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[royal white]

7 minutes ago, boltonboris said:

I don’t know the context behind the discussion, but at no point was there any reference to illegal immigrants in that clip 

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Edited July 22, 2025 by royal white

[DirtySanchez]

Just now, royal white said:

Nearly every major news outlet uses X, the person speaking in the video is Keir Starmer, the U.K. PM. He’s lying, again, about housing. 
 

But Fare dodging. 

Did you Google Jenrick? 

I think you misunderstood the fare dodging comment 

Understandable 

 

[royal white]

2 minutes ago, DirtySanchez said:

Did you Google Jenrick? 

I think you misunderstood the fare dodging comment 

Understandable 

 

No why would I. Here’s the same clip posted by other people. No doubt you will find another tangent to go off on. 
 

 

 

 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

On 21/07/2025 at 13:25, BobyBrno said:

I replied to you with an explanation from a reputable source. 

Borrowing up massively again.

Payments are sky rocketing.

Growth going the other way.

Where is the money going to come from to pay down the debt?

[DirtySanchez]

3 minutes ago, royal white said:

No why would I. Here’s the same clip posted by other people. No doubt you will find another tangent to go off on. 
 

 

 

 

He's as bent as a dog's back leg (you'd know if you bother to google it)

Which in my opinion makes anything he says a tad bollocks 

So it's not a tangent 

I can take a look at the others mentioning it 

[boltonboris]

16 minutes ago, royal white said:

No why would I. Here’s the same clip posted by other people. No doubt you will find another tangent to go off on. 
 

 

 

 

You’ve posted this 4 times now and all of them refer to illegal immigrants in their captions, yet none of the videos mention anything about illegal immigrants. Is this fake news? Where someone gets a clip of a video, changes the context and it spreads like wild fire? 

 

[royal white]

2 minutes ago, boltonboris said:

You’ve posted this 4 times now and all of them refer to illegal immigrants in their captions, yet none of the videos mention anything about illegal immigrants. Is this fake news? Where someone gets a clip of a video, changes the context and it spreads like wild fire? 

 

3 times, only 2 mention illegals the 3rd says asylum seekers. No need to lie. They’re discussing accommodation for asylum seekers. Hope that helps. 

Edited July 22, 2025 by royal white

[boltonboris]

Just now, royal white said:

3 times, only 2 mention illegals the 3rd says asylum seekers. They’re discussing accommodation for asylum seekers. Hope that helps. 

It does help. Thanks. 
 

I said earlier that I didn’t know the context as they only mentioned families. When was the meeting? Was the meeting specifically about accommodation for Asylum seekers?  Because also, Asylum seekers aren’t illegal immigrants. They’re here legally seeking asylum. 

[royal white]

1 minute ago, boltonboris said:

It does help. Thanks. 
 

I said earlier that I didn’t know the context as they only mentioned families. When was the meeting? Was the meeting specifically about accommodation for Asylum seekers?  Because also, Asylum seekers aren’t illegal immigrants. They’re here legally seeking asylum. 

Yesterday and no. 

[boltonboris]

3 minutes ago, royal white said:

Yesterday and no. 

Just seen a few snippets and a longer version. The full 2hr meeting is on YouTube. 
 

the bit the videos you posted came from, were from discussing the quality of social housing in the uk and the difficulties of families finding suitable housing. NOT migrants, immigrants or asylum seekers. 
 

just families in general. 

[royal white]

1 minute ago, boltonboris said:

Just seen a few snippets and a longer version. The full 2hr meeting is on YouTube. 
 

the bit the videos you posted came from, were from discussing the quality of social housing in the uk and the difficulties of families finding suitable housing. NOT migrants, immigrants or asylum seekers. 
 

just families in general. 

It was discussing both and how the government are taking away houses From local councils to give to Asylum seekers. 
 

The point which you seem to be missing is that Starmer says there’s lots of housing, there’s clearly not .

[boltonboris]

1 minute ago, royal white said:

It was discussing both and how the government are taking away houses From local councils to give to Asylum seekers. 
 

The point which you seem to be missing is that Starmer says there’s lots of housing, there’s clearly not .

That’s not the point you were making. You were making the point that he’s said there’s loads of houses for illegal immigrants. 
 

he said there was housing available for everyone. Whilst that’s probably wrong, and he’ll probably regret saying it, you and the people you’ve quoted are inferring that he only said there was housing available for illegal immigrants. Which is out of context  

[royal white]

1 minute ago, boltonboris said:

That’s not the point you were making. You were making the point that he’s said there’s loads of houses for illegal immigrants. 
 

he said there was housing available for everyone. Whilst that’s probably wrong, and he’ll probably regret saying it, you and the people you’ve quoted are inferring that he only said there was housing available for illegal immigrants. Which is out of context  

The point I was making was that he’s a lying clown, hence my Ant and Dec comment. I never once mentioned illegal immigrants. (Until you brought it up) 

Here’s another clip for you,

https://www.google.com/gasearch?q=starmer housing&source=sh/x/gs/m2/5#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:87b38e4a,vid:HOf3l_hX1x8,st:0

[boltonboris]

1 minute ago, royal white said:

The point I was making was that he’s a lying clown, hence my Ant and Dec comment. I never once mentioned illegal immigrants. (Until you brought it up) 

Here’s another clip for you,

https://www.google.com/gasearch?q=starmer housing&source=sh/x/gs/m2/5#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:87b38e4a,vid:HOf3l_hX1x8,st:0

You never brought it up? You linked multiple tweets saying that he’d said it about illegal immigrants and asylum seekers. If that isn’t your point, why use that and then stay on that theme?

