DazBob Posted November 24, 2023 Posted November 24, 2023 Why are so many on here so reluctant to say Israel are guilty of being a bit cuntish? Everyone on here thinks Hamas are cunts and I've not seen anyone say anything otherwise, but when it comes to Israel there's a fair few won't say a single bad thing about them. ... or do they think by doing so they'd find themselves suddenly shitting in bins and throwing poo water everywhere? Quote
mickbrown Posted November 24, 2023 Posted November 24, 2023 8 minutes ago, DazBob said: Why are so many on here so reluctant to say Israel are guilty of being a bit cuntish? Everyone on here thinks Hamas are cunts and I've not seen anyone say anything otherwise, but when it comes to Israel there's a fair few won't say a single bad thing about them. ... or do they think by doing so they'd find themselves suddenly shitting in bins and throwing poo water everywhere? Because they’ve taken a side. As with a lot of issues, there’s no space or time for nuance or critical thinking. Just a constant desire to view very complicated situations as binary. Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted November 24, 2023 Posted November 24, 2023 2 hours ago, DazBob said: Why are so many on here so reluctant to say Israel are guilty of being a bit cuntish? Everyone on here thinks Hamas are cunts and I've not seen anyone say anything otherwise, but when it comes to Israel there's a fair few won't say a single bad thing about them. ... or do they think by doing so they'd find themselves suddenly shitting in bins and throwing poo water everywhere? Not sure anyone has claimed Israel hasn't done some seriously bad things. They've been under the spotlight for some considerable time in the public eye, and also politically; over the decades there have been many attempts by American leaders to help bring peace to the region, and that has included statements and pressure on them. How effective that pressure has been is debatable, and criticism has been justifiably lodged. Once again, just going over the same ground though; they've been at each other for hundreds of years, and this is yet another flare up. Given the events last month, Israel was always going to respond heavily. It is a war, and unfortunately people die. It is notable how little has been made of the fact that Western aid had funded Hamas, both directly and indirectly. Quote
royal white Posted November 24, 2023 Posted November 24, 2023 1 minute ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Not sure anyone has claimed Israel hasn't done some seriously bad things. They've been under the spotlight for some considerable time in the public eye, and also politically; over the decades there have been many attempts by American leaders to help bring peace to the region, and that has included statements and pressure on them. How effective that pressure has been is debatable, and criticism has been justifiably lodged. Once again, just going over the same ground though; they've been at each other for hundreds of years, and this is yet another flare up. Given the events last month, Israel was always going to respond heavily. It is a war, and unfortunately people die. It is notable how little has been made of the fact that Western aid had funded Hamas, both directly and indirectly. You will be ridiculed for saying that Quote
Mounts Kipper Posted November 24, 2023 Posted November 24, 2023 3 hours ago, DazBob said: Why are so many on here so reluctant to say Israel are guilty of being a bit cuntish? Everyone on here thinks Hamas are cunts and I've not seen anyone say anything otherwise, but when it comes to Israel there's a fair few won't say a single bad thing about them. ... or do they think by doing so they'd find themselves suddenly shitting in bins and throwing poo water everywhere? It’s no surprise they are cuntish given they’ve been targeted for 1000s of years. Quote
Sweep Posted November 24, 2023 Posted November 24, 2023 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: It’s no surprise they are cuntish given they’ve been targeted for 1000s of years. Perhaps they're the problem...... 💣 Edited November 24, 2023 by Sweep Quote
DazBob Posted November 24, 2023 Posted November 24, 2023 1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Not sure anyone has claimed Israel hasn't done some seriously bad things. There's a difference between saying they haven't done some cuntish things and not actually saying they have done some cuntish things. Quote
Sweep Posted November 24, 2023 Posted November 24, 2023 43 minutes ago, DazBob said: There's a difference between saying they haven't done some cuntish things and not actually saying they have done some cuntish things. to me, both sides are utter arseholes. Whilst many people, on both sides, who have lost their lives are innocent, I think it's safe to say that their "leaders" have hugely let them down, over the years, by acting the cunt Quote
mickbrown Posted November 24, 2023 Posted November 24, 2023 36 minutes ago, Sweep said: to me, both sides are utter arseholes. Whilst many people, on both sides, who have lost their lives are innocent, I think it's safe to say that their "leaders" have hugely let them down, over the years, by acting the cunt Yeah but……. Quote
London Wanderer Posted November 24, 2023 Posted November 24, 2023 2 hours ago, Mounts Kipper said: It’s no surprise they are cuntish given they’ve been targeted for 1000s of years. With logic like that you must sympathise with the Palestinian orphans that join Hamas then? To be fair to your point, it’s no surprise that the something as brutal as the Holocaust would give rise to a nation that would stop at nothing to prevent it ever happening again. Quote
