Meanwhile in Israel

[London Wanderer]

8 hours ago, wanderer1984 said:

But ... but .. Tommy was arrested for attending.

Must have been some disorder?

Over in palestine folk are chopped up while civilians celebrate. 

I’ve literally spent the past few posts praising the organisers of this demo for making it peaceful and not welcoming idiots into their midst 🤣 Christ

[London Wanderer]

4 minutes ago, royal white said:

@London Wanderer 👆🏻

I never commented on the police’s decision to arrest him & whether it was right or wrong.

 The policing bill is a whole new discussion.

Only comparing the organisers of the pro Palestine to the organisers of the antisemitism one.

 I’m actually giving credit where it’s due and pointing out an agreement with other posters views on the difference between the posters. 

 You’re clearly just on the look out for another row and point scoring contest, so I’ll leave you to it mate 😂 enjoy your week 

 

[royal white]

2 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

I never commented on the police’s decision to arrest him & whether it was right or wrong.

 The policing bill is a whole new discussion.

Only comparing the organisers of the pro Palestine to the organisers of the antisemitism one.

 I’m actually giving credit where it’s due and pointing out an agreement with other posters views on the difference between the posters. 

 You’re clearly just on the look out for another row and point scoring contest, so I’ll leave you to it mate 😂 enjoy your week 

 

So an organiser of a demo gets to pick and choose who should be able to attend 😂😂 good one. 
 

👍

[wanderer1984]

8 hours ago, Zico said:

 

 

Also

Metropolitan Police spokesman said: “The arrested man resisted as officers attempted to put him in handcuffs. He was warned repeatedly before PAVA spray was used. Following its use, officers gained control of him and handcuffs were applied.”

 

In an earlier statement, the force said organisers had “been clear about their concerns that the man’s attendance, and that of those who were likely to accompany him, would cause fear for other participants.

 

“The same view has been voiced by others. As a result he was spoken to and warned on more than one occasion that his continued presence in the area was likely to cause harassment, alarm and distress to others. He was directed to leave the area but refused to do so.”

 

Cheers Zico.

So his presence in a public place and  refusing to leave got him arrested.

All because a few at a public demonstration didn't want him there.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

1 hour ago, Spider said:

I seem to recall protests being organised for the Kings Coronation.

There was a right ding dong on here about how those protests should be managed.

Many said the protestors should be free to go where they pleased so long as it didn’t disturb the coronation route (I’d need to go back for precise details). In essence, the protesters should not be subjected to any police intervention.

I got hammered when I suggested the protest be controlled by police as far away as possible. That the police working to prevent any flashpoints was somehow in infringement of civil liberties.

It’s the same with Tommy. I think he should be kept away from protests as he’s a clear and obvious incitement risk.

But you can’t have it both ways. If you are happy for anti-royal protests to be given their space and no harsh policing, you should be happy for Robinson to be front and centre as well.

No hypocrisy, lads.

I think you are correct.

The only thing I'd question yesterday, is whether TR's presence would have caused an issue within the marchers?

Perhaps so, as it was very much associated with stopping antisemitism, and they didn't want the distraction that a view of anti-islam was being tolerated.

Anyway, we saw how a protest should proceed. 

[Zico]

54 minutes ago, wanderer1984 said:

Cheers Zico.

So his presence in a public place and  refusing to leave got him arrested.

All because a few at a public demonstration didn't want him there.

aye

see it every home game

a group of young lads gather by the away end exit at the end of each game

the police come along and tell them to move on, most of the time they resist or are awkward about, then it gets a bit more heavy handed and if they really resist it gets a bit pushy and shouty

the lads might argue they are just stood around waiting

but aaway fans occasionally get whacked if the lads are able to get away with it

anyway, there was no reason for a far right anti islam protester with a history of causing disturbances should turn up an a peaceful antisemitism protest, they asked him not to come, but he did anyway, so fuck him

[Sweep]

1 hour ago, Zico said:

 

anyway, there was no reason for a far right anti islam protester with a history of causing disturbances should turn up an a peaceful antisemitism protest, they asked him not to come, but he did anyway, so fuck him

Correct, he really had no need to be there, he knew it would cause some sort of angst  - still, his "supporters" will probably cough up even more money to him now, as he's "the voice of the silent majority" and should be supported etc

[Zico]

[Traf]

13 hours ago, wanderer1984 said:

Why was the police order in place?

To prevent a potential breach of the peace.

Robinson is an attention-seeking fuckwit.

21 hours ago, wanderer1984 said:

Hope this is fake.

 

 

 

That's taking "snitches get stitches" to a whole new level.

[DirtySanchez]

2 hours ago, Sweep said:

Correct, he really had no need to be there, he knew it would cause some sort of angst  - still, his "supporters" will probably cough up even more money to him now, as he's "the voice of the silent majority" and should be supported etc

It's odd how the likes of him and Trump, probably claim to be a man of the people, get their supporters to cough up when they get in a mess of their own doing 

Edited November 27, 2023 by DirtySanchez

[London Wanderer]

5 hours ago, royal white said:

So an organiser of a demo gets to pick and choose who should be able to attend 😂😂 good one. 
 

👍

Not at all, not what I said 👍 it’s not about picking and choosing, they can’t physically prevent people from attending. It’s about distancing yourselves from the wrong kind of people. Something the Pro Palestine movement could have been a bit better at. 

See TMJs post from earlier 👍

“Perhaps so, as it was very much associated with stopping antisemitism, and they didn't want the distraction that a view of anti-islam was being tolerated.”