[royal white]

1 minute ago, boltonboris said:

You never brought it up? You linked multiple tweets saying that he’d said it about illegal immigrants and asylum seekers. If that isn’t your point, why use that and then stay on that theme?

I don’t know how many times I’ve had to say it on here before, it’s the video not the tweeter. The point of the video was the Starmer is lying again, something he mentioned on here quite a bit lately. He said there’s plenty of housing, I said is he on a wind up. It’s not hard really. 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

Just now, royal white said:

I don’t know how many times I’ve had to say it on here before, it’s the video not the tweeter. The point of the video was the Starmer is lying again, something he mentioned on here quite a bit lately. He said there’s plenty of housing, I said is he on a wind up. It’s not hard really. 

If there was such a supply of houses, why aren't they veins filled by Britons on the waiting list?

Not sure he's helping Rayner with her brief there.

[royal white]

1 minute ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

If there was such a supply of houses, why aren't they veins filled by Britons on the waiting list?

Not sure he's helping Rayner with her brief there.

I’m sure she said there was plenty of housing as well. What on earth are they taking? It’s not normal to speak this much shite 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

2 minutes ago, royal white said:

I’m sure she said there was plenty of housing as well. What on earth are they taking? It’s not normal to speak this much shite 

Well that's simply daft.

They talk about building many thousands of homes, as we're so short, and now saying there are plenty to house migrants.

Just going about my daily work etc, and no matter who you speak to, the common theme is to be critical of the PM.

 

[Traf]

14 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Just going about my daily work etc, and no matter who you speak to, the common theme is to be critical of the PM.

Really?
The common theme of all your conversations at work are critical of Keir?

You might want to talk about something else.

[Casino]

3 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Borrowing up massively again.

Payments are sky rocketing.

Growth going the other way.

Where is the money going to come from to pay down the debt?

It isnt

[bolty58]

No doubt the 'my party' loyalists and numbnuts like Spider will be on defending this shortly.

https://www.ft.com/content/3a2171b3-7e6d-4d21-8134-bb70f3cf9d52

One of the biggest donors (if not the biggest) to the Labour Party.

As we all know really, they are the biggest fucking hypocrites around. Always have been and yet there will still be those stood in factory car parks listening to some faux militant cunt on a soapbox telling them 'we are all for you brothers. Please keep sending us your couple of quid a week and we'll fight the Tory scum for you' and decide to carry on even though what will happen is tens of millions will be squandered on massively over valued hotels and other white elephants so that the union bosses and some in 'my party' get their kickbacks from having their snouts in the trough.

Lowlife scumbags.

 

 

[Not in Crawley]

He was outed by the current Unite boss, who ordered the enquiry. Mclusky was always a bad egg for the Labour Party (and a key reason I left under Corbyn amongst other reason) 

Good to see sanity has returned, of course this is slightly too subtle a point for dingbats like Bolty who unconditionally defend anything (child deaths, sexual misconduct) if it is 'his side'

The beautiful irony of the above post from him.

[BobyBrno]

11 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

 

Where is the money going to come from to pay down the debt?

It isn’t.

Off to the cricket. See you all in 5 days 😉

 

 

Edited July 23, 2025 by BobyBrno

[Sweep]

12 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Well that's simply daft.

They talk about building many thousands of homes, as we're so short, and now saying there are plenty to house migrants.

Just going about my daily work etc, and no matter who you speak to, the common theme is to be critical of the PM.

 

I don't know too much about it, and I may have misheard, but somebody on the radio yesterday said there are plenty enough houses/homes available, they're just not necessarily in the right places (which sounds a bit daft) - I'm sure they said that there are something like 750K empty houses and around half of them have been empty for at least 6 months.

 

Now i wasn't listening too much, but I think the gist was that we could house everybody who needed housing, if they were happy to move. Probably bollocks, but I guess there is something in it. I know people (Mrs Sweeps relatives) who are waiting for a council house, but are only prepared to stay in the same town, they've turned down numerous properties over the years, as they'd have to move to a different town (for what it's worth, they're utter scum, and play the system all ways up anyway, so no way will they ever leave where they currently are)

[Dimron]

1 hour ago, Sweep said:

I don't know too much about it, and I may have misheard, but somebody on the radio yesterday said there are plenty enough houses/homes available, they're just not necessarily in the right places (which sounds a bit daft) - I'm sure they said that there are something like 750K empty houses and around half of them have been empty for at least 6 months.

 

Now i wasn't listening too much, but I think the gist was that we could house everybody who needed housing, if they were happy to move. Probably bollocks, but I guess there is something in it. I know people (Mrs Sweeps relatives) who are waiting for a council house, but are only prepared to stay in the same town, they've turned down numerous properties over the years, as they'd have to move to a different town (for what it's worth, they're utter scum, and play the system all ways up anyway, so no way will they ever leave where they currently are)

Around here the mass housing developers are taking advantage of the relaxations in planning and turning their land-banks into new housing, a lot of which doesn't appear to be selling. Won't help the homeless unless they can afford repayments on a £250k semi.