Dimron Posted October 24, 2025 Posted October 24, 2025 On 21/10/2025 at 23:15, Bertie said: Believe it or not I agree with you. I don’t think though it invalidates my post about the murky background behind Reform. The country is crying out for a strong leader who can not only “do the right thing” ….. but also has principles, morals and standards and is committed to public service. I’m still looking. Your strong leader aint going to be found in the Westminster elite.... they're all to self absorbed playing their internal power games and tossing out little snippets to the. hoi polloi by social media to demonstrate how "connected" they are. In my view, we need to move towards a "Deliberative Democracy", get rid of Westminster and decentralise. I struggle with links on my tablet but Wikipedia describes Deliberative Democracy if you're interested. Quote
royal white Posted October 24, 2025 Posted October 24, 2025 36 minutes ago, Dimron said: Your strong leader aint going to be found in the Westminster elite.... they're all to self absorbed playing their internal power games and tossing out little snippets to the. hoi polloi by social media to demonstrate how "connected" they are. In my view, we need to move towards a "Deliberative Democracy", get rid of Westminster and decentralise. I struggle with links on my tablet but Wikipedia describes Deliberative Democracy if you're interested. A Piers Morgan / Andrew Neil type character is required 😉 Quote
burnden Posted October 24, 2025 Posted October 24, 2025 Reform were expecting to romp home in the Caerphilly by election yesterday but came second to Plaid Cymru. Labour have held that seat for 100 years apparently. Quote
royal white Posted October 24, 2025 Posted October 24, 2025 Has someone hacked his account? Fkinell 😂😂 Quote
Ani Posted October 24, 2025 Posted October 24, 2025 China crisis…..Let’s see what Kemi says now. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn095n9qd87o Quote
London Wanderer Posted October 24, 2025 Posted October 24, 2025 3 hours ago, burnden said: Reform were expecting to romp home in the Caerphilly by election yesterday but came second to Plaid Cymru. Labour have held that seat for 100 years apparently. Lots of tactical votes to keep Reform out as well. Wouldn’t be surprised to see a lot of that come the next election. Or even a left coalition against them. Similar things have worked across Europe. They’re also making a shit show of themselves in the Kent council. But if the left fragments then Reform should get a majority. Which I reckon will happen. It’s astonishing whats happening to Labour & the Tories. Quote
kent_white Posted October 24, 2025 Posted October 24, 2025 15 minutes ago, London Wanderer said: Lots of tactical votes to keep Reform out as well. Wouldn’t be surprised to see a lot of that come the next election. Or even a left coalition against them. Similar things have worked across Europe. They’re also making a shit show of themselves in the Kent council. But if the left fragments then Reform should get a majority. Which I reckon will happen. It’s astonishing whats happening to Labour & the Tories. I wonder if we saw 'peak Reform' at about the time of the flag protest? I still think they will do well at the next election. I just hope not as well as some of the predictions. Next time around could be one of the most interesting and meaningful races for a long, long time. Especially with a resurgence of support for the Greens. Quote
Cheese Posted October 24, 2025 Posted October 24, 2025 (edited) 9 minutes ago, kent_white said: I wonder if we saw 'peak Reform' at about the time of the flag protest? I still think they will do well at the next election. I just hope not as well as some of the predictions. Next time around could be one of the most interesting and meaningful races for a long, long time. Especially with a resurgence of support for the Greens. There are probably 3 more summers until the next General Election. Flag shaggers tend to be fair-weather "protesters"... Edited October 24, 2025 by Cheese Quote
Ani Posted October 24, 2025 Posted October 24, 2025 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/czdr3npe33do.amp whatever you think of flags, £500 per flag seems rather extravagant. Quote
Cheese Posted October 24, 2025 Posted October 24, 2025 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Ani said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/czdr3npe33do.amp whatever you think of flags, £500 per flag seems rather extravagant. Not if it includes the pole, and full-time emplyment of an immigrant to regularly clean up all the jizz at the base. Edited October 24, 2025 by Cheese Quote
Cheese Posted October 24, 2025 Posted October 24, 2025 Starmer proven correct again. He really is a boring bastard who just happens to know what he's talking about. GET HIM OUT! WE WANT DAILY CHAOS AGAIN! Quote
Dimron Posted October 24, 2025 Posted October 24, 2025 38 minutes ago, Ani said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/czdr3npe33do.amp whatever you think of flags, £500 per flag seems rather extravagant. This is the same Reform Council who recently banned the press from their meetings Quote
bolty58 Posted October 24, 2025 Posted October 24, 2025 15 hours ago, Zico said: Your lot don't understand the concept Fuck off - we invented it. Quote
