Sweep Posted September 5, 2019 Posted September 5, 2019 3 hours ago, Moon boy said: However, early next week the Government, on its own, can put forward a vote to end this Parliament and call a GE they will need a majority of ‘one’ There might be a slight flaw there..... no matter what happens, the HoC will make sure we don't leave at the end of October, I think pretty much everybody realises this now (and most sane people knew this as soon as Bozzer got the gig and started spouting how we would definitely leave then) . Its getting kicked into January 2020.....even then we'll no doubt still be going round in circles. A week or two ago Mounts was saying how Boris would "piss" an election, that's now looking less and less likely as each day goes by, I don't doubt they'll be the largest single party, but I'm struggling to see how they can expect to get a large enough majority to push through whatever plan they come up with. Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted September 5, 2019 Posted September 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, Sweep said: There might be a slight flaw there..... no matter what happens, the HoC will make sure we don't leave at the end of October, I think pretty much everybody realises this now (and most sane people knew this as soon as Bozzer got the gig and started spouting how we would definitely leave then) . Its getting kicked into January 2020.....even then we'll no doubt still be going round in circles. A week or two ago Mounts was saying how Boris would "piss" an election, that's now looking less and less likely as each day goes by, I don't doubt they'll be the largest single party, but I'm struggling to see how they can expect to get a large enough majority to push through whatever plan they come up with. A stronger, more acceptable deal, would surely get passed. Iirc, the last vote lost by around 40. A swing of 20+ would do it. A more determined Tory party, backed by BP and DUP would only need 1 vote to overturn the current, no deal decision. I think this was behind kinnock's thought processes in looking to bring back the current WA. Irrespective of a delay of a few weeks; it's not inconceivable that a general election would yield a working majority. It might not, and labour could get in, perhaps with support elsewhere. But does Corbyn have the courage to essentially overturn the referendum result? Quote
Spider Posted September 5, 2019 Posted September 5, 2019 34 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: A stronger, more acceptable deal, would surely get passed. Iirc, the last vote lost by around 40. A swing of 20+ would do it. A more determined Tory party, backed by BP and DUP would only need 1 vote to overturn the current, no deal decision. I think this was behind kinnock's thought processes in looking to bring back the current WA. Irrespective of a delay of a few weeks; it's not inconceivable that a general election would yield a working majority. It might not, and labour could get in, perhaps with support elsewhere. But does Corbyn have the courage to essentially overturn the referendum result? Corbyn, like all previous Labour leaders, is at the beck and call of the unions. They are, and will always be, a backward, self-serving, hate-filled shitpile that stops anything getting done. So no, he hasn't. Quote
Salford Trotter Posted September 5, 2019 Posted September 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Sweep said: There might be a slight flaw there..... no matter what happens, the HoC will make sure we don't leave at the end of October, I think pretty much everybody realises this now (and most sane people knew this as soon as Bozzer got the gig and started spouting how we would definitely leave then) . Its getting kicked into January 2020.....even then we'll no doubt still be going round in circles. A week or two ago Mounts was saying how Boris would "piss" an election, that's now looking less and less likely as each day goes by, I don't doubt they'll be the largest single party, but I'm struggling to see how they can expect to get a large enough majority to push through whatever plan they come up with. I wouldn't give too much credence to what Mounts thinks, I don't think he has forecast one thing correctly so far, has he? 😂 Though I am always happy to doff my cap should he do so. Quote
miamiwhite Posted September 5, 2019 Author Posted September 5, 2019 I’m surprised not a single person on here has mentioned The Civil Contingencies Act, 2004. Will pursue your thoughts on what could be a master stroke if played correctly. Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted September 5, 2019 Posted September 5, 2019 2 hours ago, Spider said: Corbyn, like all previous Labour leaders, is at the beck and call of the unions. They are, and will always be, a backward, self-serving, hate-filled shitpile that stops anything getting done. So no, he hasn't. Aye. So the cycle continues if he gets in. Fantastic. Quote
Sweep Posted September 5, 2019 Posted September 5, 2019 19 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Aye. So the cycle continues if he gets in. Fantastic. I'm not sure he'll have enough to get in, unless he's propped up by both the SNP and the Lib Dems Quote
