Coronavirus

[RONNIE PHILLIPS]

1 minute ago, ZicoKelly said:

Maybe, maybe not, but whilst the message is you can excerise responsibly in the park, people will go to the park, mingle, share playground equipment, not maintain distance etc

Whether they are obtuse or ignorant, it's happening because of the vague message from the top

Like urging people not to go to the pub, then having to shut them down, either because they don't care or they think they can maintain distance from other folk

The message needs to be clearer

You could write it on the sole of your doc martens & stamp it on some of these fuckers heads & it still wouldn't be clear enough. 

[bwfcfan5]

Just now, RONNIE PHILLIPS said:

You could write it on the sole of your doc martens & stamp it on some of these fuckers heads & it still wouldn't be clear enough. 

Hang on, he said don’t go to pubs. Yet a few days later on here loads were saying they were still going.

Either those people are thick, deliberately ignoring advice, OR the advice has been massively confused.

Fact is people are a mix. Some don’t care, some have good intentions but then find it impossible to follow and others are generally confused. Nobody can say the advice has been clearly delivered. Unlike the budget pronouncements which are specific and crystal clear. The advice has been hotch potch. It doesn’t help they changed strategy last weekend. It doesn’t help that seemingly elements of the government including Boris aren’t comfortable with the advice, he was waffling on the other day about going to visit his mum on mother’s day before Downing Street had to issue a correction saying he’d do it via Skype the same day he had to ask everyone not to see their mothers.

A lockdown here is inevitable and it’s a mixture of having a lot of idiots here and also of poor decision making and communication from government, especially initially. Fuelled by major disagreement behind the scenes. 

[Sweep]

12 minutes ago, Rudy’s Message said:

Full lockdown is coming. People can’t abide my distancing rules now. 

Aye, probably early in this coming week as well, it's the only thing for it really

[Casino]

I might be making this up, but im sure fridays press conferences said leisure centres could allow the use of 5 a side facilities

[bwfcfan5]

2 minutes ago, Sweep said:

Aye, probably early in this coming week as well, it's the only thing for it really

Next 48 hours I reckon.

[Leyther_Matt]

6 minutes ago, Casino said:

I might be making this up, but im sure fridays press conferences said leisure centres could allow the use of 5 a side facilities

Ours haven’t officially cancelled yet but I just don’t see how that is practical while maintaining a 2m distance from everybody. Likewise now idea how a good number of professional teams are still in training. 

[peelyfeet]

13 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said:

Next 48 hours I reckon.

I think it's been coming anyway -  I think they're waiting for the corona virus bill to be passed so that they can enforce the measures.

2nd reading and committee stage tomorrow 

https://services.parliament.uk/bills/2019-21/coronavirus.html

 

Edited March 22, 2020 by peelyfeet

[DazBob]

It needs to be done. Too many morons around. 

Just showed on the news a load of folk using an outdoor gym, all swapping equipment. Folk can't be trusted to use what few brain cells they have.

[Guest]

The communication is clear.

But, also, does it matter as long as the populations are kept apart?

as long as older folks, and other vulnerable, keep away, then it should be ok.

[bwfcfan5]

2 minutes ago, boltondiver said:

The communication is clear.

But, also, does it matter as long as the populations are kept apart?

as long as older folks, and other vulnerable, keep away, then it should be ok.

The communications can’t  be clear when you are repeating an aim that died last weekend. The aim is suppressing the total number of cases. Entirely. Irrespective of age. Like Italy, France etc are trying to do. The model of trying to keep older people and vulnerable people separated (in truth half the country) and let herd immunity deal with the rest is discredited. The plan has been now to keep cases as low as possible. Which is why they closed schools and are appealing to people of all ages to stay inside. Soon it won’t be an appeal but a rule.

 

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said:

The communications can’t  be clear when you are repeating an aim that died last weekend. The aim is suppressing the total number of cases. Entirely. Irrespective of age. Like Italy, France etc are trying to do. The model of trying to keep older people and vulnerable people separated (in truth half the country) and let herd immunity deal with the rest is discredited. The plan has been now to keep cases as low as possible. Which is why they closed schools and are appealing to people of all ages to stay inside. Soon it won’t be an appeal but a rule.

 

We’ll see 

It is useful to remember what they are trying to achieve; managing demand through the NHS; nothing more or less.

[RONNIE PHILLIPS]

30 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said:

Hang on, he said don’t go to pubs. Yet a few days later on here loads were saying they were still going.

Either those people are thick, deliberately ignoring advice, OR the advice has been massively confused.

 

I'm going with the 1st two mostly. 

