green genie Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 Trades are going through the supply and demand cycle with loads of people spending their covid savings on house. We're losing experienced industrial inspection and test qualified sparks back to house bashing as they can clear £500 a day . Trying to get a decent tiler to do bathroom for less than 250 a day cash is nigh on impossible. Where are those pesky Poles when you need one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimron Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 I've got almost £1m of window work to carry out on schools (green energy stuff) but all the window fitters are flat out on domestic stuff, People are still spending their covid savings and holiday money on their houses. Agree regarding the labour-only comments, getting the material is the easy bit and unless you really know whet you're about it'll be wrong/incomplete/cheap shite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted March 19, 2021 Author Site Supporter Share Posted March 19, 2021 Weird this, generally speaking I don’t add on anything for materials. Maybe a delivery fee if I'm going about collecting stuff. Will change with the clean air tax. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 Just now, Tonge moor green jacket said: Weird this, generally speaking I don’t add on anything for materials. Maybe a delivery fee if I'm going about collecting stuff. Will change with the clean air tax. How much will you charge for clean air? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted March 19, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted March 19, 2021 20 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Weird this, generally speaking I don’t add on anything for materials. Maybe a delivery fee if I'm going about collecting stuff. Will change with the clean air tax. Heating installers rely on the margin they make on kit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
athywhite1958 Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Dimron said: I've got almost £1m of window work to carry out on schools (green energy stuff) but all the window fitters are flat out on domestic stuff, People are still spending their covid savings and holiday money on their houses. Agree regarding the labour-only comments, getting the material is the easy bit and unless you really know whet you're about it'll be wrong/incomplete/cheap shite Why would it be if you get it from the same place as the tradesmen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted March 19, 2021 Author Site Supporter Share Posted March 19, 2021 38 minutes ago, Traf said: How much will you charge for clean air? £10/litre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted March 19, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted March 19, 2021 8 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: £10/litre. Mines £9/litre and I’ll throw in a can of craft ale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Spider said: Mines £9/litre and I’ll throw in a can of craft ale So, £1/litre for the air? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted March 19, 2021 Author Site Supporter Share Posted March 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Spider said: Mines £9/litre and I’ll throw in a can of craft ale You'll be waiting for the metal for your cans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 5 hours ago, green genie said: Trades are going through the supply and demand cycle with loads of people spending their covid savings on house. We're losing experienced industrial inspection and test qualified sparks back to house bashing as they can clear £500 a day . Trying to get a decent tiler to do bathroom for less than 250 a day cash is nigh on impossible. Where are those pesky Poles when you need one? Mate of mine it a tiler, he's currently charging £400 per day, and he's rammed with work - pre-Covid, he was only charging about £300 per day, so he's loving it at the minute Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimron Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 2 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Weird this, generally speaking I don’t add on anything for materials. Maybe a delivery fee if I'm going about collecting stuff. Will change with the clean air tax. As a contractor I'm used to Labour Plant & Materials then a Overhead & Profit on top of total cost. You have the risk of under-estimating your material but then you can also make cost savings on material rates and quantities. Higher Risk and Higher Profits tend to go together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimron Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 9 minutes ago, Sweep said: Mate of mine it a tiler, he's currently charging £400 per day, and he's rammed with work - pre-Covid, he was only charging about £300 per day, so he's loving it at the minute I like tiling, once set out all you have to do is keep putting one on top of the other! I keep thinking of jacking in the main contractor work and becoming a village builder, I get loads of people asking me for advice and if I know a plasterer, plumber etc. when walking the dog. I've got my own mixer and wacker plate so I'm almost there! Trouble is most home owners are totally insane and don't understand builders so I stick to the commercial stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter MickyD Posted March 19, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted March 19, 2021 9 hours ago, green genie said: Trades are going through the supply and demand cycle with loads of people spending their covid savings on house. We're losing experienced industrial inspection and test qualified sparks back to house bashing as they can clear £500 a day . Trying to get a decent tiler to do bathroom for less than 250 a day cash is nigh on impossible. Where are those pesky Poles when you need one? Is this supply & demand cycle the bit where they increase prices because they’re greedy bastards? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted March 19, 2021 Author Site Supporter Share Posted March 19, 2021 7 minutes ago, MickyD said: Is this supply & demand cycle the bit where they increase prices because they’re greedy bastards? Unfortunately, same is true for many customers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted March 19, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted March 19, 2021 1 hour ago, MickyD said: Is this supply & demand cycle the bit where they increase prices because they’re greedy bastards? Yep. Prices are going to creep up in all sorts of trades. But post-Brexit wages are due to fly so it’ll all level out. Especially once we’ve all had our TVR’s delivered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
green genie Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 4 hours ago, MickyD said: Is this supply & demand cycle the bit where they increase prices because they’re greedy bastards? Greedy cash in hand tax dodging first in line for the covid hand outs bastards to be accurate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimron Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 4 hours ago, MickyD said: Is this supply & demand cycle the bit where they increase prices because they’re greedy bastards? No Because when the country is skint and there's no work or money a brickie will work for £200 per thousand. When its all booming the rate is £700 but we all know it won't last. Building is all boom and bust, nothing about being greedy bastards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 8 minutes ago, green genie said: Greedy cash in hand tax dodging first in line for the covid hand outs bastards to be accurate. They wouldn’t have received covid handouts if they hadn’t paid tax. JSL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimron Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 15 minutes ago, green genie said: Greedy cash in hand tax dodging first in line for the covid hand outs bastards to be accurate. So why is it so important to keep construction going through the pandemic? Because we pay our taxes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Dimron said: So why is it so important to keep construction going through the pandemic? Because we pay our taxes Nothing to do with that and if you think it is I’m totally befuddled Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimron Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 Construction is an investment industry No investment, No construction We are major employers and contribute massively towards the economy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Dimron said: Construction is an investment industry No investment, No construction We are major employers and contribute massively towards the economy. Which is it? The above or you as construction workers pay your taxes? and thanks for the lesson as well. Next time your in Manchester let me know and I will highlight the mass developments I provided the funding for in my old job 😎 Edited March 19, 2021 by Escobarp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 Oh and I’m shit at diy and tradesmen are in the main robbing cunts. A good honest one is worth his weight on gold we were lucky and used some great ones who had done the extension at the in laws Great job and worth the money for sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimron Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 Sorry mate, spend your time arguing elsewhere. I've got WORK in the morning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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