Is it kicking off big time or is this just everyday stuff they deal with or a bit of both?

 

8 minutes ago, DazBob said:

Why are so many on here so reluctant to say Israel are guilty of being a bit cuntish?  

Everyone on here thinks Hamas are cunts and I've not seen anyone say anything otherwise, but when it comes to Israel there's a fair few won't say a single bad thing about them. 

... or do they think by doing so they'd find themselves suddenly shitting in bins and throwing poo water everywhere?

Because they’ve taken a side. 
 

As with a lot of issues, there’s no space or time for nuance or critical thinking. Just a constant desire to view very complicated situations as binary. 

2 hours ago, DazBob said:

Why are so many on here so reluctant to say Israel are guilty of being a bit cuntish?  

Everyone on here thinks Hamas are cunts and I've not seen anyone say anything otherwise, but when it comes to Israel there's a fair few won't say a single bad thing about them. 

... or do they think by doing so they'd find themselves suddenly shitting in bins and throwing poo water everywhere?

Not sure anyone has claimed Israel hasn't done some seriously bad things.

They've been under the spotlight for some considerable time in the public eye, and also politically; over the decades there have been many attempts by American leaders to help bring peace to the region, and that has included statements and pressure on them.

How effective that pressure has been is debatable, and criticism has been justifiably lodged.

Once again, just going over the same ground though; they've been at each other for hundreds of years, and this is yet another flare up.

Given the events last month, Israel was always going to respond heavily. It is a war, and unfortunately people die.

It is notable how little has been made of the fact that Western aid had funded Hamas, both directly and indirectly. 

 

1 minute ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Not sure anyone has claimed Israel hasn't done some seriously bad things.

They've been under the spotlight for some considerable time in the public eye, and also politically; over the decades there have been many attempts by American leaders to help bring peace to the region, and that has included statements and pressure on them.

How effective that pressure has been is debatable, and criticism has been justifiably lodged.

Once again, just going over the same ground though; they've been at each other for hundreds of years, and this is yet another flare up.

Given the events last month, Israel was always going to respond heavily. It is a war, and unfortunately people die.

It is notable how little has been made of the fact that Western aid had funded Hamas, both directly and indirectly. 

 

You will be ridiculed for saying that

3 hours ago, DazBob said:

Why are so many on here so reluctant to say Israel are guilty of being a bit cuntish?  

Everyone on here thinks Hamas are cunts and I've not seen anyone say anything otherwise, but when it comes to Israel there's a fair few won't say a single bad thing about them. 

... or do they think by doing so they'd find themselves suddenly shitting in bins and throwing poo water everywhere?

It’s no surprise they are cuntish given they’ve been targeted for 1000s of years. 

18 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

It’s no surprise they are cuntish given they’ve been targeted for 1000s of years. 

Perhaps they're the problem...... 

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Edited November 24, 20232 yr by Sweep

1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Not sure anyone has claimed Israel hasn't done some seriously bad things.

 

There's a difference between saying they haven't done some cuntish things and not actually saying they have done some cuntish things.

43 minutes ago, DazBob said:

There's a difference between saying they haven't done some cuntish things and not actually saying they have done some cuntish things.

to me, both sides are utter arseholes. Whilst many people, on both sides, who have lost their lives are innocent, I think it's safe to say that their "leaders" have hugely let them down, over the years, by acting the cunt

36 minutes ago, Sweep said:

to me, both sides are utter arseholes. Whilst many people, on both sides, who have lost their lives are innocent, I think it's safe to say that their "leaders" have hugely let them down, over the years, by acting the cunt

Yeah but…….

2 hours ago, Mounts Kipper said:

It’s no surprise they are cuntish given they’ve been targeted for 1000s of years. 

With logic like that you must sympathise with the Palestinian orphans that join Hamas then? 
 

To be fair to your point, it’s no surprise that the something as brutal as the Holocaust would give rise to a nation that would stop at nothing to prevent it ever happening again. 

3 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Not sure anyone has claimed Israel hasn't done some seriously bad things.

They've been under the spotlight for some considerable time in the public eye, and also politically; over the decades there have been many attempts by American leaders to help bring peace to the region, and that has included statements and pressure on them.

