Mounts Kipper Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, barrycowdrill said: The stay aways in general are part of the problem. Whether it’s dressed up as some moral reasoning or just can’t be fucking arsed is irrelevant We spend more than we bring in. Simple economics thats been the case for the last 20 years but for 17 or 18 of those the club had a father who continuously gave it money. Now he’s 6 feet under its gotta look after itself and it can’t. I’ve been to about 4 home games this season as my missus works and I have the kids. But kept my ST why? Because as ludicrous as it sounds the club needs my £400 more than I do. That’s my ‘moral stance’ but hey, each to their own I’m same probably missed 5-6 games being out of the country but won’t ever not renew my tickets, we’ve some fantastic fans but unfortunately too many fickle fuckers and they are one of the main reasons we can’t compete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter FrancisFogarty Posted April 3, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted April 3, 2019 For me, providing we are still going, and debt free (and therefore one of the richest clubs in the league) I couldn't give a shiney one if the owner is the late, great Attila the Hun with Genghis as manager. I just want us to be living within our means and not be in the papers every fucking day stumbling from one disaster from the other, a laughing stock of every no-mark tinpot club in the country. I can cope with shit football, I'm a Bolton fan, but fuck me. I used to be on here every day commenting and joining in but I can't be bothered at the moment. It's getting me down. I don't need counselling by the way, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Johnny Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, Casino said: So it is you Welcome back It is mate hope your well pal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 3 minutes ago, Francis Fogarty said: For me, providing we are still going, and debt free (and therefore one of the richest clubs in the league) I couldn't give a shiney one if the owner is the late, great Attila the Hun with Genghis as manager. I just want us to be living within our means and not be in the papers every fucking day stumbling from one disaster from the other, a laughing stock of every no-mark tinpot club in the country. I can cope with shit football, I'm a Bolton fan, but fuck me. I used to be on here every day commenting and joining in but I can't be bothered at the moment. It's getting me down. I don't need counselling by the way, thanks. What was your previous poster name? As never seen a post from you before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 3 minutes ago, Francis Fogarty said: For me, providing we are still going, and debt free (and therefore one of the richest clubs in the league) I couldn't give a shiney one if the owner is the late, great Attila the Hun with Genghis as manager. I just want us to be living within our means and not be in the papers every fucking day stumbling from one disaster from the other, a laughing stock of every no-mark tinpot club in the country. I can cope with shit football, I'm a Bolton fan, but fuck me. I used to be on here every day commenting and joining in but I can't be bothered at the moment. It's getting me down. I don't need counselling by the way, thanks. 80-90% of clubs in this division are doing a much worse job at living within their means. The differnece is we haven’t got anyone daft enough to cover the tab anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted April 3, 2019 Moderators Share Posted April 3, 2019 3 minutes ago, Big Johnny said: It is mate hope your well pal I'm more well than millsy has looked for 30 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted April 3, 2019 Moderators Share Posted April 3, 2019 Just now, gonzo said: 80-90% of clubs in this division are doing a much worse job at living within their means. The differnece is we haven’t got anyone daft enough to cover the tab anymore. I've recently realised that folk dont actually want us to live within our means They want us to live within our owners means and said owner needs to be minted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Johnny Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 1 minute ago, Casino said: I'm more well than millsy has looked for 30 years Haha I was talking to him today he still goes now and again..😃 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sluffy Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, WestStandUpper said: So it’s my fault now, for deciding not to line the owners pockets any more because of his behaviour and antics? What about the owner who pockets a sizeable bonus for himself despite not paying wages, and contractual bonuses to players and ex players? the same owner who committed to purchase a player from another club but only to go back on it. the owner who is the sole custodian of the club who flatly refuses to pay his staffs salaries with no explanation or care. the owner who refuses to pay bills. its his club, it’s his responsibility. You see this is where many people go wrong - it may be his club as owner but it isn't his PERSONAL responsibility and that is why the club is a LIMITED COMPANY. In a nutshell it trades and as long as it earns more than it spends then everything is fine. If it spends more than it earns it is not the owners responsibility to put their hand in their pocket but the business needs to instead cut costs and maximise income to turn the position around. That's why he's been robbing Peter to pay Paul and begging people to fill the stadium for every match. He's no saint granted but neither as he been required to put millions in of his own money to pay the wages. If however he's been found to have been up to some financial jiggery pokery well that's a different matter but up to now all who have seen the books, which have been a few recently - have not brought anything to the attention of the proper authorities (in so far as we know) and until that point comes he's not been found guilty of doing anything criminal whilst he's owned the club no matter what people my say or think. I'm not sticking up for the bloke but merely explaining how it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter FrancisFogarty Posted April 3, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted April 3, 2019 6 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: What was your previous poster name? As never seen a post from you before. I was Juan Kerr but lost my login details. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter FrancisFogarty Posted April 3, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted April 3, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, gonzo said: 80-90% of clubs in this division are doing a much worse job at living within their means. The differnece is we haven’t got anyone daft enough to cover the tab anymore. I'm not bothered about them Gonzo, I'm only bothered about us. What everybody else is doing doesn't affect me. And I'm not sure about them 'doing a much worse job' either. Edited April 3, 2019 by FrancisFogarty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sluffy Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 14 minutes ago, Duck Egg said: If Bassini gets it then Nixons landed a knockout blow! If you throw enough punches one has to land sooner or later and I think that is the style Mr Nixon has. He does get some right but most don't land. And until H came along he was probably the only source of any news we had (I'd even put the LoV as being more informed than Iles), unless someone or other on here did the kindness of tipping us the wink. (which is not an euphemism) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kane57 Posted April 3, 2019 Author Share Posted April 3, 2019 30 minutes ago, jules_darby said: Who’d have thought a topic started by Kane would reach 371 pages Ah well you know what they say, once a clickbait wanker..