What we thinking ?

 

Parky out or give him next season?

 

I'm not convinced. Just can't see how he will progress us. With or without funds.

 

Anyone for the country bumpkin Holloway?

 

Don't like the bloke but he's certainly a better manager than parky.

well it really is a simple game. Yes cardiff did go up. Without blowing anyone away which shows what can be achieved without going to the extreme style of football you think im pleading for

 

as would I but sadly with our current Plan A and no Plan B or C i dont see it 

 

But Cardiff had better and more expensive players than us. It shows what can be achieved with a good manager and a good set of players. 

 

Like Barnsley fans are saying "see what happens when you have a solid manager like Parkinson, their budget was the same as ours..."

 

 

See what I mean?

Entertaining football is not all about the Pep way, as long as we put a decent shift in for 90 minutes then I will be entertained, the majority of last season we didn't see that and for me that's down to the manager, getting the keeper to lump it forward at every opportunity is not playing football, sometimes its necessary and I get that but not for 90 fucking minutes and again that's down to the manager, Parky needs a plan B & C which he doesn't seem to have.

Football is moving on and it's leaving the old school managers behind and we currently have 1 of those types running the first team

 

That's just bollocks in my opinion. 

 

I never once thought this team isn't trying.

 

People mistake playing poorly with players not arsed/putting a shift in to often

That's just bollocks in my opinion.

 

I never once thought this team isn't trying.

 

People mistake playing poorly with players not arsed/putting a shift in to often

That's just bollocks in my opinion.

They didn't try very hard at Burton

I never once thought this team isn't trying.

 

People mistake playing poorly with players not arsed/putting a shift in to often

But Cardiff had better and more expensive players than us. It shows what can be achieved with a good manager and a good set of players. 

 

Like Barnsley fans are saying "see what happens when you have a solid manager like Parkinson, their budget was the same as ours..."

 

 

See what I mean?

 

again, i havent said he wasnt solid. and what they perceive him to be from the outside doesnt always reveal the full picture does it?

 

much like when we got him and Bradford were giving it the old "oh enjoy the hoofball" etc etc. We all thought, well thats bollocks..its only now we see the full picture for ourselves 

 

Im pretty sure if Barnsley did have him and they stayed up they would be delighted. As we are. But also criticising how he got them playing....

Edited May 15, 20188 yr by barrycowdrill

again, i havent said he wasnt solid. and what they perceive him to be from the outside doesnt always reveal the full picture does it?

 

much like when we got him and Bradford were giving it the old "oh enjoy the hoofball" etc etc. We all thought, well thats bollocks..its only now we see the full picture for ourselves 

 

Im pretty sure if Barnsley did have him and they stayed up they would be delighted. As we are. But also criticising how he got them playing....

 

It was bollocks. How are Bradford enjoying themselves now? Parky was great for them, and since they lost him and the squad he built broke up they've gone backwards. And certainly they're not happy. 

 

Results are what matter. And our results in the circumstances are exceptional. I'd say those on the outside have a better judge of what Parky is than you, who seems to be entirely unrealistic about expectation given our circumstances. 

 

Bit like Bradford fans.....

It was bollocks. How are Bradford enjoying themselves now? Parky was great for them, and since they lost him and the squad he built broke up they've gone backwards. And certainly they're not happy. 

 

Results are what matter. And our results in the circumstances are exceptional. I'd say those on the outside have a better judge of what Parky is than you, who seems to be entirely unrealistic about expectation given our circumstances. 

 

Bit like Bradford fans.....

 

i dont give a fuck how Bradford are now im talking about their perception of him which after watching his side for 2 years is absolutely bang on.

 

you keep harping on about how fantastic the fella is, you crack on with that belief. i will continue to judge him based on what i see, which is quite a balanced view:

 

solid, done a good job. but limited. 

 

you pile in to every debate on here as though your giving this balanced objective view. its all bollocks. the view is shrouded by this constant pro PP opinion and he can do no wrong. drains the life out of me, much more than your mates football does.

