Ani Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 5 minutes ago, miamiwhite said: Exactly mate, they’d rather call Cameron a liar than face the facts. The fact is that every leading member of Leave said we would definitely have a deal and to leave without one would be madness. That is not in dispute is it ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted September 6, 2019 Author Share Posted September 6, 2019 4 minutes ago, Salford Trotter said: If we are down to individual TV interviews to make a point about how No Deal was at the front of the Leave campaign and everyone was aware of it then it just shows how invisible it was to the vast majority of people. If you have shown me a poster campaign, the side of buses Ads and TV ads plastered all over the media then I would accept the point. Remember Johnson said we would still be in the Single Market after leaving the EU, the two messages are just not compatible. Remind me who the PM was at the time of the interview.......... The interview wasn’t just a casual chat from the tap room in The Crescent in your city. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted September 6, 2019 Author Share Posted September 6, 2019 3 minutes ago, Ani said: The fact is that every leading member of Leave said we would definitely have a deal and to leave without one would be madness. That is not in dispute is it ? Diversion from you....scroll back to earlier today and those who said what Cameron said was never mentioned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted September 6, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted September 6, 2019 I’d rather call cameron a girly swot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 Just now, miamiwhite said: Diversion from you....scroll back to earlier today and those who said what Cameron said was never mentioned. Nope I have not read the whole thread. Diversion = fact. What I do not understand is why Leavers are letting No Deal delay leaving. Everyone has said no deal is a bad idea so why flog that horse ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jol_BWFC Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 2 hours ago, Mounts Kipper said: We’ve got all the benefits even with TM WA, so how was the leave campaign a lie? Most of the the promises made by the brexiteers are already agreed in that agreement, shortages of medicines are lies, shortage of food are lies, we won’t starve and folk won’t die for shortage of medicines, the government have stepped up preparations to leave and that should have been started under Theresa Mays premiership. That first paragraph is staggering. It shows a total misunderstanding of the WA and what we actually “have”. I can’t take what you post on this topic seriously when you say something like that What do you think the WA does? What legally binding agreement do you think we currently actually have in place for our relationship with the EU once the translation period ends (under TM’s deal)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jol_BWFC Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Salford Trotter said: I could've sworn you said numerous times that the EU would bow under pressure and give us a fantastic deal we'd leave in March then October. I may have been mistaken but didn't you say that Johnson was the right man for the job and that there is no way we are staying in after 31st October, in fact, I remember you organising a piss up with others on here on 1st November😂 to celebrate us leaving. I have no doubt we are leaving the EU at some point, whether that is with a deal or not we don't know yet but when that day comes you will not be remembered as the Brexit Oracle😂😂. Let's face it anybody can be right guessing the time twice in a day. And also that we would not be under the jurisdiction of EU courts. And that we wouldn’t have to abide by EU laws. Those have disappeared from the prediction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salford Trotter Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 10 minutes ago, miamiwhite said: Remind me who the PM was at the time of the interview.......... The interview wasn’t just a casual chat from the tap room in The Crescent in your city. Show me the No Deal bus and poster campaign Johnson et al constantly referred to? Oh and Raab... I rest my case m'lud https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/uk-politics-49165836 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 On 17/08/2019 at 14:33, Moon boy said: The good ship ‘Brexit’ is on the last leg of her journey and is set fair to arrive safely on October 31st After going round and round in ‘the Doldrums’ for three years under the previous clueless skipper the ship now has a new Captain Boris and a willing crew, after crossing choppy waters and coming under attack from Pirates/Ship wreckers/Anarchists she now has a full wind in her sails and enough weapons at her disposal to repel any interference from ne’er do wells The combined enemy fleet, the Corbynistas, the flip/flop Lib Dem’s, and other assorted traitors don’t have the fire power or the wherewithal to stop a triumphal homecoming, there will scenes of jubilation throughout the land when the journey is completed, it may well become a public holiday, god bless her and all who sail in her. For Queen and Country, hip pip Well this is all going as predicted 😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted September 6, 2019 Author Share Posted September 6, 2019 1 minute ago, Salford Trotter said: Show me the No Deal bus and poster campaign Johnson et al constantly referred to? Oh and Raab... I rest my case m'lud https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/uk-politics-49165836 It must be jet lag from you, as you clearly can’t or won’t answer my question as to who the PM was at the time of that interview. Pathetic mate, you’re better than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted September 6, 2019 Author Share Posted September 6, 2019 11 minutes ago, Ani said: Nope I have not read the whole thread. Diversion = fact. What I do not understand is why Leavers are letting No Deal delay leaving. Everyone has said no deal is a bad idea so why flog that horse ? Read the thread then mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salford Trotter Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 3 minutes ago, miamiwhite said: It must be jet lag from you, as you clearly can’t or won’t answer my question as to who the PM was at the time of that interview. Pathetic mate, you’re better than that I didn't avoid the question I just don't see the relevance of it. If it makes you happy, David Cameron😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 3 minutes ago, miamiwhite said: It must be jet lag from you, as you clearly can’t or won’t answer my question as to who the PM was at the time of that interview. Do you not know? It was David Cameron mate. A simple google search would have told you that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youri McAnespie Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 On 09/08/2019 at 09:48, Mounts Kipper said: I reckon' all us Brexiteers; myself, PaulHanley, Escobarp, miami, TMGJ, Boltondiver et al should have a big piss-up on November 1st to celebrate the UK finallt leaving the EU. 😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youri McAnespie Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 (edited) There in black and white and complete with a trademark Mounts' m0ngy mispelling too... 