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big E Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 13 minutes ago, Sluffy said: You see this is where many people go wrong - it may be his club as owner but it isn't his PERSONAL responsibility and that is why the club is a LIMITED COMPANY. In a nutshell it trades and as long as it earns more than it spends then everything is fine. If it spends more than it earns it is not the owners responsibility to put their hand in their pocket but the business needs to instead cut costs and maximise income to turn the position around. That's why he's been robbing Peter to pay Paul and begging people to fill the stadium for every match. He's no saint granted but neither as he been required to put millions in of his own money to pay the wages. If however he's been found to have been up to some financial jiggery pokery well that's a different matter but up to now all who have seen the books, which have been a few recently - have not brought anything to the attention of the proper authorities (in so far as we know) and until that point comes he's not been found guilty of doing anything criminal whilst he's owned the club no matter what people my say or think. I'm not sticking up for the bloke but merely explaining how it is. https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=i&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwiM6amG7bThAhWJmBQKHQnDCdMQzPwBegQIARAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theguardian.com%2Ffootball%2F2015%2Fnov%2F30%2Fbolton-first-team-players-yet-to-receive-wages-for-november&psig=AOvVaw3cMn5ms_8pW8DrPr6KJwyd&ust=1554412797557871 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kane57 Posted April 3, 2019 Author Share Posted April 3, 2019 14 minutes ago, Sluffy said: You see this is where many people go wrong - it may be his club as owner but it isn't his PERSONAL responsibility and that is why the club is a LIMITED COMPANY. In a nutshell it trades and as long as it earns more than it spends then everything is fine. If it spends more than it earns it is not the owners responsibility to put their hand in their pocket but the business needs to instead cut costs and maximise income to turn the position around. That's why he's been robbing Peter to pay Paul and begging people to fill the stadium for every match. He's no saint granted but neither as he been required to put millions in of his own money to pay the wages. If however he's been found to have been up to some financial jiggery pokery well that's a different matter but up to now all who have seen the books, which have been a few recently - have not brought anything to the attention of the proper authorities (in so far as we know) and until that point comes he's not been found guilty of doing anything criminal whilst he's owned the club no matter what people my say or think. I'm not sticking up for the bloke but merely explaining how it is. You've been sticking up for him for three years, so what's another four weeks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big E Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 Kane with your track record of despising the last two chairman you willing to give bassini a chance ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kane57 Posted April 3, 2019 Author Share Posted April 3, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Big E said: Kane with your track record of despising the last two chairman you willing to give bassini a chance ? I always got on with Gartside so no despising there. I think everyone deserves a second chance, don't you? tbf I don't despise Ken either Edited April 3, 2019 by Kane57 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wigan White pt2 Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 1 minute ago, Kane57 said: I always got on with Gartside so no despising there. I think everyone deserves a second chance, don't you? Gary Glitter doesn't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kane57 Posted April 3, 2019 Author Share Posted April 3, 2019 1 minute ago, Wigan White pt2 said: Gary Glitter doesn't actually i can think of a few people who don't, so i take that back. Glitter Saville Madine Hitler Gervais Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wakey Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 Can't see what all the fuss is about with Bassini. Think some folk need to take a breath. 1. It's not his money, he's just the stooge. Per Howard's earlier comments, the real buyers are awash (pardon the pun) with money of dubious origin. They'll be chucking it at us faster than we can spend it. 2. The next stadium sponsorship deal will be massive (and a bit of a surprise that a newly formed company based in a shed in the arse end of nowhere paid so much). 3. Bassini will disappear pretty soon after the sale goes through. Maybe literally 4. In the meantime, his chairman's notes will be piss funny. If he gets it, fuck it ... let's just enjoy the fride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boothy Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, wakey said: Can't see what all the fuss is about with Bassini. Think some folk need to take a breath. 1. It's not his money, he's just the stooge. Per Howard's earlier comments, the real buyers are awash (pardon the pun) with money of dubious origin. They'll be chucking it at us faster than we can spend it. 2. The next stadium sponsorship deal will be massive (and a bit of a surprise that a newly formed company based in a shed in the arse end of nowhere paid so much). 3. Bassini will disappear pretty soon after the sale goes through. Maybe literally 4. In the meantime, his chairman's notes will be piss funny. If he gets it, fuck it ... let's just enjoy the fride. Don’t forget Ken will be chairman and the King of Bahrain will be the kit man Edited April 3, 2019 by Boothy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wakey Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 Just now, Boothy said: Don’t forget Ken will be chairman for comedy value, that's just as good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e2e4 Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 have the davies's factored their performance fees invoices to these bahrainis ? (ie, theyre owed £10mil , but took £8m from the bahrainis) LOLOL if theyve used the same named mechanism kens been using. its probably not , but would be funny if it were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted April 3, 2019 Moderators Share Posted April 3, 2019 So did Bassini do Watford out of his own pocket or for someone else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kane57 Posted April 3, 2019 Author Share Posted April 3, 2019 Just now, ZicoKelly said: So did Bassini do Watford out of his own pocket or for someone else? Sure I read that he leant himself £1.5m from the club and then never paid it back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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