Ani Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Sweep said: Aye, it was announced yesterday, they're fucked. Apparently the UK figures to be released next week are supposedly a bit shit as well, hope they're not, otherwise the "Remainer" bunch will be blaming it all on Brexit - when I believe there is actually a real global problem at play To be fair the Brexit lot will blame it on the Remainers too. As you say global economies are a bigger factor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted February 1, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted February 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Mounts Kipper said: We will see. Nothing is set in stone, this is a negation, remember we are leaving the EU and there are no set precedents. Well yes things are being set in stone. That’s the whole point of this massive clusterfuck of a deal that’s being sorted. this deal will set in stone our close alignment with the EU rules. Something that was central to your reasons for us wanting to leave. all this does is leave a level of power with the Eu that you don’t want. ”we will see” seems to be you stock answer whenever a reasonable and solid point is made that you don’t like mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Spider said: Well yes things are being set in stone. That’s the whole point of this massive clusterfuck of a deal that’s being sorted. this deal will set in stone our close alignment with the EU rules. Something that was central to your reasons for us wanting to leave. all this does is leave a level of power with the Eu that you don’t want. ”we will see” seems to be you stock answer whenever a reasonable and solid point is made that you don’t like mate. It’s not set in stone yet. If we can’t do other trade deals then it won’t get through parliament. Don’t you think and ST should drop your hysteria until it’s all sorted. Edited February 1, 2019 by Mounts Kipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted February 1, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted February 1, 2019 News from the front line samsung - you may have heard of them - have moved a lot of jobs to Amsterdam this month. Admittedly it’s only a few hundred but plans are afoot to move more. instead of planning to increase and invest, their view is that the UK is now simply a place to sell to at higher prices than before. They don’t think we’ll be manufacturing our own TVs and air conditioning units anytime soon so after Brexit will be ripe for the picking. ypu won’t read about this, or the similar situation at LG, since they are not making a big song and dance about it. but it is happening. Big business doesn’t wait for politicians. Big business doesn’t have to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 25 minutes ago, Spider said: Big business doesn’t wait for politicians. Big business doesn’t have to. Generally, Big Business owns politicians Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salford Trotter Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 32 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: It’s not set in stone yet. If we can’t do other trade deals then it won’t get through parliament. Don’t you think and ST should drop your hysteria until it’s all sorted. It is why so many MPs said that May's deal is worse than staying in the EU, a rule taker and not a rule maker. They had to vote for it because there was an increasing realisation that nothing else was really possible and if they didn't they risked losing control of the process with the Cooper amendment. The ERG voted for it because it heightens the possiblity of a No Deal Brexit. So on one hand we have a deal worse than staying in the EU and on the other hand a deal that takes us into unchartered terrority, what a mess and not what you voted for Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 40 minutes ago, Salford Trotter said: It is why so many MPs said that May's deal is worse than staying in the EU, a rule taker and not a rule maker. They had to vote for it because there was an increasing realisation that nothing else was really possible and if they didn't they risked losing control of the process with the Cooper amendment. The ERG voted for it because it heightens the possiblity of a No Deal Brexit. So on one hand we have a deal worse than staying in the EU and on the other hand a deal that takes us into unchartered terrority, what a mess and not what you voted for Hang on a minute the trade deal not negotiated yet. Better we wait and see what the situation is when that’s done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salford Trotter Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 6 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: Hang on a minute the trade deal not negotiated yet. Better we wait and see what the situation is when that’s done. As you have been so keen to point out the WA sets the parameters for the trade deal, the ECJ and the Common Rule Book will have been agreed and therefore not up for renegotiation. You are quite right the hard bit has yet to come so there is still the possibility of No Deal at the end of the transition period Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted February 1, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted February 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, Salford Trotter said: As you have been so keen to point out the WA sets the parameters for the trade deal, the ECJ and the Common Rule Book will have been agreed and therefore not up for renegotiation. You are quite right the hard bit has yet to come so there is still the possibility of No Deal at the end of the transition period You've not got a part time job negotiating for the EU have you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 7 minutes ago, Salford Trotter said: As you have been so keen to point out the WA sets the parameters for the trade deal, the ECJ and the Common Rule Book will have been agreed and therefore not up for renegotiation. You are quite right the hard bit has yet to come so there is still the possibility of No Deal at the end of the transition period TM states we can diverge from ECJ and make our own deals so I’ll take her view over your view. