - happy to be proved wrong if you've got any good examples. I don't hate you or anything - we just disagree on this topic and always have done.

I want a strong, vibrant, innovative United Kingdom that we can all take collective pride in. One that is forward looking and not stuck resting on its colonial laurels and thinking it has a devine right to remain a leading power in the world. 

I think we're going backwards, and that sadly our relevance in the world is diminishing with each passing day. 

We've got a military that can't defend the island for more than a few days, a national health service that is on its arse, a political system that people no longer have confidence in (irrespective of what political side you find yourself on) and we can't even build a large infrastructure project that has been in the pipeline for decades, borrowing is through the roof and we are at the highest levels of taxation (direct and indirect) since the end of the second world war. 

Again - I don't think I'm being hubristic or over exaggerating. Those appear to be the facts. Austerity was a disaster and didn't work - so we lurched from that into pointlessly taking ourselves out of Europe and limiting our opportunities. Couple that with COVID and the war in Ukraine and we're not in a strong position to cope. 

That's my genuine take on the state of affairs. Be interested to hear yours. 

But just imagine that we'd spent the time we took on Brexit doing something useful, like fixing the NHS or the armed forces, or housing! 

[Farrelli]

5 minutes ago, kent_white said:

I'm not. I'm making the supposition that we would be exporting more and doing better as a country had we not made trading with our closest partners more difficult and spent the energy we wasted for the best part of a decade fannying around with Brexit on something more constructive.

And although that is now an alternate if preferable reality - it would be nice to think that the people who sold it to the country had at least some idea about how to turn it to our competitive advantage, which they clearly don't. 

The biggest act of traitorous self sabotage in my living memory. 

And as I've mentioned before. I was desperate to be proved wrong. And hoped against hope that there was a plan and that things would come good.  To give it a football analogy, Brexit is Dan Nlundulu. I hope he comes good too, but I think it's more likely he'll be an unmitigated disaster. 

I've seen literally nothing that would lead me too conclude that Brexit was anything than at best a monumental waste of time and effort and at worst economically damaging in a way that will take generations to repair. 

Again - happy to be proved wrong if you've got any good examples. I don't hate you or anything - we just disagree on this topic and always have done.

I want a strong, vibrant, innovative United Kingdom that we can all take collective pride in. One that is forward looking and not stuck resting on its colonial laurels and thinking it has a devine right to remain a leading power in the world. 

I think we're going backwards, and that sadly our relevance in the world is diminishing with each passing day. 

We've got a military that can't defend the island for more than a few days, a national health service that is on its arse, a political system that people no longer have confidence in (irrespective of what political side you find yourself on) and we can't even build a large infrastructure project that has been in the pipeline for decades, borrowing is through the roof and we are at the highest levels of taxation (direct and indirect) since the end of the second world war. 

Again - I don't think I'm being hubristic or over exaggerating. Those appear to be the facts. Austerity was a disaster and didn't work - so we lurched from that into pointlessly taking ourselves out of Europe and limiting our opportunities. Couple that with COVID and the war in Ukraine and we're not in a strong position to cope. 

That's my genuine take on the state of affairs. Be interested to hear yours. 

But just imagine that we'd spent the time we took on Brexit doing something useful, like fixing the NHS or the armed forces, or housing! 

Bang on👍

[deeane Koontz]

2 hours ago, kent_white said:

See I quite like that 😁

A normal woman who chats to her mum. But then again, I'm working class.

 

 

 Aye, I quite like her.  I'd definitely be more inclined to vote for her than Starmer anyhow.