Wanderers 0-2 Millwall

[gonzo]

This looks shitter than it was in real life.

 

https://twitter.com/jack_bwfc14/status/983816007440650240?s=12

[Ani]

M62 junction shut. Later m62 one lane open standing traffic and then dense fog on way home.

 

Fell apart today after their goal.

 

Slowest back 4 ever. Taylor wheater and Beevers look scared when anyone attacked. Need to change for Saturday.

 

Pratley must have committed a million fouls tonight. Drop him deeper with the other dirty one.

 

Ameobi was a decent outlet but ended up central.

 

We were shit tonight and Saturday.

 

Dreading Barnsley.

[leigh white]

We need the luck now like we did in the 81/82 season, just scraping over the line.

[Lostock Whites]

Everything about us is just so frigging slow, and unskilled.

You’d never see us counter attack like that.

 

Don’t know why people believe Pratley and Henry are such amazing footballers, all they do is pass backwards and foul.

There is no creativity in the middle, no one with the guts to attack the opposition.

 

And Parkinson can piss off as well, was constantly moaning and shouting at a supporter behind him at WSL. Get on with your job you tool.

[roybarker]

Our whole team lacks pace and technical ability.

Has anybody else noticed we literally have no attacking midfielders, or anyone in the middle that can bring the ball forward.

 

Derik, Pratley, Henry, Kirchhoff, Karacan, are all defensive midfielders, and aren’t capable of bringing it forward.

 

No wonder we have barely scored goals this season, no creativity.

Totally Agree

[Biggish Dave]

Can’t really add to what’s been said. Our lack of pace at the back is frightening, needs a clean sweep of last nights back 4 whatever division we are in next season.

 

Midfield creativity is non existent and we never look a threat up front.

 

Noone was at least 1 bright spark and 100% better than Buckley for effort.

 

PP got it horribly wrong playing Taylor against that winger. Beevers needs dropping, neither Dervite nor Burke can make any more errors surely.

 

Our lack of confidence after going a goal down beggars belief.

[madthatter]

No other bugger won. This feels like a win.

 

Glass half full.

 

Aye.  Nothing positive about performances it seems but had we won and the others won we'd be no better off.

 

That's the best I can do.

 

Going to be bedlam when we beat Barnsley  

[Roger_Dubuis]

Dear Bolton Wanderers management, coaching staff  and players

 

Adam Le Fondre is 5 foot fucking 9.

 

Regards

 

MB

After last night's blank Le Fondre is still on 5 goals and 0 goal assists for the season.I would say the biggest single problem we currently have is that we are trying to compete in Div 2 with a 3rd Division striker leading the line.and there's nothing better than him on our books

[Morizio]

Started the season shit and finishing it shit. We were better than we were against Birmingham but still shit.

 

Some players know they won’t be here next season, they’re not going to be 100% committed if they are going to be out of contract and seeking new clubs next season.

 

If we do this, we will be limping over the line. Massive game on Saturday and I don’t think these players have the guts or character to do it and the manager is back to being clueless and non motivational like the start of the season.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

Thinking about Saturday I would go with Little in front of Flannagan and Robinson on the other side playing in front of Taylor can't really change the centre backs , play Henry and Pratley as centre mids and try Alf and Walker up top!

Agree. These two, even as full backs have provided the most consistent width. They can also defend and therefore support if the like of pratley went forward in support of the front players.

Who the front players are, well perm from vela,alf, and Sammi and Clough. Perhaps it's time two try two up top and see if they can link together.

[birch-chorley]

After last night's blank Le Fondre is still on 5 goals and 0 goal assists for the season.I would say the biggest single problem we currently have is that we are trying to compete in Div 2 with a 3rd Division striker leading the line.and there's nothing better than him on our books

To be fair to him, it’s not a case of missing bags of chances

 

He has grafted his arse off up top alone, regularly having to go out wide to win the ball

 

It’s our build up play that’s letting us down, we just aren’t creating enough chances

 

For me our defenders and defensive midfielders need to carry the ball a bit further rather than always looking for an easy pass sideways or long ball, otherwise we just end up playing in front of the opposition and make it easy for them

Edited April 11, 2018 by birch-chorley

[gonzo]

To be fair to him, it’s not a case of missing bags of chances

 

He has grafted his arse off up top alone, regularly having to go out wide to win the ball

 

It’s our build up play that’s letting us down, we just aren’t creating enough chances

 

For me our defenders and defensive midfielders need to carry the ball a bit further rather than always looking for an easy pass sideways or long ball, otherwise we just end up playing in front of the opposition and make it easy for them

Bang on.

