Coronavirus

[mickbrown]

Just now, Youri McAnespie said:

Not even if they've been 'pwopa nawty' in the past?

That is pretty much akin to receiving a mortar attack or engaging in a firefight in Helmand Province, surely?

Got a point there.

Those cafe chairs of European squares sting as much as an RPG, I’m sure 

[jmjhb]

Gardiner should be fired, aye

[Escobarp]

3 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

Junky looking, druggy. Tomato, tomayto.

We’re not all wedded to the literal. 
 

I paint with a broadwe brush.😁

Well fortunately some of us are partial to the detail which makes a huge difference. 
 

Also the reason I know what he does for a living? She has posted it all over social media for 10 weeks about how she can’t leave the house as it would be dangerous as if she caught it and gave it him and he infected residents in the home she would never Ever forgive herself. 
 

even had a dig at me indirectly on it for going out for walks more than once a day. 
 

strangely someone called her out yesterday for the care home and boyfriend situation. Her reaction? Called the girl ignorant and a racist and blocked her go figure 

[mickbrown]

2 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

Well fortunately some of us are partial to the detail which makes a huge difference. 
 

Also the reason I know what he does for a living? She has posted it all over social media for 10 weeks about how she can’t leave the house as it would be dangerous as if she caught it and gave it him and he infected residents in the home she would never Ever forgive herself. 
 

even had a dig at me indirectly on it for going out for walks more than once a day. 
 

strangely someone called her out yesterday for the care home and boyfriend situation. Her reaction? Called the girl ignorant and a racist and blocked her go figure 

They do sound quite the pair

[Ani]

10 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

I didn’t say it wasn’t though did I? I accept that some of the uproar was about that. I’m merely talking about the omission from certain people who aren’t asking for his head on a stick? Starmer did the right thing. But wasn’t starmer asking for him to be sacked? Should he not therefore  set an example? Or is it double standards? 

No but you were comparing reactions to the two situations which you acknowledge are different. 
Genuinely not sure if Starmer can sack him. He is an elected representative. Suppose he could withdraw the whip but again not sure that means kicking him out of the party. 
 

Edit. Just seen his middle name is Strachan so should be sacked. Although his son is a footballer for Wycombe and I like them so not sure now. 

Edited June 8, 2020 by Ani

[Steejay]

9 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

I didn’t say it wasn’t though did I? I accept that some of the uproar was about that. I’m merely talking about the omission from certain people who aren’t asking for his head on a stick? Starmer did the right thing. But wasn’t starmer asking for him to be sacked? Should he not therefore  set an example? Or is it double standards? 

Of course it’s double standards.

But that’s allowed if you’re a politician.

They should all be lined up against a wall...

[Rudy]

Get off the fence Ste

[Escobarp]

1 minute ago, Ani said:

No but you were comparing reactions to the two situations which you acknowledge are different. 
Genuinely not sure if Starmer can sack him. He is an elected representative. Suppose he could withdraw the whip but again not sure that means kicking him out of the party. 

The intricacies of what can and can’t be done are sort of redundant I guess. It’s more the reaction of people. 
 

You have a precedent set by the Cummings saga on both sides. Starmer had a clear path to support him if he chooses (which he hasn’t by way of calling him out and saying it was wrong). But I’m looking for the media (who apparently are pro government according to lots on here) to show that by demonizing mr Gardiner for his actions and camping outside his house for days on end. 
 

again taking things literally I see both of them as doing the same thing here and both in positions whereby they shouldn’t be doing what they did. But one was the devil reincarnated and ones getting a free pass. My brain doesn’t work in the way which I can differentiate between the actions so I become confused by the reactions that people, who claim to be unbiased, have to the two incidents when to me they appear to quite similar although arguably the latter is actually worse? Yet it’s acceptable to most?

strange but not unexpected perhaps?

[MancWanderer]

1 hour ago, Youri McAnespie said:

😉

One of their lyrics, though...

"We just haven't got a clue what to do!"

Well, how about reporting him to the police and/or children's services, Steve - instead of writing a bloody song about him? Anyway he's dead now R.I.P.*

 

 

 

 

 

*(R.I.P. for SP that is, R.I.H. for JS)

 

Edit: There definitely might be some mileage in the theory - is it me or does the lead singer do a 'jingle jangle jewellery' apeing of Savile at around  2:12?

 

iirc the "Haven't got a clue what to do" was aimed at the BBC supposedly. He was so powerful that they were saying that the BBC executives at the time hadn't got the guts to stand up to him

Read the lyrics with Saville in mind and it makes sense

What a glorious worm hole to disappear down in the middle of the infighting on the Coronavirus thread. Thanks youri!! Bit of paedophilia with a sprinkling of conspiracy theory............