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salford Trotter Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: TM states we can diverge from ECJ and make our own deals so I’ll take her view over your view. The ECJ jurisdiction in disputes over the EU law is sacrosanct (not sure what you mean when you say diverging from the ECJ) but she is right we can diverge from the common rulebook in agreeing trade deals but whatever we agree would still have be within those common rules or what's the point of agreeing it in the first place so its a moot point in reality. The only area where we can diverge completely is on Services and this is all part of the smoke and mirrors approach May has taken, you don't get the full picture until you dig into the detail. Is this what you voted for? Edited February 1, 2019 by Salford Trotter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted February 1, 2019 Author Share Posted February 1, 2019 Interesting that prominent German economics folk are warning the EU to be very careful over their handling of Brexit. In the Telegraph today....some dicks may mock the rag,but the quotes are directly from senior German economics experts. Javold mein remainers. Lets check the EU shall we ? Riots every weekend in France, Belgium etc Unprecedented levels of terror attacks in Europe Unoredecented levels of rape attacks in Sweden,Finland etc......Finland are very concerned....check their stats and quotes from the government recently Unprecedented levels of grooming gangs in Britain Italy in recession Germany nearing recession More than a handful of countries poised to conduct their own Brexit once we go EUROPE BASICALLY ISN’T BIG ENOUGH OR RICH ENOUGH TO HOST MILLIONS OF AFRICANS PLUS DISPLACED REFUGEES AND ECONOMIC MIGRANTS. Isn't the EU shithot ? No, it’s just a shit doomed failing project and certain appeasers on here will still just bleat about the backstop etc,which Barnier already said last Wednesday the EU would have to sort out. Certain folk on here really need to wake up and wipe the spunk and sleep off their eyes. We have made the right choice in leaving. Thank you, have a lovely weekend one and all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted February 1, 2019 Moderators Share Posted February 1, 2019 I'm happy to wait for my reply until Monday, but how does brexit affect grooming gangs in the uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted February 1, 2019 Author Share Posted February 1, 2019 26 minutes ago, Casino said: I'm happy to wait for my reply until Monday, but how does brexit affect grooming gangs in the uk Border issue ? Not rocket science is it ? Here, I’ll ask you a question my Dutch Detective.....in fact, I’ll ask all the remainers .....what’s your thoughts on the Japanese Ambassador’s comments on sky news today re the recent trade deal they have signed recently with the EU and how easy they’ll replace it to sign one with the UK in the event of a WTO Brexit ? I’ll happily wait a week of Mondays for your usual shite one lined reply. Over to you McEnroe, you little tantrum thrower Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted February 1, 2019 Moderators Share Posted February 1, 2019 Missed the point by a long way, I think And let's stick to the point, no need to deflect by introducing the sushi eaters I thought grooming gangs were Pakistani origin How does brexit affect that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Winchester White Posted February 1, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted February 1, 2019 To be fair Miami, it isn't trade deals with the likes of Japan and China that are worrying business at the moment. It is trade with the EU that concerns them as we are so intrinsically tied with the EU after 40 years of union. It takes time, money and effort to untangle that and find anywhere near an equal footing to replace the lost trade now we face before us leaving our largest import and export market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted February 1, 2019 Author Share Posted February 1, 2019 11 minutes ago, Casino said: Missed the point by a long way, I think And let's stick to the point, no need to deflect by introducing the sushi eaters I thought grooming gangs were Pakistani origin How does brexit affect that Border issues and grooming gangs ... Like I said earlier.....it’s not rocket sciences is it ? Anway....who mentioned Pakistanis ? I certainly didn’t but it’s obvious it the issue we’re facing. As for diversionary deflection, you lot are the experts on that......care to comment on my question ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted February 1, 2019 Author Share Posted February 1, 2019 11 minutes ago, Winchester White said: To be fair Miami, it isn't trade deals with the likes of Japan and China that are worrying business at the moment. It is trade with the EU that concerns them as we are so intrinsically tied with the EU after 40 years of union. It takes time, money and effort to untangle that and find anywhere near an equal footing to replace the lost trade now we face before us leaving our largest import and export market. Aye, I know that Winchester, but I only brought it up as it was topical and many of the bleaters on here have quoted the Japanese trade deal before with great delight. They’re quiet now the Japs have clarified it isn’t a problem and the bleaters are trying to deflect from the issue...Casino being the prize example as always. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted February 1, 2019 Author Share Posted February 1, 2019 20 minutes ago, Casino said: Missed the point by a long way, I think And let's stick to the point, no need to deflect by introducing the sushi eaters I thought grooming gangs were Pakistani origin How does brexit affect that Talking of missing a point.....how many points did you selectively miss on my original post ? Care to answer those ? Must be at least ten to choose from. What’s up ? Too many to choose from which are proven facts ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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