I'll second the above. Well said

i dont give a fuck how Bradford are now im talking about their perception of him which after watching his side for 2 years is absolutely bang on.

 

you keep harping on about how fantastic the fella is, you crack on with that belief. i will continue to judge him based on what i see, which is quite a balanced view:

 

solid, done a good job. but limited. 

 

you pile in to every debate on here as though your giving this balanced objective view. its all bollocks. the view is shrouded by this constant pro PP opinion and he can do no wrong. drains the life out of me, much more than your mates football does.

Because you keep trying to position the outcome as being entirely down to the quality of the manager without factoring in what was a good or bad result.

 

Like Everton fans wanting Allardyce out.....

 

Lets see what happens next season now. 

Is there nowhere else you can go to bore folk to death?

Is there nowhere else you can go to bore folk to death?

gonzo lost a days Work replying

If allardyce gets sacked do you reckon we have a chance? Would you want him back?

If allardyce gets sacked do you reckon we have a chance? Would you want him back?

 

No. And yes 100%.

 

See no reason he'd want to come here now, been here and done that. 

If allardyce gets sacked do you reckon we have a chance? Would you want him back?

 

Of course we don't have a chance you mentalist    

 

And, I love Parky, but id pot him within about 3 seconds if Allardyce fancied coming back

Is there nowhere else you can go to bore folk to death?

I'd hate to meet him and Malc in a pub

Edited May 15, 20188 yr by DirtySanchez

What exactly is route one?

 

A racking pass from Chris Smalling to find Ibrahimovich

 

A racking pass from Van Dyke to pick out Salah

 

A racking pass from Howard to be flicked on by Pratley, for ALF to run onto and Cross for Wilbraham to score?

 

Mmmmmmmmmmm

 

Did Sam Allardyce play route one?

 

Does Mourinho play route one?

 

Is there a better "Bolton" way, like WHU and Everton fans seem to think they have. I love to be enlightened...

Route 1 to me is playing 1 up front using a striker who isn't there to score or even assist, just to flick it on, win free kicks or long throws or corners. Generally route 1 teams will play their goalscorer either out of position (left wing) or not at all. There will also be no midfield passing. Massive difference between a long pass e.g. shelvey to a striker to run onto, and a hoof onto the centre forwards head that he can't control. BSA was route 1 without a doubt, the plan was to get free kicks and those pointless long throws. I don't watch enough of Man U to know.

Under bsa the direct football was backed up with a pressing midfield that would pick up second baĺls and keep the pressure on.

Big Sam did play route 1 stuff a lot. However it wasn't that and no Plan B. Any side with Okocha, Djorkaeff, Hierro, Campo, Diouf, Stelios is going to be capable of playing a game more pleasing to the eye and on the deck. And we did - not pure and undiluted but we mixed it up with the pragmatic stuff. Anybody who says otherwise has a selective memory.

how has it come to talking about allardyces teams in a Parkinson thread

 

Nothing alike

His inability to adapt his ideology away from home means he should go in my opinion. Plus, after the Burton game, in his interview he looked like he completely lost and devoid words to explain what happened

Iles breaking that it looks like Parkinson has signed a new contract.

 

Scenes.

 

Meltdown.

 

#ButWhatAboutAllardyce

Iles breaking that it looks like Parkinson has signed a new contract.

 

Scenes.

 

Meltdown.

 

#ButWhatAboutAllardyce

He’s not. He’s saying it looks like Parkinson has been given go ahead to plan for next season. He’s on a one year rolling deal so doesn’t need a new contract. The contracts bit refers to offering players new deals.

Oh Shit! Parky staying? I won't bother with a season ticket then, I'll just shell out £35.00 for the last game of the season!

Will the mentalists be happy when they get their wish for free flowing football under PP and we end up getting relegated?

Will the mentalists be happy when they get their wish for free flowing football under PP and we end up getting relegated?

So you were happy with the crap served up for most of last season