You better beware, you better take care
You better watch out if you've got long black hair
He'll come from behind, you'll go out of your mind
You'd better not go, you'd never know what you'll find

Aah, aah
You look in his eyes, don't be surprised
If you don't know what's going on behind his disguise
Nobody knows where Buster goes
He'll steal your woman out from under your nose

Does anyone know the way?
Did we hear someone say
"We just haven't got a clue what to do!"
Does anyone know the way?
There's got to be a way
To Block Buster!

The cops are out, they're running about;
Don't know if they'll ever be able to Block Buster out
He's gotta be caught, he's gotta be taught
Cause he's more evil than anyone here ever thought

[Ani]

9 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

The intricacies of what can and can’t be done are sort of redundant I guess. It’s more the reaction of people. 
 

You have a precedent set by the Cummings saga on both sides. Starmer had a clear path to support him if he chooses (which he hasn’t by way of calling him out and saying it was wrong). But I’m looking for the media (who apparently are pro government according to lots on here) to show that by demonizing mr Gardiner for his actions and camping outside his house for days on end. 
 

again taking things literally I see both of them as doing the same thing here and both in positions whereby they shouldn’t be doing what they did. But one was the devil reincarnated and ones getting a free pass. My brain doesn’t work in the way which I can differentiate between the actions so I become confused by the reactions that people, who claim to be unbiased, have to the two incidents when to me they appear to quite similar although arguably the latter is actually worse? Yet it’s acceptable to most?

strange but not unexpected perhaps?

I would argue the first was worse purely because it involved someone who was displaying symptoms and then the farcical explanation. But that might be my sub conscious bias !  
Starmer has managed the situation better than Boris which will help kill the story. 
My leftie/liberal mates say the media is controlled by the right wing. Mates on the other side say the media is run by leftie liberals. 
I should point out that the above conversation is not one we have on a regular basis. More time spent discussing favourite children’s TV character. 

[Escobarp]

1 minute ago, Ani said:

I would argue the first was worse purely because it involved someone who was displaying symptoms and then the farcical explanation. But that might be my sub conscious bias !  
Starmer has managed the situation better than Boris which will help kill the story. 
My leftie/liberal mates say the media is controlled by the right wing. Mates on the other side say the media is run by leftie liberals. 
I should point out that the above conversation is not one we have on a regular basis. More time spent discussing favourite children’s TV character. 

I think starmer had to do what he did in terms of condemning it. He may well have done that anyway and if so rightly so. 
 

Cummings also didn’t come into contact with anyone other than those who he lived with anyway? Not sure Gardiner can say the same  both irresponsible but ones acceptable because he’s marching on behalf of todays trending topic on social media. Oh and he’s not a tory  if that has been a  tory mp there would have been uproar  

the media display to both events seem to point them firmly leaning in one direction. Or how else do they explain the vast difference in reactions?
 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

See, I'm not overly arsed about the approach of the paymasters/bosses. Folk can debate that all they want.

For me, an MP (don't give a toss what party) ought to be capable of following some basic guidelines. (That also includes advisors).

On that basis, they should be fined where they have committed an offence. That might go some way towards showing the public at large that no one is above the law, and that being a cunt could see you getting a knock at the door.

[Ani]

22 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

I think starmer had to do what he did in terms of condemning it. He may well have done that anyway and if so rightly so. 
 

Cummings also didn’t come into contact with anyone other than those who he lived with anyway? Not sure Gardiner can say the same  both irresponsible but ones acceptable because he’s marching on behalf of todays trending topic on social media. Oh and he’s not a tory  if that has been a  tory mp there would have been uproar  

the media display to both events seem to point them firmly leaning in one direction. Or how else do they explain the vast difference in reactions?
 

The different reactions could just as easily be related back to the leaders reactions. 
When Jenrick was accused of breaking rules he gave a credible story and it went away. Same with Kinnock. 
Starmer says ‘yes has been a prick’ story dies. 
Boris and the boys reinvent the rules and produce a stupid story which adds fuel. Also Cummings is part of the leadership team of the Govt rather than opposition. 
 

I had no idea who Gardiner is. Looked him up on wiki. Seems a cock. 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

2 minutes ago, Ani said:

The different reactions could just as easily be related back to the leaders reactions. 
When Jenrick was accused of breaking rules he gave a credible story and it went away. Same with Kinnock. 
Starmer says ‘yes has been a prick’ story dies. 
Boris and the boys reinvent the rules and produce a stupid story which adds fuel. Also Cummings is part of the leadership team of the Govt rather than opposition. 
 

