7 minutes ago, Cheese said:

So Putin invaded Ukraine because the Pentagon wanted to point missiles at Iran? Can you expand on this, or post a source?

Not sure he's saying it was because of de facto.

All part of the mess. Iran get away with murder.

For someone of my age who remembers Iran before the Islamic Revolution, it does give me hope that the Iranian people can, somehow revolt against the regime and bring some kind of democracy to the country.

Back to Israel and it does look like the Israelis have decapitated the whole Hezbollah hierarchy. Nasrallah gone as well? Incredible.

Surely everyone is happy with that?

2 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Not sure he's saying it was because of de facto.

All part of the mess. Iran get away with murder.

I'm sure he's capable of replying himself.

Just now, Cheese said:

I'm sure he's capable of replying himself.

He's sat next to me now. He's occupied.

3 minutes ago, Cheese said:

So Putin invaded Ukraine because the Pentagon wanted to point missiles at Iran? Can you expand on this, or post a source?

I have mentioned this before... goes back a long way

https://2001-2009.state.gov/r/pa/ei/pix/2006/74897.htm

Connie met Putin in his static caravan in the woods... big pi55 up as it was Vlad's birthday.

Vlad pointed out that missiles in Poland placed to counter the Iranian threat could strike Moscow so Connie agreed that the Russians could place observers in the bases. President Bushy watered this down to regular inspections so Vlad got pretty pissed off and when the midget actor in Ukraine then stated he wanted to join NATO...

Just now, Dimron said:

I have mentioned this before... goes back a long way

https://2001-2009.state.gov/r/pa/ei/pix/2006/74897.htm

Connie met Putin in his static caravan in the woods... big pi55 up as it was Vlad's birthday.

Vlad pointed out that missiles in Poland placed to counter the Iranian threat could strike Moscow so Connie agreed that the Russians could place observers in the bases. President Bushy watered this down to regular inspections so Vlad got pretty pissed off and when the midget actor in Ukraine then stated he wanted to join NATO...

None of which justifies a military invasion of Ukraine, and the bombing of civilians.

😊

 

9 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

For someone of my age who remembers Iran before the Islamic Revolution, it does give me hope that the Iranian people can, somehow revolt against the regime and bring some kind of democracy to the country.

Back to Israel and it does look like the Israelis have decapitated the whole Hezbollah hierarchy. Nasrallah gone as well? Incredible.

Surely everyone is happy with that?

Good that 

If they could hurry up and finish off Hamas in an equally efficient manner, that too would be good

Just now, Cheese said:

None of which justifies a military invasion of Ukraine, and the bombing of civilians.

Agreed but Russians have a more brutal outlook, particularly with regards to their western borders... was it wise for the Ukrainians to tug the Bear's tail in full knowledge of what would (not could) happen?

1 minute ago, Zico said:

Good that 

If they could hurry up and finish off Hamas in an equally efficient manner, that too would be good

Trouble is it's all about "waging war on terror" again... your actions in winning the conflict just feed the next generation... you can't defeat beliefs with tanks and bombs

3 minutes ago, Dimron said:

Agreed but Russians have a more brutal outlook, particularly with regards to their western borders... was it wise for the Ukrainians to tug the Bear's tail in full knowledge of what would (not could) happen?

Ukraine has every right to apply to join NATO or the EU, or do whatever the fuck they want. You sound like a fascist  appeasing coward.

11 minutes ago, Dimron said:

Trouble is it's all about "waging war on terror" again... your actions in winning the conflict just feed the next generation... you can't defeat beliefs with tanks and bombs

If the aggressor is using tanks and bombs, (Russia) how do you respond?

If the aggressor is firing rockets at you from all directions (Hamas, Hezbollah, Houthis etc.) how do you respond?

 

1 hour ago, Zico said:

 So if it's a school with both Muslim and Jewish pupils, if they want to have a memorial, why can't they just acknowledge the whole thing is shit

Because it's a memorial for victims of a terrorist attack on the anniversary of the attack itself

The letter explicitly states "An Isreali military campaign has followed, which has lead to many more deaths in the region" as well as "we are united in our sorrow of the events of that day, and all that has followed" so it hardly seems as though the school is insensitive to victims of the wider conflict

6 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Ukraine has every right to apply to join NATO or the EU, or do whatever the fuck they want. You sound like a fascist  appeasing coward.