Bit strange all this, as you’ve been making similar points about the Palestine protests. But you just love a good argument 😁

[mickbrown]

4 hours ago, Zico said:

aye

see it every home game

a group of young lads gather by the away end exit at the end of each game

the police come along and tell them to move on, most of the time they resist or are awkward about, then it gets a bit more heavy handed and if they really resist it gets a bit pushy and shouty

the lads might argue they are just stood around waiting

but aaway fans occasionally get whacked if the lads are able to get away with it

anyway, there was no reason for a far right anti islam protester with a history of causing disturbances should turn up an a peaceful antisemitism protest, they asked him not to come, but he did anyway, so fuck him

Exactly. It’s not difficult lads. 

[Ani]

So.....Folk organise a protest in the London, they are obliged to inform the police. As part of that process they say they do not want TR there. They are either concerned it will cause trouble or distract from the event. (Dunno if there is another reason)
So the event goes ahead and TR turns up, the Police approach him in a cafe and say he is not allowed to attend the March and is given a dispersal notice. TR says he is there as a journalist so he is not there to join the rally but to report on it. TR is asked for proof he is a journalist, any type of accreditation (pretty sure he ain't a Union Man so no NUJ card) he has no accreditation other than saying he works for Rebel Media. Police therefore enforce the dispersal order he refuses to go and is arrested. Is that a fair summary ? 
 

[royal white]

1 hour ago, London Wanderer said:

Not at all, not what I said 👍 it’s not about picking and choosing, they can’t physically prevent people from attending. It’s about distancing yourselves from the wrong kind of people. Something the Pro Palestine movement could have been a bit better at. 

See TMJs post from earlier 👍

“Perhaps so, as it was very much associated with stopping antisemitism, and they didn't want the distraction that a view of anti-islam was being tolerated.”

Bit strange all this, as you’ve been making similar points about the Palestine protests. But you just love a good argument 😁

What similar points was I making? Your points were about the freedom to march but obviously not if it’s TR 😂

[London Wanderer]

1 hour ago, royal white said:

What similar points was I making? Your points were about the freedom to march but obviously not if it’s TR 😂

That the pro Palestine marchers didn’t seem very good at calling out any hate at their demos. Did you not say a similar thing or have I misquoted ya? 

The other demo yesterday showed them how it’s done.

 I’ve told you what my point was about yesterdays events… I never said Tommy has no right freedom of expression 👍 You’re very welcome to keep putting words in my mouth though & trying to relate it to something I said weeks ago, whatever makes you happy ❤️

Edited November 27, 2023 by London Wanderer

[royal white]

38 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

That the pro Palestine marchers didn’t seem very good at calling out any hate at their demos. Did you not say a similar thing or have I misquoted ya? 

The other demo yesterday showed them how it’s done.

 I’ve told you what my point was about yesterdays events… I never said Tommy has no right freedom of expression 👍 You’re very welcome to keep putting words in my mouth though & trying to relate it to something I said weeks ago, whatever makes you happy ❤️

But what points have I been saying about TR that you’re comparing them to? 

[London Wanderer]

2 hours ago, royal white said:

But what points have I been saying about TR that you’re comparing them to? 

Eh

I’ve told you what I meant when I said you’ve made similar points.

That you’ve also made the point that the Palestine marches haven’t been much good at ‘calling out’ the bad elements. Did you not say something similar?

 

[Zico]

I'm just a fan Tommy 

Your biggest fan 

 

 

[royal white]

5 minutes ago, Zico said:

I'm just a fan Tommy 

Your biggest fan 

 

 

Fkinell who are you following on Twitter 🙄😉

Edited November 27, 2023 by royal white

[wanderer1984]

1 hour ago, Zico said:

I'm just a fan Tommy 

Your biggest fan 

 

 

 

Jesus 😂

What the fuck is that! Looks nothing like the bloke 😂

Not a fan of tattoos anyway but that is horrendous

Edited November 27, 2023 by wanderer1984

[Traf]

8 hours ago, Ani said:

So.....Folk organise a protest in the London, they are obliged to inform the police. As part of that process they say they do not want TR there. They are either concerned it will cause trouble or distract from the event. (Dunno if there is another reason)
So the event goes ahead and TR turns up, the Police approach him in a cafe and say he is not allowed to attend the March and is given a dispersal notice. TR says he is there as a journalist so he is not there to join the rally but to report on it. TR is asked for proof he is a journalist, any type of accreditation (pretty sure he ain't a Union Man so no NUJ card) he has no accreditation other than saying he works for Rebel Media. Police therefore enforce the dispersal order he refuses to go and is arrested. Is that a fair summary ? 
 

That's about the sum of it.

[deeane Koontz]

Has tommeh gone around with his online begging bowl yet? 😭

[bolty58]

19 hours ago, Zico said:

Why did you put far right in quotes? Do you not think it's applicable to Tommy Robinson? 

 

It's the new 'racist' innit. Designed to shut down debate. Like the other one, it won't work.

Labelling protesting mums and dads outside illegal immigrant hostels close to their homes as 'far right' is a fucking joke. Concerned about the welfare of their children. 'Far right'. Reet.

[bolty58]

19 hours ago, Zico said:

Who do you think is pro Hamas?

Who do you think isn't? 

[Zico]

7 hours ago, bolty58 said:

Who do you think isn't? 

 

anyone posting in support of Hamas will be banned