Is it kicking off big time or is this just everyday stuff they deal with or a bit of both?

 

somebody said yesterday that bad things happen, its war

if we wake up tomorrow and israel has been obliterated with the deaths of 10s of thousands of kids, i guarantee the same shit won't be trotted out

nethanayu is a very dangerous individual - needs taking out

33 minutes ago, Casino said:

somebody said yesterday that bad things happen, its war

if we wake up tomorrow and israel has been obliterated with the deaths of 10s of thousands of kids, i guarantee the same shit won't be trotted out

nethanayu is a very dangerous individual - needs taking out

Obliterated? 
9.3 million people. That is a bad thing. 
Taking out? Like assassination?

 

3 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

Obliterated? 
9.3 million people. That is a bad thing. 
Taking out? Like assassination?

 

75% of the Palestine population have been displaced with thousands killed or wounded. Is that not a bad thing? Where is the threshold for killing innocent people? 

22 minutes ago, Farrelli said:

75% of the Palestine population have been displaced with thousands killed or wounded. Is that not a bad thing? Where is the threshold for killing innocent people? 

Yes it’s a bad thing. When Hamas are gone, hopefully they can all go back and the building of a Palestinian State can be established in Gaza. 
I don’t know what the threshold is. Fortunately, I don’t have to make those decisions. 

34 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

Obliterated? 
9.3 million people. That is a bad thing. 
 

 

all about degrees isnt it

when does it stop being bad things happen

35 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

Taking out? Like assassination?

 

yeah, why not

its OK for the IDF

21 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

Yes it’s a bad thing. When Hamas are gone, hopefully they can all go back and the building of a Palestinian State can be established in Gaza. 
I don’t know what the threshold is. Fortunately, I don’t have to make those decisions. 

They dont have to obliterate the whole area to create a Palestinian state. It needs a ceasefire and then diplomacy. The present Israel actions are generating more support for Hamas not destroying it.  

4 hours ago, BobyBrno said:

Firing thousands of rockets, indiscriminately into Israel, isn’t resistance, it’s aggression. Terrorist aggression. As you say nobody on here can sit back and say they wouldn’t resist. Unless it’s Israel though it seems. 
I support Palestine. I don’t support Hamas. Many Palestinians don’t support Hamas. Many, many Lebanese don’t support Hezbollah. It’s one of the reasons that the Israelis have such good intelligence on its leaders and their whereabouts. 

Aye. Fwiw I haven’t criticised Israel’s recent actions in Lebanon, as grim as it is for the innocent victims, they have a right to self defence & to go after Hezbollah. 

But thinking the current Israeli government have any desire for a Palestinian state after they’ve gone after Hamas is nonsense. These are one of the most extremist governments Israel has ever had. With violent settlers sitting right at the top. They bear as much responsibility for the recent escalation as Hamas do. They’re both as bad as each other. 
 

Maybe it’s for the rest of the world to draw the borders & return some of the stolen land. 

16 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

Aye. Fwiw I haven’t criticised Israel’s recent actions in Lebanon, as grim as it is for the innocent victims, they have a right to self defence & to go after Hezbollah. 

But thinking the current Israeli government have any desire for a Palestinian state after they’ve gone after Hamas is nonsense. These are one of the most extremist governments Israel has ever had. With violent settlers sitting right at the top. They bear as much responsibility for the recent escalation as Hamas do. They’re both as bad as each other. 
 

Maybe it’s for the rest of the world to draw the borders & return some of the stolen land. 

I posted the report from 12 months ago and the nearing of an agreement about normalisation. The quote below is from the Palestinian side. It was far from conclusive but much nearer than they are now. It could have saved thousands of lives but we will never know. 

Ahmad Deeq, of the Palestinian foreign ministry, told Radio Nas: “The Saudis have told us in closed-door meetings and openly that they will [demand] an agreement that is based on the establishment of a sovereign Palestinian state.”

14 hours ago, DazBob said:

Who on here is pro Palestine?

I am

I think they should be allowed to get on with it without Israel coming in and giving them shit

I am pro Israel civilians that they too should be able to get on with it without their neighbours giving them shit

I am anti Hamas and anti Israel Government / IDF - there is no justification for the actions of either

 

1 hour ago, BobyBrno said:

I posted the report from 12 months ago and the nearing of an agreement about normalisation. The quote below is from the Palestinian side. It was far from conclusive but much nearer than they are now. It could have saved thousands of lives but we will never know. 

Ahmad Deeq, of the Palestinian foreign ministry, told Radio Nas: “The Saudis have told us in closed-door meetings and openly that they will [demand] an agreement that is based on the establishment of a sovereign Palestinian state.”

Not sure that Saudi Arabia demanding a sovereign state for Palestine is evidence Israel wants one.

 Here’s what the leader of Israel said recently

https://www.timesofisrael.com/netanyahu-boasts-of-thwarting-the-establishment-of-a-palestinian-state-for-decades/amp/

This was his mindset way before October 7th.