London Wanderer Posted November 24, 2023 Posted November 24, 2023 3 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Not sure anyone has claimed Israel hasn't done some seriously bad things. They've been under the spotlight for some considerable time in the public eye, and also politically; over the decades there have been many attempts by American leaders to help bring peace to the region, and that has included statements and pressure on them. How effective that pressure has been is debatable, and criticism has been justifiably lodged. Once again, just going over the same ground though; they've been at each other for hundreds of years, and this is yet another flare up. Given the events last month, Israel was always going to respond heavily. It is a war, and unfortunately people die. It is notable how little has been made of the fact that Western aid had funded Hamas, both directly and indirectly. Or how little we know about Israel’s role in creating Hamas… Quote
London Wanderer Posted November 24, 2023 Posted November 24, 2023 Anyway Enough of that. Will there be a solitary ceasefire on here for the weekend. Happy to talk about Mushy Peas again & the football finally being back. Quote
Spider Posted November 24, 2023 Posted November 24, 2023 54 minutes ago, London Wanderer said: With logic like that you must sympathise with the Palestinian orphans that join Hamas then? To be fair to your point, it’s no surprise that the something as brutal as the Holocaust would give rise to a nation that would stop at nothing to prevent it ever happening again. And there lies the Israeli psyche in a nutshell. They’re still barely a single generation from someone trying to wipe them out completely. Completely. Gone. Erased from history. If you want to get an idea of how long a war can linger in a national psyche, look no further than your nearest cenotaph. Or Miami’s twitter feed. Quote
London Wanderer Posted November 24, 2023 Posted November 24, 2023 1 minute ago, Spider said: And there lies the Israeli psyche in a nutshell. They’re still barely a single generation from someone trying to wipe them out completely. Completely. Gone. Erased from history. If you want to get an idea of how long a war can linger in a national psyche, look no further than your nearest cenotaph. Or Miami’s twitter feed. haha 👍 Quote
Zico Posted November 24, 2023 Posted November 24, 2023 1 hour ago, London Wanderer said: With logic like that you must sympathise with the Palestinian orphans that join Hamas then? To be fair to your point, it’s no surprise that the something as brutal as the Holocaust would give rise to a nation that would stop at nothing to prevent it ever happening again. 4 minutes ago, Spider said: And there lies the Israeli psyche in a nutshell. They’re still barely a single generation from someone trying to wipe them out completely. Completely. Gone. Erased from history. If you want to get an idea of how long a war can linger in a national psyche, look no further than your nearest cenotaph. Or Miami’s twitter feed. You'd think though there would an element of empathy off the back of what happened to them and strive not to let it happen again, ie target a set of people and aim to wipe them out Whereas they immediately decided to proceed with moving back into Israel and wiping out the existing residents Almost as though it makes amends, levels thing up, eye for an eye The war on terror is hard enough when you're fighting an ideology But when it's ideology v ideology what hope is there for an amicable outcome and long lasting peace Fuck all Quote
Spider Posted November 24, 2023 Posted November 24, 2023 3 minutes ago, Zico said: You'd think though there would an element of empathy off the back of what happened to them and strive not to let it happen again, ie target a set of people and aim to wipe them out Whereas they immediately decided to proceed with moving back into Israel and wiping out the existing residents Almost as though it makes amends, levels thing up, eye for an eye The war on terror is hard enough when you're fighting an ideology But when it's ideology v ideology what hope is there for an amicable outcome and long lasting peace Fuck all Totally agree Im just saying that it’s easy to understand why the Israelis are the way they are. Extreme Islam is different and has found an easy and willing population in Palestine. Its a fckin mess Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted November 25, 2023 Posted November 25, 2023 A freer hand! Some serious delusion amongst senior politicians all over. Quote
bolty58 Posted November 26, 2023 Posted November 26, 2023 On 24/11/2023 at 04:40, Zico said: Have you read that amnesty article? Your major error. Right there. As woke and left wing an organisation you could find. I believe nothing which I hear from them just as I won't believe anything Hamas would say about Israel bombing hospitals. Quote
bolty58 Posted November 26, 2023 Posted November 26, 2023 On 24/11/2023 at 17:05, Ani said: Glad someone noticed it is nignogs not nognigs. Shit! Thanks pal. Approaching the festive season I read it as egg nogs. Fucking hell. Quote
bolty58 Posted November 26, 2023 Posted November 26, 2023 On 24/11/2023 at 21:20, Sweep said: Perhaps they're the problem...... 💣 Fancy a beer hall putsch matey? You sound like you'd be just the job. Quote
Lt. Aldo Raine Posted November 26, 2023 Posted November 26, 2023 I see there were further calls for "Muslim armies" yesterday There won't be many referring to them as far-right, though Quote
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