I had no idea who Gardiner is. Looked him up on wiki. Seems a cock. 

Wasn't he the mild mannered man in Viz, who turned into brown bottle to fight off the vicious cider woman?

[Escobarp]

1 minute ago, Ani said:

The different reactions could just as easily be related back to the leaders reactions. 
When Jenrick was accused of breaking rules he gave a credible story and it went away. Same with Kinnock. 
Starmer says ‘yes has been a prick’ story dies. 
Boris and the boys reinvent the rules and produce a stupid story which adds fuel. Also Cummings is part of the leadership team of the Govt rather than opposition. 
 

I had no idea who Gardiner is. Looked him up on wiki. Seems a cock. 

Did the witch-hunt not start as soon as the Cummings story broke? Before the press conference and just as soon as it broke all hell broke loose? 
 

cunmings is also not an elected member of parliament unlike Gardiner. I would imagine Gardiner should be subject to a more stringent set of rules and moral code than Cummings? He is Just a sub-contractor I would imagine rather than an employee?
 

don’t get me wrong boris et al should have jumped on it and dealt with it.  sorry but I don’t believe and struggle to think you believe that it would’ve gone away had that been the case. The msm are heavily biased. 

[Zico]

I hadn't even heard of Gardiner till a few posts ago

[Escobarp]

Can guess which mod removed my avatar. Very very sad and actually quite prejudicial really? Do white lives not matter? 
 

anyway another one for you. If I believed you had the intelligence to figure out who it was and it’s significance I would be amazed. 
 

Sad act 

[MancWanderer]

10 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

Can guess which mod removed my avatar. Very very sad and actually quite prejudicial really? Do white lives not matter? 
 

anyway another one for you. If I believed you had the intelligence to figure out who it was and it’s significance I would be amazed. 
 

Sad act 

Your avatar was removed?

[Escobarp]

6 minutes ago, MancWanderer said:

Your avatar was removed?

Yep. I shall let the person responsible come out and explain why. He won’t. But he should 

[MancWanderer]

3 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

Yep. I shall let the person responsible come out and explain why. He won’t. But he should 

Weird. Didn’t know that could happen 

[Escobarp]

2 minutes ago, MancWanderer said:

Weird. Didn’t know that could happen 

Power they crave in the outside world I guess but can only satisfy it here. Sad 

[Youri McAnespie]

Some jock cunt...

A never-married jock cunt - which in those days meant 100% nailed on gaylord.

Even Oscar Wilde had a wife and kids.

Melville Malpas or sommat.

[Youri McAnespie]

1 hour ago, MancWanderer said:

iirc the "Haven't got a clue what to do" was aimed at the BBC supposedly. He was so powerful that they were saying that the BBC executives at the time hadn't got the guts to stand up to him

Read the lyrics with Saville in mind and it makes sense

What a glorious worm hole to disappear down in the middle of the infighting on the Coronavirus thread. Thanks youri!! Bit of paedophilia with a sprinkling of conspiracy theory............

You better beware, you better take care
You better watch out if you've got long black hair
He'll come from behind, you'll go out of your mind
You'd better not go, you'd never know what you'll find

Aah, aah
You look in his eyes, don't be surprised
If you don't know what's going on behind his disguise
Nobody knows where Buster goes
He'll steal your woman out from under your nose

Does anyone know the way?
Did we hear someone say
"We just haven't got a clue what to do!"
Does anyone know the way?
There's got to be a way
To Block Buster!

The cops are out, they're running about;
Don't know if they'll ever be able to Block Buster out
He's gotta be caught, he's gotta be taught
Cause he's more evil than anyone here ever thought

They can sit alongside Johnny Rotten as honourable voices of (then) dissent then.

 

As an aside did they rip off 'The Jean Genie' or did Bowie do them?

Also sounds like the tune off some handheld vac advert from years ago - perhaps they swiped it from there?

Edited June 8, 2020 by Youri McAnespie

[e2e4]

https://www.cnbc.com/video/2020/06/08/who-coronavirus-patients-who-dont-show-symptoms-arent-spreading-new-infections.html

this is probably why folk hanged witches when they hexed folk . 

[Casino]

1 hour ago, Escobarp said:

Yep. I shall let the person responsible come out and explain why. He won’t. But he should 

Out of interest, mr literal

How are you letting anybody do anything?

And i honestly cant see anybody caring a toss about your avatar

Certainly not enough to change it