Not sure how you negotiate with a government as extremist as this one? They have no desire to let them govern, let aloe return the land that was illegally stolen.

As I said, both sides are as bad as each other

Could they not just stop killing each other and have a penalty shoot out instead?

winner gets the land, loser has to go and set up home in Australia or Canada, somewhere with fucking loads of space they can have?

Take all your religious paraphernalia with you, like they did with London Bridge.

Instead of all wanting to live on the same half acre of land like a load of bickering fucking pikeys.

3 hours ago, Spider said:

Could they not just stop killing each other and have a penalty shoot out instead?

winner gets the land, loser has to go and set up home in Australia or Canada, somewhere with fucking loads of space they can have?

Take all your religious paraphernalia with you, like they did with London Bridge.

Instead of all wanting to live on the same half acre of land like a load of bickering fucking pikeys.

Would Israel fit on the Isle of White? They can have that! I'm not planning on going there anytime soon and I was never a fan of Bergerac. 

And think of all the free bagels! 

15 hours ago, Blondi said:

Thought you had to wear a helmet in Ayia Napa anyway?

I don't think he meant that helmet.

11 hours ago, Casino said:

all about degrees isnt it

when does it stop being bad things happen

yeah, why not

its OK for the IDF

So you are in favour of elected leaders of democratic countries being assassinated? Or just Jewish ones? FFS.

11 hours ago, kent_white said:

Would Israel fit on the Isle of White? They can have that! I'm not planning on going there anytime soon and I was never a fan of Bergerac. 

And think of all the free bagels! 

Jersey/Guernsey wasn't it?

Anyway, I'd be all for shoving on the Falkland Islands, that should help keep the Argies at bay.

3 hours ago, Sweep said:

Jersey/Guernsey wasn't it?

Oh yeah! 🤣

14 hours ago, kent_white said:

Would Israel fit on the Isle of White? They can have that! I'm not planning on going there anytime soon and I was never a fan of Bergerac. 

And think of all the free bagels! 

Brilliant theme music though

A memorial for the victims of 7th October is just too much

 

3 hours ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

A memorial for the victims of 7th October is just too much

 

Why can't they commerorate all the victims of the massacres in this war?

Anyway, assuming it's a Jewish only school it should be up to them 

Be interesting to know if this bit is true 

children were allegedly reprimanded for showing solidarity with victims of the Gaza genocide. 

I give up

51 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

I give up

i did about 6 months ago on this one

5 hours ago, Zico said:

Why can't they commerorate all the victims of the massacres in this war?

Anyway, assuming it's a Jewish only school it should be up to them 

Be interesting to know if this bit is true 

children were allegedly reprimanded for showing solidarity with victims of the Gaza genocide. 

Aren’t there Muslim kids attending as well? If the latter is true, then parents are entitled to complain if there’s not a memorial for both groups who’ve been massacred.

Things always get skewed when the media gets involved in schools stuff though.

Our council guidance was not to get involved in either side when it came to conflict. Seems fair enough. 

11 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

Aren’t there Muslim kids attending as well? If the latter is true, then parents are entitled to complain if there’s not a memorial for both groups who’ve been massacred.

Things always get skewed when the media gets involved in schools stuff though.

Our council guidance was not to get involved in either side when it came to conflict. Seems fair enough. 

Who gives a fuck either way? Whether the Jewish pupils want to hold a vigil for murdererd Israelis, or the Muslim pupils want to hold a vigil for murdered Palestinians, or a mixed bunch of them want to hold a vigil for those murdered on both sides, or anything in between, let them crack on. It hurts nobody. Anybody complaining about it from either side or no side is a twat.

Edited September 27, 20241 yr by Cheese

19 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

Aren’t there Muslim kids attending as well? If the latter is true, then parents are entitled to complain if there’s not a memorial for both groups who’ve been massacred.

Things always get skewed when the media gets involved in schools stuff though.

Our council guidance was not to get involved in either side when it came to conflict. Seems fair enough. 

There are anti Israel (antisemitic) marches every weekend throughout the country.
A Jewish school, remembering mainly Jewish people in a massacre by anti Jewish terrorists on its first anniversary seems very reasonable to me. 
 

Edit. Anti Israel is not antisemitic but many of the marchers are. 

Edited September 27, 20241 yr by BobyBrno

24 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

Aren’t there Muslim kids attending as well? If the latter is true, then parents are entitled to complain if there’s not a memorial for both groups who’ve been massacred.

Things always get skewed when the media gets involved in schools stuff though.

Our council guidance was not to get involved in either side when it came to conflict. Seems fair enough. 

It is a Jewish school though. 

I agree about staying away from certain things; they are perhaps unnecessary in a child's education (leave it to parents) but whilst we have religious schools, then it shouldn't surprise folk if they have their own "faith events".