How effective that pressure has been is debatable, and criticism has been justifiably lodged.

Once again, just going over the same ground though; they've been at each other for hundreds of years, and this is yet another flare up.

Given the events last month, Israel was always going to respond heavily. It is a war, and unfortunately people die.

It is notable how little has been made of the fact that Western aid had funded Hamas, both directly and indirectly. 

 

Or how little we know about Israel’s role in creating Hamas…

Anyway

Enough of that.

Will there be a solitary ceasefire on here for the weekend.

 Happy to talk about Mushy Peas again & the football finally being back.

54 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

With logic like that you must sympathise with the Palestinian orphans that join Hamas then? 
 

To be fair to your point, it’s no surprise that the something as brutal as the Holocaust would give rise to a nation that would stop at nothing to prevent it ever happening again. 

And there lies the Israeli psyche in a nutshell.

They’re still barely a single generation from someone trying to wipe them out completely. Completely. Gone. Erased from history.

If you want to get an idea of how long a war can linger in a national psyche, look no further than your nearest cenotaph.

Or Miami’s twitter feed.

 

1 minute ago, Spider said:

And there lies the Israeli psyche in a nutshell.

They’re still barely a single generation from someone trying to wipe them out completely. Completely. Gone. Erased from history.

If you want to get an idea of how long a war can linger in a national psyche, look no further than your nearest cenotaph.

Or Miami’s twitter feed.

 

haha

👍

1 hour ago, London Wanderer said:

With logic like that you must sympathise with the Palestinian orphans that join Hamas then? 
 

To be fair to your point, it’s no surprise that the something as brutal as the Holocaust would give rise to a nation that would stop at nothing to prevent it ever happening again. 

 

4 minutes ago, Spider said:

And there lies the Israeli psyche in a nutshell.

They’re still barely a single generation from someone trying to wipe them out completely. Completely. Gone. Erased from history.

If you want to get an idea of how long a war can linger in a national psyche, look no further than your nearest cenotaph.

Or Miami’s twitter feed.

 

You'd think though there would an element of empathy off the back of what happened to them and strive not to let it happen again, ie target a set of people and aim to wipe them out

Whereas they immediately decided to proceed with moving back into Israel and wiping out the existing residents 

Almost as though it makes amends, levels thing up, eye for an eye 

The war on terror is hard enough when you're fighting an ideology 

But when it's ideology v ideology what hope is there for an amicable outcome and long lasting peace 

Fuck all

3 minutes ago, Zico said:

 

You'd think though there would an element of empathy off the back of what happened to them and strive not to let it happen again, ie target a set of people and aim to wipe them out

Whereas they immediately decided to proceed with moving back into Israel and wiping out the existing residents 

Almost as though it makes amends, levels thing up, eye for an eye 

The war on terror is hard enough when you're fighting an ideology 

But when it's ideology v ideology what hope is there for an amicable outcome and long lasting peace 

Fuck all

Totally agree

Im just saying that it’s easy to understand why the Israelis are the way they are.

Extreme Islam is different and has found an easy and willing population in Palestine.

Its a fckin mess

Deary me

 

A freer hand! 

Some serious delusion amongst senior politicians all over.

On 24/11/2023 at 04:40, Zico said:

 

Have you read that amnesty article? 

 

Your major error. Right there.

As woke and left wing an organisation you could find. I believe nothing which I hear from them just as I won't believe anything Hamas would say about Israel bombing hospitals.

On 24/11/2023 at 17:05, Ani said:

Glad someone noticed it is nignogs not nognigs. 

Shit! Thanks pal. Approaching the festive season I read it as egg nogs. Fucking hell.

On 24/11/2023 at 21:20, Sweep said:

Perhaps they're the problem...... 

💣

Fancy a beer hall putsch matey? You sound like you'd be just the job.

I see there were further calls for "Muslim armies" yesterday

There won't be many referring to them as far-right, though

"Lost"

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

4 hours ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

"Lost"

 

Heard about this earlier.

I'd like to think it was an innocent, if naive use of language.

Though he does have recent form for similar.

He may be trying not to upset some folk, and maybe the interpretation might be a bit over-sensitive, but whatever his motivation, it's not working.