bolty58 Posted October 24, 2025 Posted October 24, 2025 10 hours ago, burnden said: Reform were expecting to romp home in the Caerphilly by election yesterday but came second to Plaid Cymru. Labour have held that seat for 100 years apparently. The key thing there is where Labour came. If the alarm bells still aren't ringing yet then they are even more incompetent than I already believed them to be. Reforms share of the vote exploded - tactical voting was all that stopped them. It won't next year when PR comes in. Quote
bolty58 Posted October 24, 2025 Posted October 24, 2025 6 hours ago, kent_white said: I wonder if we saw 'peak Reform' at about the time of the flag protest? I still think they will do well at the next election. I just hope not as well as some of the predictions. Next time around could be one of the most interesting and meaningful races for a long, long time. Especially with a resurgence of support for the Greens. If that happens with the track record of that spacktard of a leader then the UK really is fucked. Quote
kent_white Posted October 24, 2025 Posted October 24, 2025 1 minute ago, bolty58 said: If that happens with the track record of that spacktard of a leader then the UK really is fucked. I don't know much about him to be honest. But he seems to be getting lots of air time over here. He speaks well - but I've not actually heard him talk about policy yet. Anyway - he's Jewish I found out today - so you're no longer able to criticise him about anything or you'll be labelled an anti-semite 😉 Quote
mickbrown Posted October 24, 2025 Posted October 24, 2025 6 minutes ago, kent_white said: I don't know much about him to be honest. But he seems to be getting lots of air time over here. He speaks well - but I've not actually heard him talk about policy yet. Anyway - he's Jewish I found out today - so you're no longer able to criticise him about anything or you'll be labelled an anti-semite 😉 And he supports Villa. I might have made that up Quote
bolty58 Posted October 24, 2025 Posted October 24, 2025 13 minutes ago, kent_white said: I don't know much about him to be honest. But he seems to be getting lots of air time over here. He speaks well - but I've not actually heard him talk about policy yet. Anyway - he's Jewish I found out today - so you're no longer able to criticise him about anything or you'll be labelled an anti-semite 😉 I don't care. Anyone who tries to convince flatdicks he can make their tits bigger with hypnotherapy should be sectioned. As I think about it, I should shut the fuck up. A vote for the Greens is one less for Labour. Vote Green, you know it makes sense. Quote
bolty58 Posted October 24, 2025 Posted October 24, 2025 9 minutes ago, mickbrown said: And he supports Villa. I might have made that up I hope he's been banned from that game too? Apparently it's a safety issue. Quote
kent_white Posted October 24, 2025 Posted October 24, 2025 4 minutes ago, bolty58 said: I don't care. Anyone who tries to convince flatdicks he can make their tits bigger with hypnotherapy should be sectioned. Is that true? Fucking hell 🤣 Although perhaps loads of women with big knockers walking around the place might be the very thing that we can all finally unite around. Make Boobies Great Again! Quote
Not in Crawley Posted October 24, 2025 Posted October 24, 2025 6 hours ago, kent_white said: I wonder if we saw 'peak Reform' at about the time of the flag protest? I still think they will do well at the next election. I just hope not as well as some of the predictions. Next time around could be one of the most interesting and meaningful races for a long, long time. Especially with a resurgence of support for the Greens. What we are seeing is the breakdown of two party politics. Reform will only reach so far. But also, the Welsh vote is always left of centre historically. The next national election will be a watershed, the start of a new way this country has to govern. Reform won't be the biggest party bumy any stretch- thats a little dramatic, but the big beasts of party politics will both get bloody noses. The Tories got 2% yesterday- and yes its Wales - but thats not national party numbers. Quote
royal white Posted October 24, 2025 Posted October 24, 2025 36 minutes ago, kent_white said: I don't know much about him to be honest. But he seems to be getting lots of air time over here. He speaks well - but I've not actually heard him talk about policy yet. Anyway - he's Jewish I found out today - so you're no longer able to criticise him about anything or you'll be labelled an anti-semite 😉 He’s also a flag shagger Quote
London Wanderer Posted October 24, 2025 Posted October 24, 2025 6 minutes ago, royal white said: He’s also a flag shagger Brilliant Quote
athywhite1958 Posted October 24, 2025 Posted October 24, 2025 8 hours ago, London Wanderer said: It’s astonishing whats happening to Labour & the Tories. I think it's because they have had heir own way for far too long Quote
Spider Posted October 24, 2025 Posted October 24, 2025 2 hours ago, bolty58 said: If that happens with the track record of that spacktard of a leader then the UK really is fucked. “The UK” you’re slipping. ”we” you’re a “we” remember? Quote
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