It’s kicking off

Russian police arrest over 1000 protesters

Alexei Navalny, has been poisoned and arrested and still had this documentary released 

His wife has been arrested as well. 

Some serious minerals on this chap 

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39 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Saw something earlier about the EU's Ursula being caught in in Russian GPS blocking of her plane.

One mon reckoning it's time for NATO/European coalition to retaliate rather than continually letting these Russian acts go unpunished.

 

Huge swathes of eastern europe is being jammed, airlines have been complaining for months but nothing seems to be being done about it.

41 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Saw something earlier about the EU's Ursula being caught in in Russian GPS blocking of her plane.

One mon reckoning it's time for NATO/European coalition to retaliate rather than continually letting these Russian acts go unpunished.

 

Military installations on both sides do it all of the time... GPS should only be used as back up, the crew simply reverted to their aerad charts.

Why don't they just use Google Maps?

1 minute ago, Winchester White said:

Huge swathes of eastern europe is being jammed, airlines have been complaining for months but nothing seems to be being done about it.

Yes, I know about that, but when they're targeting a senior figure in European politics, that's a whole new level.

Got to provide/allow Ukraine sufficient long range weapons to attack these systems, if we're not going to do it ourselves.

4 minutes ago, Dimron said:

Military installations on both sides do it all of the time... GPS should only be used as back up, the crew simply reverted to their aerad charts.

Only one is doing it to commercial (and now political) flights outside the conflict zone.

You're making excuses, and diminishing the seriousness of Russian actions.

The same people that aren't averse to actually shooting down commercial aircraft. 

1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Only one is doing it to commercial (and now political) flights outside the conflict zone.

You're making excuses, and diminishing the seriousness of Russian actions.

The same people that aren't averse to actually shooting down commercial aircraft. 

GNSS jamming is carried out by all major militaries who deploy and have to defend against drones... around Cyprus, Turkey, Israel as well as Eastern Europe.

I have known it near US bases during exercies in the UK... don't forget the US military owns the GPS system.

20 minutes ago, Dimron said:

GNSS jamming is carried out by all major militaries who deploy and have to defend against drones... around Cyprus, Turkey, Israel as well as Eastern Europe.

I have known it near US bases during exercies in the UK... don't forget the US military owns the GPS system.

There are loads of GNSS now, folk just say GPS as it was the first.

We aren't talking about a small area that Russia is blocking/disrupting, it is hundreds of square miles of other countries airspace.

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15 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

 

 

Edited September 5, 2025Sep 5 by Dimron

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15082739/Poland-high-alert-Russian-drones-enter-airspace.html

Not the first time the odd thing has crossed over into Poland.

Iirc, one crashed into farm land in a border town a while back.

9 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Not the first time the odd thing has crossed over into Poland.

Iirc, one crashed into farm land in a border town a while back.

Reports from Poland are this wasn’t “the odd thing”.  Multiple drones going into central territory to test NATO responses? Looks like they were neutralised successfully militarily, now we’ll see what the political response is……..and who the Putin apologists are.

4 minutes ago, Bertie said:

Reports from Poland are this wasn’t “the odd thing”.  Multiple drones going into central territory to test NATO responses? Looks like they were neutralised successfully militarily, now we’ll see what the political response is……..and who the Putin apologists are.

I didn't say it was.

Have a browse on Google; you'll find references to the odd thing that crossed into Polish airspace before.

Not many, just the odd thing.

Which is all I said.

It was a risk then, and it is a bigger one now 

11 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

I didn't say it was.

Have a browse on Google; you'll find references to the odd thing that crossed into Polish airspace before.

Not many, just the odd thing.

Which is all I said.

It was a risk then, and it is a bigger one now 

Fair enough. Hard to see what Putin’s thinking here.

I wonder if Trumpy will have anything of value add, given the NATO angle. He’s previously berated Russia by saying “I’m not happy” as they attack Ukraine.  He’s upped the ante yesterday by saying “I’m not thrilled” with Israel after they bombed Doha. Votes for “I’m not content” or something equally befitting such a man of strength.

On 04/02/2024 at 19:00, Spider said:

Putin wants his legacy.

One way or another.

Hes a dangerous cunt and needs taking out.

Trump sucking Putin’s dick was just what he wanted.

Not sure how many times it needs saying, but Putin wants more than just some fields in Ukraine.

There are one or two on here who used to say it was Biden’s fault Putin invaded ukraine. That it wouldn’t have happened it trump was in charge.

So now trump is in charge, why is Putin still pulling stunts like this?

Unless, of course, the Biden narrative was complete bollocks from sun fried gobshites. Yes, let’s go with that.

Putin wanted Trump in power. 

Putin wanted to destabilise NATO.

Think those two points are rather important.

On 04/02/2024 at 19:00, Spider said:

Putin wants his legacy.

One way or another.

Hes a dangerous cunt and needs taking out.

Hope you’re not advocating going against international law. 

1 minute ago, green genie said:

Hope you’re not advocating going against international law. 

Since he’s now attacked a nato country, I believe the law allows for this.

22 minutes ago, Spider said:

Since he’s now attacked a nato country, I believe the law allows for this.

Attacked? Hardly October 7th was it?

7 minutes ago, green genie said:

Attacked? Hardly October 7th was it?

 He’s attacked a nato country.

Not sure how some yawnfest in the Middle East is connected? 🤷‍♂️

Are The Russian Drones 

not just shit Built 

Just like the Old 

V2 rocks 

 just let them go and hope for the Best 

6 hours ago, Spider said:

 He’s attacked a nato country.

Not sure how some yawnfest in the Middle East is connected? 🤷‍♂️

I was listening to an old NATO head discussing this a few months back. He said we can expect this kind of thing from Russia. Testing the boundaries. He suggested we might even expect a low level ground incursion into a very small section on NATO territory to test out willingness to respond to an article 5 call. 

I read that they were very basic unarmed decoy drones, these will have pretty simple navigation so maybe signal jamming as discussed last week took them off course?

If I was going to attack (even a small tickle) a Nato state I'd opt for something more advanced.

 

8 hours ago, Spider said:

 He’s attacked a nato country.

Not sure how some yawnfest in the Middle East is connected? 🤷‍♂️

I don't think NATO has, nor will determine that Poland was attacked. 

I've heard they have invoked article 4, and not 5.

A military expert described it as "Grey zone warfare"; testing out the adversary, possibly wishing to provoke a response, but without going to full on war.

Part of the Russian play book.

They have been doing it a lot over the last few years, and no member has yet described themselves as being attacked, and haven't invoked the big kick off.

Sooner or later though, they will need to be given a bloody nose: either by crushing their shadow tanker fleet, metaphorically speaking with secondary sanctions, or by taking out a drone launcher that sent them into Polish airspace. 

Got to stay cool, we don't want another Gulf of Tonkin incident which resulted in the Vietnam war.

However Nato need to show some "steel" and reinforce their Eastern borders... Article 5 "tit for tat" is not for us at the moment although I would imagine Ukraine,  Lithuania and the rest will be clamouring.