Coronavirus

[Guest]

6 minutes ago, Spider said:

A person is smart.

People are stupid.

(Agent K; Men in Black 1994)

By August, I’d be amazed if those Nightingale hospitals aren’t fit to burst.

They won't be is my prediction.

The virus has almost left the non-hospital/care home population.

 

[Rudy]

17 minutes ago, stevieb said:

I'd interpret stay alert as somewhere between 'stay home' and 'don't do congas with the neighbours' 

You mean it’s not have a massive big gay 200 person pile on in the middle of the park?

[stevieb]

15 minutes ago, Rudy’s Message said:

You mean it’s not have a massive big gay 200 person pile on in the middle of the park?

I'd cautiously advise against a lemon party at this stage of the pandemic but rest assured they are on the horizon. 

[Spider]

Doesn’t look to me like we have any sort of control of the infection.

But I’m just a prole so it matters not a fckin jot what I think. I’m staying on lockdown for a while longer either way.

I understand the economic situation, but a healthy economy needs a healthy population. I think this could bite us on the arse.

I honestly think another 2/3 weeks would be very beneficial.

[Escobarp]

7 minutes ago, Spider said:

Doesn’t look to me like we have any sort of control of the infection.

But I’m just a prole so it matters not a fckin jot what I think. I’m staying on lockdown for a while longer either way.

I understand the economic situation, but a healthy economy needs a healthy population. I think this could bite us on the arse.

I honestly think another 2/3 weeks would be very beneficial.

I ask again. What is it you think it is that is going to be announced this evening and why? Everyone I’m hearing is more of the same another 3 weeks bar more exercise. Not sure how that’s biting Anything?

[peelyfeet]

This conversation just came up on a football dads WhatsApp group I'm on.

Do you think Big Daddy and Giant Haystacks would have survived Coronavirus.

[Spider]

34 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

I ask again. What is it you think it is that is going to be announced this evening and why? Everyone I’m hearing is more of the same another 3 weeks bar more exercise. Not sure how that’s biting Anything?

It’s about the signals.

We’ve seen this weekend how many people have given up on the lockdown. A message of any ambiguity whatsoever will simply give those people (and many more) a green light to just carry on.

The message needs to be crystal. Stay home.

But, because of the bill being run up on furlough payments, I think they want employers to dig the conches out and summon everyone back for the 18th.

[Escobarp]

2 minutes ago, Spider said:

It’s about the signals.

We’ve seen this weekend how many people have given up on the lockdown. A message of any ambiguity whatsoever will simply give those people (and many more) a green light to just carry on.

The message needs to be crystal. Stay home.

But, because of the bill being run up on furlough payments, I think they want employers to dig the conches out and summon everyone back for the 18th.

I don’t think folk need an excuse to break lockdown they already are and already were weeks ago. It does seem to be more prevalent in last couple of weeks so are we fighting a losing battle anyway?

 

agree the message change isn’t helpful. Should remain the same. Stay at home. 
 

also as I’ve said before if we don’t start getting back to something more normal ASAP in terms of work, poverty will kill more than this virus hands down as the government have no choice but to stop paying eventually. We simply don’t have it. 
 

It’s a fine fine balance And pretty much unpalatable whichever way you look at it sadly.  Desperate times indeed 

[Casino]

The furloghed masses do seem to be in the sights of government

It is costing a fortune and I can understand them wanting to end it, but some of the language ie Hancock 'weaning them off furlough' is insulting and won't be forgotten

Sooner the shit is out of a job the better

 

From our point of view at work, we need to see more shops opened before we can get our people back in

Garden stores will be handy

[Spider]

Don’t get me wrong, this is an awfully tough call, but I think another couple of weeks might squash the virus right down.

 

[radcliffe white]

7 minutes ago, Casino said:

The furloghed masses do seem to be in the sights of government

It is costing a fortune and I can understand them wanting to end it, but some of the language ie Hancock 'weaning them off furlough' is insulting and won't be forgotten

Sooner the shit is out of a job the better

 

From our point of view at work, we need to see more shops opened before we can get our people back in

Garden stores will be handy

I’m thinking they will reduce furlough for those who can’t go back, like you say costing a fortune 

[Casino]

I could go back, but there's nowt much for me to do

Got 10 starting over this coming week but that doesn't need me in full time

 

[Casino]

And the likes of hotel/pub staff, what are they supposed to do

They've done exactly as they were asked, fuck off home and don't come out, and to then be told they need weaning off furlough as though it's a lifestyle choice is insulting

Id furlough Hancock, the waste of fucking space

[Escobarp]

You don’t like Hancock we get it 

also think hospitality sector will be kept on furlough. As they don’t want them opening.  
 

soon as furlough is stopped across the board watch the unemployment numbers soar. Furlough Has merely delayed it. It was flawed in the fact that the thinking was the economy would flourish when it opens up. It may but it won’t be fully open for months and even then there will be mass caution  

 

the airlines have merely been upfront and honest  about what’s coming    

 

we are on the edge of a big cliff and about to start the fall downwards. 

Edited May 10, 2020 by Escobarp

[radcliffe white]

Aye furlough is buying folk some time whilst getting some money 

should be used wisely as there will be lay offs 

[Guest]

Rishi will be the one under pressure about further furlough measures.

[Escobarp]

Just now, radcliffewhite1 said:

Aye furlough is buying folk some time whilst getting some money 

should be used wisely as there will be lay offs 

Spot on.  hopefully it’s as low and impact as there possibly can be and other industries which pick up quicker can take up some of the slack. Hope nobody on here is affected 

[Escobarp]

Just now, boltondiver said:

Rishi will be the one under pressure about further furlough measures.

It’s Hancock pulling his strings didn’t you know?

[Rudy]

 

[Escobarp]

1 minute ago, Rudy’s Message said:

 

Right message, eventually, but too soon.  Perfect message for when we start to phase out. But We’re not I don’t believe so message should stay constant. 
 

They’ve got this very wrong 

[Rudy]

7 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

Right message, eventually, but too soon.  Perfect message for when we start to phase out. But We’re not I don’t believe so message should stay constant. 
 

They’ve got this very wrong 

Stay home was a good message.

But ‘limit contact with other people’ , that is wide open to interpretation and will exploited by the topless stans and vest top Barbaras up and down the country. 
I can here the lambrini and Stella already opening

[Spider]

Sales guys on the road - at all levels.

Does this mean they can get back out there?

[Guest]

13 minutes ago, Rudy’s Message said:

 

The knob head press will be screeching all over it.

The quiet majority of people will get it and act well.

[Casino]

Just now, Spider said:

Sales guys on the road - at all levels.

Does this mean they can get back out there?

Do they need to in order to do their job

[Spider]

5 minutes ago, Casino said:

Do they need to in order to do their job

I’d say they do

Others would say they can stay home and pick up the phone.

In my opinion, they are better face to face.

The government and people nervous about CV may say otherwise.

Do I send a guy on a 2/3/400 mile round trip?

My competitors might.