 

And that's where it comes down to players hiding.

 

Certain players don't want the all and can't wait to get rid of it.

 

Those throw ins late in the first half summed it up. Only Alf and sammy wanted it. Derick was actually hiding behind the referee.

 

Their bottle has gone.

[birch-chorley]

Derick is shit scared of making a mistake

 

Which means he hides a lot and is nervous when he does get near the ball

 

In the first half he fucked up big time then pretended to be injured to try make excuses for his mistake. ALF could see straight through it and told him to get back in position

 

The lad needs dropping, offers nothing whatsoever, even defensively he’s not doing a great deal apart from being another white shirt

[barrycowdrill]

i'd love to hear from someone who feels that 2nd half approach (or even from when we went a goal down) wasnt instructed?

 

same shitty story of recent games. first 15 - 20 minutes. not really any complaints. tried to get the ball down. had one or two half chances which arent taken. concede then the plan reverts back to long diagonals.

 

until we conceded our two wingers were the best players on the park. Ameobi had their RB on toast. whatever the message was at HT it certainly wasnt "keep playing how we were before the goal" wingers were swapped over and the ball went Alniwick - their CB / keeper. therefore our 2 most prominent players in the 1st half were now out of the game.

 

Noone then gets dragged because he hasnt had a touch in 20 minutes. We've then got 2 strikers and 2 wingers on the pitch and it still goes Alnwick - their CB / Keeper

 

say what you want but that once again, comes from Parkinson. if it isnt why the fuck is he not on the touchline signalling to get the ball down? i watched him for a good 10-15 minutes and he did nothing!

 

people suggest he is willing to change things and yes he is, one game its 3-5-2, then next 4-1-4-1 then 4-4-2. Burke is in for a couple then goes missing. Karacan is out for 4, back for 2 then nowhere to be seen i could go on and on. sorry but that doesnt strike me as decisions that are made to affect a game. theyre more of a 'i still havent got a clue how i shoe horn this lot in to my long ball tactics' approach 

 

because i can bet a pound to a pile of shit the teams in and around us arent making 3,4 or five changes a game and switching formations every week!

 

not good enough in any way shape of form

[Guest]

To be fair to him, it’s not a case of missing bags of chances

 

He has grafted his arse off up top alone, regularly having to go out wide to win the ball

 

It’s our build up play that’s letting us down, we just aren’t creating enough chances

 

For me our defenders and defensive midfielders need to carry the ball a bit further rather than always looking for an easy pass sideways or long ball, otherwise we just end up playing in front of the opposition and make it easy for them

ALF needs a big lad to play off. Or better supply. Either way we don’t have the players to support him properly. So he’s ineffective.

[gonzo]

ALF needs a big lad to play off. Or better supply. Either way we don’t have the players to support him properly. So he’s ineffective.

Alf had a big lad to play off but Parkinson decided leave him on the bench.

 

Also it's not 1993. Alf works off the shoulder. Same as most other poachers of his ilk. Shame he has spend most games with his back to goal chasing lost causes and trying to tackle full backs 45 yards from goal.

[birch-chorley]

ALF needs a big lad to play off. Or better supply. Either way we don’t have the players to support him properly. So he’s ineffective.

We seemed to start yesterday hoofing it in the direction of Ameobi, Pratley got himself higher up the field to support Ameobi with the long balls

 

I think the plan was to play off them two, it did all right for 25 minutes but then it all went to cat shit after we conceded

[Guest]

Alf had a big lad to play off but Parkinson decided leave him on the bench.

 

Also it's not 1993. Alf works off the shoulder. Same as most other poachers of his ilk. Shame he has spend most games with his back to goal chasing lost causes and trying to tackle full backs 45 yards from goal.

 

Sorry but look at Millwall's equivalent. Full of pace, turned defenders, was a real threat in behind - and he was working off knock downs and forward lumps too. He's streets ahead of ALF in terms of being a handful for the defenders. But then he has a big lad up there winning the knock downs and doing the dirty work. ALF works hard, but he's no threat really. Especially when clean through on goal he makes a mess of it.

