Politics

[Sweep]

7 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said:

See for example, Dr David Nicholl - who contributed to Yellowhammer and says that government stockpiling body bags isn't even part of yellowhammer. And that yellowhammer is not a worst case scenario. 

He's been backed by all senior medics and professional bodies. But its ok Rees-Mogg wanted to question his professional knowledge because he didn't say what Brexiteers want. 

I'm sick of it. People that know stuff should be listened to. And the Brexit lies and propaganda which are so clear and obvious to anyone with half a brain should be called out. 

How about this - if Brexit does lead to deaths due to shortages of medicines or food we charge those who claim its all "project fear" with manslaughter. About time we made people take responsibility for lies. 

JRM has today been forced to issue an apology for what he said about Dr David Nicholl, and quite rightly.

 

I'm not sure we'll have masses of issues if we leave with no deal (and I don't think we will be leaving with no deal anyway) - if a few people did happen to die though, isn't that just "tough shit" and as a nation we'll get over it pretty quickly?

[Salford Trotter]

2 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

As usual your mixing me up with someone else, unless it’s your memory thats letting you down. 

😂 So what part of that have I got wrong? The piss up? 

[Salford Trotter]

3 minutes ago, Sweep said:

JRM has today been forced to issue an apology for what he said about Dr David Nicholl, and quite rightly.

 

I'm not sure we'll have masses of issues if we leave with no deal (and I don't think we will be leaving with no deal anyway) - if a few people did happen to die though, isn't that just "tough shit" and as a nation we'll get over it pretty quickly?

Just another pack of lies that was attempting to hoodwink the electorate into suggesting yellowhammer was never a realistic scenario. In fact as scary as yellowhammer is, it is not the worst case scenario and that is Johnson's own government saying this. 

[Sweep]

3 minutes ago, Salford Trotter said:

 I may have been mistaken that you said that Johnson was the right man for the job

Isn't that Bolty? - who thinks that Boris has "something of Churchill" about him..............although he did think that TM was the next Margaret Thatcher as well.

 

although, maybe Johnson can still turn it around, so that he doesn't have the possibility of looking like the worst PM ever......he might be struggling a bit though 

[Mounts Kipper]

4 minutes ago, Salford Trotter said:

😂 So what part of that have I got wrong? The piss up? 

I say nearly all of it. Possibly the only the exception leaving on March 31st. 

Edited September 6, 2019 by Mounts Kipper

[mickbrown]

7 minutes ago, Sweep said:

Indeed, I suspect he really knows that. Younger people are generally leaving Facebook, and now spend more time on Snapchat, Insta and Twitter, you don't need to be a social media expert to know that.

I go on Facebook, and my nephews (16yrs & 18yrs old) often mock me for being in the dark ages.

Did CA have an influence on who voted for what? - I'm fucked if I know, apparently they did, but I'm not really that well up on it. Facebook were fined $5B for what they were doing with data, and that directly involved CA, so clearly they were, at some point in time, up to no good.

 

Not only that, the only age groups that voted leave (50-64 and 65+), are the only age groups with increased Facebook users.

 

[mickbrown]

The demographics of leave are quite interesting. 

In a nutshell it’s old, thick people. 😀

[Salford Trotter]

5 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

I say nearly all of it. Possibly the only the exception leaving on March 31st. 

So you didn't laud Johnson as the right man for the job? You didn't say we would leave at the end of October? Anyway what is your prediction to what happens next? 

[Casino]

1 hour ago, Moon boy said:

No shit Sherlock

Can see why you now support a Referendum, good luck with that

are we still leaving on the 31st,  sonny?

[Salford Trotter]

3 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

The demographics of leave are quite interesting. 

In a nutshell it’s old, thick people. 😀

It'll quite different if we have another referendum apparently there are now 1.2m more younger voters than older voters than at the 2016 referendum. That may make a difference

[Mounts Kipper]

1 minute ago, Salford Trotter said:

So you didn't laud Johnson as the right man for the job? You didn't say we would leave at the end of October? Anyway what is your prediction to what happens next? 

No and no. I think they’ll be an election and I think the Tories will win it, could possibly see Johnson not asking for an extension, and I hope he won’t. 

[Salford Trotter]

7 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

No and no. I think they’ll be an election and I think the Tories will win it, could possibly see Johnson not asking for an extension, and I hope he won’t. 

Who will ask for it then? 

[Mounts Kipper]

3 minutes ago, Salford Trotter said:

Who will ask for it then? 

Who knows, but can’t see it going on like this for much longer. 