Ignoring your lilly livered infantile comments, the more I read and study convinces me that war is totally futile... we must do everything politically to avoid such circumstances.. BUT I can assure you I am certainly no coward, especially if I believe the situation merits, and will get stuck-in. 

Eventually we will need to make sense of where the world is going regarding the major trading blocks and religions and bombing the fuck out of each other will solve nowt.

I suspect NATO has now been hijacked from its original format by the Eastern Europeans in their battles against the Russian State and maybe isn't fit for purpose anymore as Trump is always telling us...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia–NATO_relations

 

9 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

If the aggressor is using tanks and bombs, (Russia) how do you respond?

If the aggressor is firing rockets at you from all directions (Hamas, Hezbollah, Houthis etc.) how do you respond?

 

Putin thought he could do the old Hungarian Tanks Rolling Down the Streets routine but the Yukes had been equipped with out anti-tank weapons.

Regarding Israel I thought Mossad played a blinder blowing up their phones and clearing a "no go" out of range area to the north is a good way forward.

If we just launched everything we had at Iran, nipped it at the bud and turned the desert to glass who would miss them? (Asking for a Friend)

10 minutes ago, Dimron said:

Ignoring your lilly livered infantile comments, the more I read and study convinces me that war is totally futile... we must do everything politically to avoid such circumstances.. BUT I can assure you I am certainly no coward, especially if I believe the situation merits, and will get stuck-in. 

Eventually we will need to make sense of where the world is going regarding the major trading blocks and religions and bombing the fuck out of each other will solve nowt.

I suspect NATO has now been hijacked from its original format by the Eastern Europeans in their battles against the Russian State and maybe isn't fit for purpose anymore as Trump is always telling us...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia–NATO_relations

Keep repeating Kremlin propaganda.

13 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

Because it's a memorial for victims of a terrorist attack on the anniversary of the attack itself

The letter explicitly states "An Isreali military campaign has followed, which has lead to many more deaths in the region" as well as "we are united in our sorrow of the events of that day, and all that has followed" so it hardly seems as though the school is insensitive to victims of the wider conflict

Unless they've been reprimanding kids which is where the "anger" appears to stem from 

If not then crack on

9 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Keep repeating Kremlin propaganda.

Okay Komrad

14 minutes ago, Dimron said:

If we just launched everything we had at Iran, nipped it at the bud and turned the desert to glass who would miss them? (Asking for a Friend)

Is the answer 'anyone with half a brain'?

47 minutes ago, Dimron said:

Agreed but Russians have a more brutal outlook, particularly with regards to their western borders... was it wise for the Ukrainians to tug the Bear's tail in full knowledge of what would (not could) happen?

Why has Putin killed or imprisoned every political opponent he had ? There is no functioning democracy in Russia anymore. Was all that NATOs fault? 

Do Iran get away with murder? Aren’t they heavily sanctioned by the West.

 What more should be done? Israel & the West wade in to topple the regime? Or should it be left to their own people to do that?

We all know they’re a horrific regime. 
 

Israel pretends to modern progressive nation  whilst bulldozing homes & taking more land.

17 minutes ago, Dimron said:

If we just launched everything we had at Iran, nipped it at the bud and turned the desert to glass who would miss them? (Asking for a Friend)

How did Iraq & Afghanistan turn out?

Dimron need his meds, nurse!

3 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

 

Israel pretends to modern progressive nation  whilst bulldozing homes & taking more land.

No one on here has condoned what the Israelis have, are or will continue to do in their country. 
The much bigger picture is Irans influence on world affairs. You can keep on bleating about land grabs all you want. Keep us all informed about Bangladesh and other countries as well if you want but the real issue is elsewhere. Iran. 

Just now, BobyBrno said:

No one on here has condoned what the Israelis have, are or will continue to do in their country. 

I think the point is that it isn't their country