QFPants Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 Just now, Casino said: Way i read it, if they get relegated, its next season If they stay up but -12 would relegate them, its this season If they stay up and -12 wouldnt relegate them, its next season No that’s double punishment I think. Applied this season, unless they somehow drop into the bottom 3 before any deductions, in which case they’d be no worse off and as such it would be applied next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger_Dubuis Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 3 minutes ago, ZicoKelly said: I'm sitll confused if Wigan stay up, are they going to be on -12 in the Championship next season? I think no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 Just heard How very sad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted July 1, 2020 Moderators Share Posted July 1, 2020 ok so -12 now takes them to 38, 4 points off safety, so they still have a chance to stay up, and start next season in the championship on 0 or, they go down, and start in league one on zero the only way they start next season on -12 is if they end up 12 or more points from staying up (unlikely as they are 8 clear with 10 teams below them) and go down, so they could in theory start next season in league one on -12, but it's not likely if it's not that, I don't get it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peelyfeet Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 1 minute ago, Roger_Dubuis said: I think no Points deduction only applies next season if they finish in the bottom 3 (without the -12) this season - which is very unlikley to happen. They've got a chance of staying up - have to play Hull, Barnsley, QPR and Charlton, all shit win a couple of them and they'll be almost there - might put a bet on them to stay up that way I'll be happy either way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted July 1, 2020 Moderators Share Posted July 1, 2020 8 minutes ago, ZicoKelly said: I'm sitll confused if Wigan stay up, are they going to be on -12 in the Championship next season? https://www.efl.com/news/2020/july/efl-statement-wigan-athletic/ Just read it again The only way -12 is applied this year is if they dont finish bottom 3 The -12 is then applied If that relegates them, down they go and start on zero So, no way do they start next season in the second tier -12 If they finish bottom three, pre -12, then next season, they start third tier -12 Clear as mud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deane koontz Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 It reads like a trip to Barnard castle and back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Steejay Posted July 1, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted July 1, 2020 Anti clockwise? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted July 1, 2020 Moderators Share Posted July 1, 2020 I just hope Wigan fans are more confused so that on the last day of the season, they spend a few minutes after full time thinking they've stayed up, before realising they've gone down I'd pay money to see that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 Not like the EFL to lack clarity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popeye doyle Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 1 minute ago, ZicoKelly said: I just hope Wigan fans are more confused so that on the last day of the season, they spend a few minutes after full time thinking they've stayed up, before realising they've gone down I'd pay money to see that Yep, me too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted July 1, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted July 1, 2020 I read it as If they finish in the relgation zone, the deduction applies NEXT season If they finish outside the relegation zone, the deduction happens THIS season. I think they'll stay up but the next few years will be like ours. The cunts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Horwich Posted July 1, 2020 Moderators Share Posted July 1, 2020 I hope they stay up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger_Dubuis Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 4 minutes ago, Spider said: I read it as If they finish in the relgation zone, the deduction applies NEXT season If they finish outside the relegation zone, the deduction happens THIS season. I think they'll stay up but the next few years will be like ours. The cunts. Think you are correct. Wigan's best, maybe only hope is Dave Whelan rescueing them.It might not be the same Dave Whelan though, he seems to have gone mad talking about chingalings and jews loving money and the like Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popeye doyle Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 They need as many points as they can get but are the players going to paid now they're in admin? if they don't get paid then they aren't going to be pulling their tripe out. More likely scenario they are looking for their next contract elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUREADY2ROLL Posted July 1, 2020 Author Share Posted July 1, 2020 33 minutes ago, Casino said: Way i read it, if they get relegated, its next season If they stay up but -12 would relegate them, its this season If they stay up and -12 wouldnt relegate them, its next season If they end up in the bottom three and are relegated it applies next season If they don't end up in the bottom three they apply it this season and if they then end up in the bottom three they go down. But no deduction next season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jol_BWFC Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 (edited) Seems pretty clear to me. There are three options: 1. They finish in the relegation zone at the end of the season. They will be relegated and start on -12 in league 1 next season. 2. They finish outside the relegation zone at the end of the season. 12 points are then deducted and that deduction drops them into the relegation zone. They are in league 1 next season, starting on 0 points. 3. They finish outside the relegation zone at the the end of the season. 12 points are then deducted and after that deduction they are still outside the relegation zone (because they finished 12+ points above the relegation zone). They are in the championship next season, starting on 0 points. In all three cases, the transfer embargo would apply next season. No. 1 wont happen. They are too far ahead of the relegation zone. It's between No.2 and No.3. We've seen what the transfer embargo will do, even in league 1. Worst case scenario (for Wigan haters), if someone with cash comes in and can afford to keep the current squad, they could be playing next season in the Championship with the same squad as now (less any whose contracts are up)...? Edited July 1, 2020 by Jol_BWFC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted July 1, 2020 Members Share Posted July 1, 2020 EFL in head bending shocker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 1 hour ago, Duck Egg said: Whelan has already said he's prepared to step in. If his broken leg allows, obviously He said he won’t as he’s too old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e2e4 Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Casino said: Clear as mud this happened to birmingham a year or two ago, they took the nine points before the march cut off deadline.. gary monk were their manager. that were for overspending , tho.. coz of harry redknapp .. iirc they were about 12th and went down about 4 places. is it a punishment if nowt happens ? knowing whats happening halfway through the season definitely helps when deciding what to do. we were fucked from the start. Edited July 1, 2020 by e2e4 spellings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 Wigan will stay up even with 12 point deduction, but it’s only matter of time, death by thousand cuts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e2e4 Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 i remember this toucheyes humble shitstirring.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SatanGreavsie Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 16 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: Wigan will stay up even with 12 point deduction, but it’s only matter of time, death by thousand cunts. EFA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyrotten Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 4 hours ago, Jol_BWFC said: The bastards better not continue their good form and finish 13+ points clear of relegation. That would be annoying. I can see them winning 5 more games - Charlton, Hull, Barnsley, QPR and Fulham (saving themselves for play offs), I still think they'll stop up, they are as good as any championship team on form since Jan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revelredne1961 Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 Don't care what they do this season, next season they are fu**ed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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