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Meanwhile in Ukraine

It’s kicking off

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Russian police arrest over 1000 protesters

Alexei Navalny, has been poisoned and arrested and still had this documentary released 

His wife has been arrested as well. 

Some serious minerals on this chap 

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    Its appeasement, that's all it is, and more people will end up dying in the longer term if you essentially capitulate to agressors. These aren't peace deals in the slightest.

  • We’ve reached a point where folk are so entrenched in their support for trump that they’ll side with Putin if it means not losing face on the socials. Thats where we are now. its ok

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9 hours ago, Spider said:

Yeah but Putin just wanted a sliver of Ukraine back, remember?

Nothing more to it than that and if there is it’s because Starmer is provoking him.

i notice he’s called up another 150,000 to chuck in the meat grinder. “It’s not for Ukraine” he says and the MAGA types will probably believe him.

You need to move on. The Don has already sorted that, not quite in the 24 hours he promised, but it's all sorted, and everybody is happy

19 minutes ago, Sweep said:

You need to move on. The Don has already sorted that, not quite in the 24 hours he promised, but it's all sorted, and everybody is happy

Yep. Ukraine sorted. Now onto world trade! Congrats to Donald and his team. Amazing work..... 👏👏👏

10 hours ago, Spider said:

Yeah but Putin just wanted a sliver of Ukraine back, remember?

Nothing more to it than that and if there is it’s because Starmer is provoking him.

i notice he’s called up another 150,000 to chuck in the meat grinder. “It’s not for Ukraine” he says and the MAGA types will probably believe him.

So the question would be ‘where are they for then?’ 

42 minutes ago, Ani said:

So the question would be ‘where are they for then?’ 

Baltic states, Poland, Moldova etc …..take your pick 😳.

I did read somewhere though that there is the potential for unrest in some Russian regions.  Wouldn’t be a surprise tbh - lots of separatist areas/cultures in the south and east who no doubt see an opportunity given the decimation of their army in Ukraine.

Oil prices are down somehow because of the tariffs. 

Could be very bad news for Russia....... 

I'd guess it's because they are a net exporter of petroleum products.

Anyway, fuck Russia.

47 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

I'd guess it's because they are a net exporter of petroleum products.

Anyway, fuck Russia.

Yep. Lower the oil price the better at the moment as far as Russia is concerned! 

32 minutes ago, kent_white said:

Yep. Lower the oil price the better at the moment as far as Russia is concerned! 

That contradicts your first post- or am I missing something? 

Russia is partially fucked anyway. 

Loads of little stories of production problems with regards to weapons.

Missiles without proper guidance system in the nose, with blank cover instead.

They may be on a war footing, and producing stuff at a greater rate than in peacetime, but their supply chains aren't as good as they'd like them to be.

Costing them an absolute fortune too- their economy is smaller than ours too (at the moment).

It's economy is believed to be growing, though much of it via a "dark economy"- dodgy sales of oil etc.

19 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

That contradicts your first post- or am I missing something? 

Russia is partially fucked anyway. 

Loads of little stories of production problems with regards to weapons.

Missiles without proper guidance system in the nose, with blank cover instead.

They may be on a war footing, and producing stuff at a greater rate than in peacetime, but their supply chains aren't as good as they'd like them to be.

Costing them an absolute fortune too- their economy is smaller than ours too (at the moment).

It's economy is believed to be growing, though much of it via a "dark economy"- dodgy sales of oil etc.

Does it? I can't figure out how? 😁

I was trying to say that somehow - as a result of the tariffs the global oil price is down. Which is bad news for Russia as its pretty much single handedly keeping it's economy afloat. 

If taken as a point of fact, it does.

I missed your sarcasm initially, so yes it now makes sense! :)

Russia has had to offload a lot of oil to China as a result of sanctions. I would imagine they're not getting the market price for it though- perhaps Tyldesley could shed some light- as China could just get it from anywhere.

As an aside, these ships of theirs (and maybe China too) that keep breaking communication cables by dragging anchors etc: maybe it's time one of them had an unfortunate accident. Perhaps by inadvertently dragging up some old WW2 UXB?

38 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

If taken as a point of fact, it does.

I missed your sarcasm initially, so yes it now makes sense! :)

Russia has had to offload a lot of oil to China as a result of sanctions. I would imagine they're not getting the market price for it though- perhaps Tyldesley could shed some light- as China could just get it from anywhere.

As an aside, these ships of theirs (and maybe China too) that keep breaking communication cables by dragging anchors etc: maybe it's time one of them had an unfortunate accident. Perhaps by inadvertently dragging up some old WW2 UXB?

I think China and India are both paying under the odds. 

Just a matter of whether under the odds is now above the market rate 

Chinese soldiers captured fighting for the Ruskis.

That can't be good.

17 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Chinese soldiers captured fighting for the Ruskis.

That can't be good.

suppose it depends if they're sent by China, or if they're just mercenaries. If sent by China, then that is a whole new can of worms opened up

Anyway, I thought Trumpton was supposed to have this all sorted already....

Imagine Russia, China and USA all being on the same side

Strange times

31 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

They're not though.

Far from it.

IMAGINE 

Chinese soldiers fighting for Russia

USA regurgitating Russian propaganda 

It's closer then you think

That is an extremely sinister turn of events if true

3 hours ago, Zico said:

IMAGINE 

Chinese soldiers fighting for Russia

USA regurgitating Russian propaganda 

It's closer then you think

US is currently in a trade war with China.

It has tariffs on Russia, and supplies weapons to Ukraine as well as information. 

These have been reinstated. 

It is still targeting Iranian proxies. 

No idea what propaganda they have spoken about. 

Completely flies in the face of your assertion. 

 

1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

US is currently in a trade war with China.

It has tariffs on Russia, and supplies weapons to Ukraine as well as information. 

These have been reinstated. 

It is still targeting Iranian proxies. 

No idea what propaganda they have spoken about. 

Completely flies in the face of your assertion. 

 

Which explains why you're not seeing the bigger picture

20 hours ago, Zico said:

Which explains why you're not seeing the bigger picture

Rubbish.

One point.

Presumably then the other points I made far outway one, and disprove your assertion. 

59 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Rubbish.

One point.

Presumably then the other points I made far outway one, and disprove your assertion. 

We're talking about the war on Ukraine in this thread 

It seems the US are on the same side as Russia given Trump said Zelensky was the dictator who started the war 

It seems China are on the same side as Russia if their troops are fighting for them

So regards the war on Ukraine 

It looks like Russia, USA and China are on the same side

 

 

Rubbish.

You keep falling for the propaganda.

12 hours ago, DazBob said:

Rubbish.

You keep falling for the propaganda.

Missing the nuance

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