Edited April 11, 2018 by bwfcfan5

[gonzo]

Sorry but look at Millwall's equivalent. Full of pace, turned defenders, was a real threat in behind - and he was working off knock downs and forward lumps too. He's streets ahead of ALF in terms of being a handful for the defenders. But then he has a big lad up there winning the knock downs and doing the dirty work. ALF works hard, but he's no threat really. Especially when clean through on goal he makes a mess of it.

He one chance of note.

 

You'd just argue with the bastard cat.

[Guest]

He one chance of note.

 

You'd just argue with the bastard cat.

 

What's there to argue about? It isn't working. ALF is trying hard but he doesn't offer enough threat to the defence as a lone striker, neither does he get enough supply. Not sure anyone can argue with those two things. 

[barrycowdrill]

What's there to argue about? It isn't working. ALF is trying hard but he doesn't offer enough threat to the defence as a lone striker, neither does he get enough supply. Not sure anyone can argue with those two things. 

 

ive honestly no idea what the solution is then because if PP does insist on playing this way in order to get 2 strikers on the park weve either got to have a 4 man midfield which is a frightening thought or go 3 at the back which has shown time & again at this level gets absolutely torn to pieces

[Eddie]

I know there’s problems all over the pitch but I just can’t see why he’s playing those 2 full backs over the other 2. With no creativity at all in the midfield 3 we could have at least used the wings with more conviction - you can’t just chuck it to Ameobi and Noone on their own and expect them to beat 2 players and get a good cross in. Add to that the fact that Taylor runs in quicksand and Flanagan is just generally shite it would have made us a lot better defensively too I can’t see what he’s thinking. It was like Leeds all over again watching Taylor get embarrassed by their winger.

 

Beevers is league 1 - how Burke is the one to get dropped I’ll never know, at least he can put his foot on the ball and has some pace about him.

 

A few have already mentioned it but Derik played a game of hide and seek all night. You can’t play in than midfield 2 and not show for the ball, there were big areas of space in the 1st half when the centre backs had the ball and he could have stepped into it and taken it off them but he’s not interested - I’d have Karacan in there alongside Henry for Barnsley, he’s more of a footballer than Derik and Vela and will run round just as much.

 

Ameobi and Noone started well but looked like they lost interest in trying to do everything themselves. Pratley ran a lot and adds more of a presence further up the pitch but needs to get up and around ALF more.

 

For Barnsley I’d go

 

Little Wheater Burke Robinson

Henry Karacan

Ameobi Pratley Noone

ALF

 

The instruction has to be to get the ball wide, get it to the full backs as soon as you can and work it down the wings, ALF might not be the biggest but his movement is good enough to make space and get himself on the end of things in the box, Pratleys got to make sure that he’s making those late runs to join in and get on the end of stuff too. Long ball at some points is inevitable but it’s got to be seen as the last resort when we can’t work it wide - at that point ALF can cause problems but we need to do more to win second balls.

 

I’d stick hall on the bench if for nothing more than giving the crowd a lift - there seems to be a general consensus that the other options are pointless so why not give him a go, the lads scoring goals to be fair.

 

It’s mental that we’ve lost 4 in a row and it’s still in our hands but somethings got to change for us to take advantage (and I don’t mean suddenly turning into total football).

[Guest]

ive honestly no idea what the solution is then because if PP does insist on playing this way in order to get 2 strikers on the park weve either got to have a 4 man midfield which is a frightening thought or go 3 at the back which has shown time & again at this level gets absolutely torn to pieces

Well that’s the trouble. We were reliant on having someone who could play up front and lead the line. Without that we don’t really have a solution that’s been obvious since January. Perhaps we should put Ameobi up top and have Le Fondre buzzing round him?

[Mounts Kipper]

Alf had a big lad to play off but Parkinson decided leave him on the bench.

 

Also it's not 1993. Alf works off the shoulder. Same as most other poachers of his ilk. Shame he has spend most games with his back to goal chasing lost causes and trying to tackle full backs 45 yards from goal.

Alfs working his socks off but he’s not a player who has the pace to stretch defenders or the physical power to unsettle defenders therefore he’s relying on quality ball into the box, last night Noone supplied nothing down the right and after bright first half Ameobi went off the boil and with no creativity from anywhere else our goose was cooked. Saturday I think we have to risk 3-5-2 play the ball on the ground and go for the win, another 4-5-1 selection and we most likely won’t score.

[Ratwhite]

Alf played well.

 

Thats it..