What is that "mate" of mine Sadiq Khan trying to achieve ?

 

You lost you demented little cretin, get over it and concentrate on your job you terrorist sympathiser.

For @bolty58

Bit of balance for you! 

Just saying what we already know!

Do you buy it, and if so, tell us how it takes the piss.

Policy paper

Restoring Order and Control: A statement on the government’s asylum and returns policy

Published 17 November 2025

 

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/asylum-and-returns-policy-statement/restoring-order-and-control-a-statement-on-the-governments-asylum-and-returns-policy

 

 

1 hour ago, burnden said:

Policy paper

Restoring Order and Control: A statement on the government’s asylum and returns policy

Published 17 November 2025

 

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/asylum-and-returns-policy-statement/restoring-order-and-control-a-statement-on-the-governments-asylum-and-returns-policy

 

 

Boooooooo

Bloody labour

Tackling the asylum issue. Listening to the electorate and dealing with stuff boringly. But slowly.

They should be busy doing communism and insisting that rich people are thrown into industrial mincing machines or something like that shouldn’t they?

37 minutes ago, Spider said:

Bloody labour

Tackling the asylum issue. Listening to the electorate and dealing with stuff boringly. But slowly.

They should be busy doing communism and insisting that rich people are thrown into industrial mincing machines or something like that shouldn’t they?

Wait till the mansion tax clobbers NiC and Kent next week.

37 minutes ago, Spider said:

Bloody labour

Tackling the asylum issue. Listening to the electorate and dealing with stuff boringly. But slowly.

They should be busy doing communism and insisting that rich people are thrown into industrial mincing machines or something like that shouldn’t they?

It’s all words for now. But I have to admit it does seem promising & looks like it’ll lead to action.

 They’re even suggesting something today that TMJ said they wouldn’t be willing to do. 
 

Definitely pissing off some in their party
 

Time will tell whether it’s enough to hit the Reform vote. Think they’re not quite sure what to say to be honest. Which can only be a good thing 

2 hours ago, burnden said:

Policy paper

Restoring Order and Control: A statement on the government’s asylum and returns policy

Published 17 November 2025

 

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/asylum-and-returns-policy-statement/restoring-order-and-control-a-statement-on-the-governments-asylum-and-returns-policy

 

 

sounds spot on

now go do it

33 minutes ago, green genie said:

Wait till the mansion tax clobbers NiC and Kent next week.

Eh? 

2 hours ago, burnden said:

Policy paper

Restoring Order and Control: A statement on the government’s asylum and returns policy

Published 17 November 2025

 

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/asylum-and-returns-policy-statement/restoring-order-and-control-a-statement-on-the-governments-asylum-and-returns-policy

 

 

Step in the right direction.

Hope it happens.

 

Almost impossible. 

Doesn't look like she will get the backing of her own mps.

 

2 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Almost impossible. 

Doesn't look like she will get the backing of her own mps.

 

How many are voting against?

Just now, Spider said:

How many are voting against?

If they do they're like Turkeys voting for Christmas.

 

10 minutes ago, gonzo said:

If they do they're like Turkeys voting for Christmas.

 

The Tories and reform will look like they’re happy with the situation staying as it is if they vote against it.

 

48 minutes ago, gonzo said:

If they do they're like Turkeys voting for Christmas.

 

They would argue that there are elements of it that no Labour Govt should consider. 
 

I do not agree but can see their point. I think the point the dissenting Labour MPs miss is that the current system is broken and in no way helping genuine Asylum Seekers so it needs rebuilding. The details of how the safe routes will work and things like assessing their wealth will work.

It was funny how angry the Green woman got when the HS said they talk the talk but object to planning changes to build asylum property in their constituency. 

Also it looked like dress down day in the HOC today so of the women were right scruffy twats. 
 

 

 

Edited November 17, 2025Nov 17 by Ani

8 hours ago, kent_white said:

For @bolty58

Bit of balance for you! 

Noticed the photo first. Pass.

 

Not a peep from our antipodean octogenarian about the plans.

 

“Speaking in the House of Commons, Mahmood said: "If we fail to deal with this crisis, we will draw more people down a path that starts with anger and ends in hatred."

Under the plans, refugee status will become temporary, guaranteed housing support for asylum seekers will end and new capped "safe and legal routes" into the UK will be created.”

 Hard to disagree with any of that

 let’s see what happens next

3 hours ago, kent_white said:

Eh? 

The press making out everyone in SE will be hit by budget “mansion tax” . Presumably your house is valued more than £2M threshold being suggested?

37 minutes ago, green genie said:

The press making out everyone in SE will be hit by budget “mansion tax” . Presumably your house is valued more than £2M threshold being suggested?

There was also a suggestion that they could significantly increase council tax for bands G and H, which would hit more people, myself included (albeit by a lower amount). 

6 hours ago, Jol_BWFC said:

There was also a suggestion that they could significantly increase council tax for bands G and H, which would hit more people, myself included (albeit by a lower amount). 

You do realise the bands are set on house value in 1991?

You are Lord Smithills (and I claim my £5) if you had a house in Bolton worth £160k back then.

47 minutes ago, green genie said:

You do realise the bands are set on house value in 1991?

You are Lord Smithills (and I claim my £5) if you had a house in Bolton worth £160k back then.

Yes, I live in London, rather than Bolton.

Edited November 18, 2025Nov 18 by Jol_BWFC

9 hours ago, green genie said:

The press making out everyone in SE will be hit by budget “mansion tax” . Presumably your house is valued more than £2M threshold being suggested?

Oh I'm with you now. 

I'm back up in Bolton these days - so I live in a northern hovel and am therefore exempt as my house is only worth 6p 😁

13 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Almost impossible. 

Doesn't look like she will get the backing of her own mps.

 

Would she walk across the House if that happened?

1 hour ago, Dimron said:

Would she walk across the House if that happened?

Has anyone said how many MP’s are rebelling?

The proposals seem to have been met with muted approval in general.