😁 I can't believe people are still arsed about this, I'm still on Cloud 9 from Tuesday night... Couldn't give a shit about this now... Edited September 6, 2019 by Youri McAnespie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darwen_white Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Casino said: are we still leaving on the 31st, sonny? Yes. Parliament should have no mandate whatsoever to stop us from leaving next month. The referendum was for the public to decide - and we have done. It's not our fault a Remain Parliament is keeping us in against our wishes. They've thwarted us as every turn and it will go on forever. Let's be honest, they don't want to stop No Deal, they just want to stop Brexit. Johnson will advise the Queen of this and she'll refuse Royal consent of that treacherous, made up Bill. Either that or Johnson just refuses to ask for an extension. Either way, we're out next month. 🎉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted September 6, 2019 Author Share Posted September 6, 2019 20 minutes ago, Salford Trotter said: I didn't avoid the question I just don't see the relevance of it. If it makes you happy, David Cameron😂 Again sir, scroll back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted September 6, 2019 Author Share Posted September 6, 2019 21 minutes ago, Sweep said: Do you not know? It was David Cameron mate. A simple google search would have told you that Thanks pal, I’d have never known that being a fick raycist rufer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 (edited) 44 minutes ago, Jol_BWFC said: That first paragraph is staggering. It shows a total misunderstanding of the WA and what we actually “have”. I can’t take what you post on this topic seriously when you say something like that What do you think the WA does? What legally binding agreement do you think we currently actually have in place for our relationship with the EU once the translation period ends (under TM’s deal)? Jesus here we go again! The WA isn’t legally binding with regards our future relationship but it does set out what both parties want to achieve and have agreed to work towards. Edited September 6, 2019 by Mounts Kipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salford Trotter Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 (edited) 20 minutes ago, miamiwhite said: Again sir, scroll back. I've seen the video, you and others mentioned it lots of time as project fear but not any longer, so you no longer class that as Project Fear? .. Care to comment on Raab hardly ever referring to No Deal in the referendum debates, as did Gove and Johnson telling us categorically we'd be in the Single Market. What about Dr Fox telling us the EU negotiation would be a piece of piss. What about Cummings being interviewed and enlightening us all by saying the "lies won the referendum" that i quoted way back in the thread. I could go on with more examples, now I know you are desperate to answer these points too🤔😅 Edited September 6, 2019 by Salford Trotter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon boy Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Casino said: are we still leaving on the 31st, sonny? ‘Sonny’, think it’s time your carer reduces your time on th’internet or go back to crayoning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Youri McAnespie said: There in black and white and complete with a trademark Mounts' m0ngy mispelling too... 😁 I can't believe people are still arsed about this, I'm still on Cloud 9 from Tuesday night... Couldn't give a shit about this now... No idea what you’ve done there but that post ain’t mine. Edited September 6, 2019 by Mounts Kipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salford Trotter Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 24 minutes ago, darwen_white said: Yes. Parliament should have no mandate whatsoever to stop us from leaving next month. The referendum was for the public to decide - and we have done. It's not our fault a Remain Parliament is keeping us in against our wishes. They've thwarted us as every turn and it will go on forever. Let's be honest, they don't want to stop No Deal, they just want to stop Brexit. Johnson will advise the Queen of this and she'll refuse Royal consent of that treacherous, made up Bill. Either that or Johnson just refuses to ask for an extension. Either way, we're out next month. 🎉 The bill doesn't need royal assent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jol_BWFC Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 4 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: Jesus here we go again! I know that the WA isn’t legally binding with regards our future relationship but it does set out what both parties want to achieve and have agreed to work towards. Does it? Is that what the WA sets out? Maybe you should read these. https://www.britishchambers.org.uk/page/brexit/brexit-faqs https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-46318565 If you accept that the deal (the PD, NOT the WA that you keep referring to) isn't legally binding and sets out aspirations only, then you have to accept that under TM’s deal we don’t have any concrete benefits. Which is why the backstop is fundamental to the EU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 5 minutes ago, Salford Trotter said: The bill doesn't need royal assent. According to this it does Could a no-deal Brexit still happen on 31 October? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49612757 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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