[royal white]

5 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said:

The communications can’t  be clear when you are repeating an aim that died last weekend. The aim is suppressing the total number of cases. Entirely. Irrespective of age. Like Italy, France etc are trying to do. The model of trying to keep older people and vulnerable people separated (in truth half the country) and let herd immunity deal with the rest is discredited. The plan has been now to keep cases as low as possible. Which is why they closed schools and are appealing to people of all ages to stay inside. Soon it won’t be an appeal but a rule.

 

I think it’s clear to most, even the fucktards that are still going out in groups. It’s down to them being ignorant cunts 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

1 hour ago, bwfcfan5 said:

The advice is just not clear enough. Exercise in parks responsibly is bollocks. People don’t know what that means. We will be locked down because our government can’t give clear advice. Strurgeon, Sadiq Khan said don’t go out. Simple as that. Boris is waffling about exercise in green parks responsibly. It’s bollocks. 

Edit: he’s just been called out on this by a journalist finally. 

Utter crap.

It's perfectly clear, to all but the cranially challenged. The social distancing etc has been banged home.

People choosing to ignore that for whatever reason isn't the government's fault. Nor the medical experts' fault. Just plain ignorance.

Those on lockdown are still able to go to work and even go for a walk in other countries, so long as they print of a form.

More about social responsibility and attitudes; of which constantly blaming someone else eg the government is a prime example.

[royal white]

Thoughts and prayers with this lady 

[Guest]

Parents; tell me I’m wrong, but I can imagine that parents might be saying to kids; go and play, but you’re not going to see Granny

 

[Guest]

1 hour ago, bwfcfan5 said:

That’s why kids have been playing in parks this weekend. Parks full of them. Why groups of adults have been walking and running together. If I went for a run I cannot guarantee I won’t come close to others. Not out of my house. People need to be told very clearly what this means. If you take kids to a park you cannot guarantee a 2m distance, it’s impossible. Therefore should be told clearly, not to. 

That’s an enforcement issue.

[ErnestTurnip]

Surely no-one is actually surprised at how people are behaving?

We're a country full of spoiled, entitled fuckers who put themselves before the whole - why would people behave any differently to how they are now.

 

[bwfcfan5]

4 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Utter crap.

It's perfectly clear, to all but the cranially challenged. The social distancing etc has been banged home.

People choosing to ignore that for whatever reason isn't the government's fault. Nor the medical experts' fault. Just plain ignorance.

Those on lockdown are still able to go to work and even go for a walk in other countries, so long as they print of a form.

More about social responsibility and attitudes; of which constantly blaming someone else eg the government is a prime example.

You can go to work as an essential worker. That’s it.

Our lockdown will need to be essential workers only out. Everyone else can only go out for medicine or food. And there should be strict limits on how that works. Cos idiots will still be packing into Tesco soon as it opens.

[DazBob]

4 minutes ago, boltondiver said:

Parents; tell me I’m wrong, but I can imagine that parents might be saying to kids; go and play, but you’re not going to see Granny

 

I'd say you're wrong, at least in my household.

Any parent saying that to their kids is numb as fuck and ignorant as fuck.

[birch-chorley]

I will be pulling my hair out if I can’t even go for a walk or run on my own 

Struggling to see how I do 6 months of this anyway 

[bwfcfan5]

6 minutes ago, boltondiver said:

Parents; tell me I’m wrong, but I can imagine that parents might be saying to kids; go and play, but you’re not going to see Granny

 

If you say to your kids go and play they will mix with others. You can’t stop them. That’s the problem. The only way to comply with government advice is to go with your kids for a walk etc or to not let them out. That’s what I’m doing - taking them in the garden for garden cricket, football etc. But if I had no garden I’d have to consider whether it was possible to go outside and comply with advice. You see large groups of kids playing and ultimately that’s the risk. 
 

And the very clear advice is for kids to go out for walks or bike rides but be minimum of 2M apart from others apart from family they live with at all times. And not to mix outside of living family. So again you’re suggesting something contrary to the advice you say is really clear.

Edited March 22, 2020 by bwfcfan5

[Tonge moor green jacket]

4 minutes ago, boltondiver said:

That’s an enforcement issue.

Some time ago you said Boris was very liberal. Usual individual said that was bollocks. Now he's showing exactly that: it's not his fault the public can't respect that and take the piss.

See them fucking moan when he has to lock them down and fine them for going out without due cause.

Perhaps even refuse to give them their 80% if they're going to abuse the situation whilst off.

[Casino]

24 minutes ago, boltondiver said:

The communication is clear.

But, also, does it matter as long as the populations are kept apart?

as long as older folks, and other vulnerable, keep away, then it should be ok.

You really would defend anything the tories do

Stay 2 metres apart

But play 5 a side

How, ffs

[MickyD]

That is the issue; the Govt. is saying that it's ok to take the kids to the park. The problem is, that advice goes to everyone so it's everyone turning up.