Guest Posted September 5, 2019 Posted September 5, 2019 It’s disgusting behaviour from the remainer MPs in Parliament Quote
Sweep Posted September 5, 2019 Posted September 5, 2019 (edited) 13 minutes ago, boltondiver said: It’s disgusting behaviour from the remainer MPs in Parliament The "leavers" have been just as bad, if they'd voted for TM's deal then we'd have been out by now. None of them have covered themselves in glory Edited September 5, 2019 by Sweep Quote
Escobarp Posted September 5, 2019 Posted September 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, Sweep said: The "leavers" have been just as bad, if they'd voted for TM's deal then we'd have been out by now. None of them have covered themselves in glory Is the correct answer really. I think everyone sees the thankless task TM faced now with this shower of shit we need out and then we need a new parliamentary system. Because this one is no longer fit for purpose. Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted September 5, 2019 Posted September 5, 2019 22 minutes ago, Sweep said: I'm not sure he'll have enough to get in, unless he's propped up by both the SNP and the Lib Dems Indeed, that's what I was hinting at: could he overturn the result in order to get swinsons backing and have a crack at the top job? Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted September 5, 2019 Posted September 5, 2019 1 minute ago, Escobarp said: Is the correct answer really. I think everyone sees the thankless task TM faced now with this shower of shit we need out and then we need a new parliamentary system. Because this one is no longer fit for purpose. Be reet once we've gone. They'll all go and lick their wounds for a while, then back to business. Corbyn will be fucked off, fuck knows who the next Tory leader will be. Quote
Cheese Posted September 5, 2019 Posted September 5, 2019 On 08/10/2018 at 13:03, Cheese said: Get ready for full nationwide enforcement of the Civil Contingencies Act in 6 months boys. It's going to be a right old laugh. Re-posted without comment. Quote
Spider Posted September 5, 2019 Posted September 5, 2019 23 minutes ago, Cheese said: Re-posted without comment. Yeah but you said by April this year. So, you know. Quote
miamiwhite Posted September 5, 2019 Author Posted September 5, 2019 30 minutes ago, Cheese said: Re-posted without comment. I thought you’d fucked off fella ? Fair okay for your comment, though in my defence I had blocked you then for being an utterly depressing toxic cunt.... Is it right the UK has the power to veto any extension ? Mr Barclay certainly thinks so. Quote
Winchester White Posted September 5, 2019 Posted September 5, 2019 (edited) It is a shit show because a non binary outcome was given a binary question by a fucking idiot in Cameron, that is the reason we are in this shit show. If you want change in a parliamentary democracy you get a majority in Parliament and enact it. Cameron fucked it all up. Edited September 5, 2019 by Winchester White Quote
mickbrown Posted September 5, 2019 Posted September 5, 2019 4 hours ago, Spider said: Corbyn, like all previous Labour leaders, is at the beck and call of the unions. They are, and will always be, a backward, self-serving, hate-filled shitpile that stops anything getting done. So no, he hasn't. Without unions you wouldn't have a weekend or paid annual leave. Just saying. Quote
Spider Posted September 5, 2019 Posted September 5, 2019 Just now, mickbrown said: Without unions you wouldn't have a weekend or paid annual leave. Just saying. Without unions I’d have a 3 day weekend and a gold house Quote
mickbrown Posted September 5, 2019 Posted September 5, 2019 Or sick leave, the fucking bastards Quote
miamiwhite Posted September 5, 2019 Author Posted September 5, 2019 Personally, the most ironic thing is how Labour have tried with Momentum to rig democracy in Westminster, but refused a General Election. Their hypocrisy is mind blowing Quote
mickbrown Posted September 5, 2019 Posted September 5, 2019 19 minutes ago, miamiwhite said: Personally, the most ironic thing is how Labour have tried with Momentum to rig democracy in Westminster, but refused a General Election. Their hypocrisy is mind blowing Would Labour win a GE? Quote
miamiwhite Posted September 5, 2019 Author Posted September 5, 2019 4 minutes ago, mickbrown said: Would Labour win a GE? They couldn’t win a night with Big E Quote
mickbrown Posted September 5, 2019 Posted September 5, 2019 1 minute ago, miamiwhite said: They couldn’t win a night with Big E Well there you go then. Why the fuck would they want an election then? Quote
Casino Posted September 5, 2019 Posted September 5, 2019 It's most amusing see bozo the ultimate flat track bully squirming Quote
Rudy Posted September 5, 2019 Posted September 5, 2019 45 minutes ago, Casino said: It's most amusing see bozo the ultimate flat track bully squirming And spluttering like the owd drunk fella off the fast show Quote
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