[peelyfeet]

13 minutes ago, Sweep said:

Indeed, I suspect he really knows that. Younger people are generally leaving Facebook, and now spend more time on Snapchat, Insta and Twitter, you don't need to be a social media expert to know that.

I go on Facebook, and my nephews (16yrs & 18yrs old) often mock me for being in the dark ages.

Did CA have an influence on who voted for what? - I'm fucked if I know, apparently they did, but I'm not really that well up on it. Facebook were fined $5B for what they were doing with data, and that directly involved CA, so clearly they were, at some point in time, up to no good.

 

CA was founded by Steve Bannon. Steve Bannon made his first fortune as an investment banker for Goldman Sachs (those of the 2007 financial crisis fame), he was vice president when he left. He later co-founded Bretibart news, a far right media outlet in US. Some of it's published content is considered (by conservatives and liberals alike) to be racist, misogynistic, xenophobic propoganda, with content supporting neo-Nazi and white supremacist ideals.  He was also chief executive of Donald Trumps election campaign, and became his chief strategist when Trump won. Bannon was responsible for the creation of the US legislation that prevented Muslims from entering the US for 90 days at the start of Trumps presidency,  Time magazine considered him to be the 2nd most powerful person in the world in 2017. He was a supporter of the EDL and BNP, now favours Nigel Farrage.  He's pro Putin, and supports most far right parties in Europe. 

Nice CV 

[Casino]

1 minute ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Who knows, but can’t see it going on like this for much longer. 

it will go on until johnson resigns, imo

the massive whopper

[Salford Trotter]

2 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Who knows, but can’t see it going on like this for much longer. 

If he gets a deal through parliament before 19th then he won't have to but if he doesn't then he either has to resign as PM and his deputy asks for the extension or he man's up and does it himself

[miamiwhite]

Thoughts on this ?

 

 

[Mounts Kipper]

2 minutes ago, Salford Trotter said:

If he gets a deal through parliament before 19th then he won't have to but if he doesn't then he either has to resign as PM and his deputy asks for the extension or he man's up and does it himself

I really hope he does not ask for an extension nor his deputy. 

[Sweep]

5 minutes ago, miamiwhite said:

Thoughts on this ?

 

 

Cameron lied, he said that we would be out 2 years after we triggered A50 and then we would have to operate under WTO, yet we're still in two and a half years later. 

[Sweep]

6 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

I really hope he does not ask for an extension nor his deputy. 

I know you hope that.....but you do know that he (or his deputy) will actually ask for an extension don't you?

[Mounts Kipper]

3 minutes ago, Sweep said:

I know you hope that.....but you do know that he (or his deputy) will actually ask for an extension don't you?

I’d think so. But there might me a few twists and turns yet. 

[Escobarp]

1 hour ago, bwfcfan5 said:

See for example, Dr David Nicholl - who contributed to Yellowhammer and says that government stockpiling body bags isn't even part of yellowhammer. And that yellowhammer is not a worst case scenario. 

He's been backed by all senior medics and professional bodies. But its ok Rees-Mogg wanted to question his professional knowledge because he didn't say what Brexiteers want. 

I'm sick of it. People that know stuff should be listened to. And the Brexit lies and propaganda which are so clear and obvious to anyone with half a brain should be called out. 

How about this - if Brexit does lead to deaths due to shortages of medicines or food we charge those who claim its all "project fear" with manslaughter. About time we made people take responsibility for lies. 

You’re worse than her indoors with the dramatization.  Enjoy your weekend. It could be our last after all 😳

[Escobarp]

19 minutes ago, miamiwhite said:

Thoughts on this ?

 

 

I’ve told you before stop with these facts. They are not welcome on here. Shame on you #miamiout

[miamiwhite]

16 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

I’ve told you before stop with these facts. They are not welcome on here. Shame on you #miamiout

Exactly mate, they’d rather call Cameron a liar than face the facts.

[Salford Trotter]

35 minutes ago, Sweep said:

Cameron lied, he said that we would be out 2 years after we triggered A50 and then we would have to operate under WTO, yet we're still in two and a half years later. 

If we are down to individual TV interviews to make a point about how No Deal was at the front of the Leave campaign and everyone was aware of it then it just shows how invisible it was to the vast majority of people. If you have shown me a poster campaign, the side of buses Ads and TV ads plastered all over the media then I would accept the point. Remember Johnson said we would still be in the Single Market after leaving the EU, the two messages are just not compatible. 

Edited September 6, 2019 by Salford Trotter