Meanwhile in Israel

[Tonge moor green jacket]

24 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

Aren’t there Muslim kids attending as well? If the latter is true, then parents are entitled to complain if there’s not a memorial for both groups who’ve been massacred.

Things always get skewed when the media gets involved in schools stuff though.

Our council guidance was not to get involved in either side when it came to conflict. Seems fair enough. 

It is a Jewish school though. 

I agree about staying away from certain things; they are perhaps unnecessary in a child's education (leave it to parents) but whilst we have religious schools, then it shouldn't surprise folk if they have their own "faith events".

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

Jeez

It's simply a memorial service for victims of a terrorist attack on the one-year anniversary of that terrorist attack

No one is forced to attend

[BobyBrno]

4 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

It is a Jewish school though. 

I agree about staying away from certain things; they are perhaps unnecessary in a child's education (leave it to parents) but whilst we have religious schools, then it shouldn't surprise folk if they have their own "faith events".

I went to a faith school, Catholic, we celebrated days others didn’t. Always frowned on Bonfire Night though but I loved it.😊

Anyway, October 7th was one of the most horrific Islamic terrorist attacks in history. Pretty sure there were remembrance days for some of the other Islamic Terrorist atrocities. I don’t need to list them, we all know them. All backed by Iran. No one mentions Iran.

[Cheese]

Just now, BobyBrno said:

I went to a faith school, Catholic, we celebrated days others didn’t. Always frowned on Bonfire Night though but I loved it.😊

Anyway, October 7th was one of the most horrific Islamic terrorist attacks in history. Pretty sure there were remembrance days for some of the other Islamic Terrorist atrocities. I don’t need to list them, we all know them. All backed by Iran. No one mentions Iran.

It was a Hamas terrorist attack.

[BobyBrno]

6 minutes ago, Cheese said:

It was a Hamas terrorist attack.

Yep. Those Hamas Methodist Terrorists. 

[Cheese]

12 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

Yep. Those Hamas Methodist Terrorists. 

Would you describe IRA bombings as "Catholic terrorist attacks"?

Edited September 27 by Cheese

[London Wanderer]

30 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

There are anti Israel (antisemitic) marches every weekend throughout the country.
A Jewish school, remembering mainly Jewish people in a massacre by anti Jewish terrorists on its first anniversary seems very reasonable to me. 
 

Edit. Anti Israel is not antisemitic but many of the marchers are. 

All anecdotal with no evidence to prove otherwise. 

There have been offensive banners, groups and individual actions. But the majority are protesting against the extremist Israeli regime and calling for a ceasefire. Claiming this is anti-Israel is nonsense. The marches aren't calling for Israel to be abolished. Demanding Palestine has the right to govern itself, after decades of war, huge land grabs and illegal occupations isn't an anti Israeli viewpoint. 

I'll try to respond to all who've replied in this post if possible. I completely sympathise with any Jewish community holding a memorial. In school or at their place of worship. No doubt some families would have lost relatives and friends at the school. But it's important to note that it's a state school and is attended by a significant number of Muslim pupils. If it is true that students had been reprimanded for showing solidarity with the victims in Gaza, then parents are perfectly entitled to complain of double standards. Especially if the pupils were doing so peacefully. 

Here's an interesting statistic to finish with in regards to schools. 80% of them have been destroyed or damaged in Gaza by Israel since October 7th. 

And this is the daily reality for primary schools across the West Bank. Wonder why the Israeli government does nothing to stop this? 
 

 

[BobyBrno]

2 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Would you describe IRA bombings as "Catholic terrorist attacks"?

No. Irish Nationalist.

Most Irish Catholics and most Catholics don’t support terrorism.

 

[Cheese]

Just now, BobyBrno said:

No. Irish Nationalist.

Most Irish Catholics and most Catholics don’t support terrorism.

But you think most Muslims support Hamas Terrorist attacks?

[BobyBrno]

5 minutes ago, Cheese said:

But you think most Muslims support Hamas Terrorist attacks?

Never said that. Making things up again. 

[BobyBrno]

11 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

All anecdotal with no evidence to prove otherwise. 

There have been offensive banners, groups and individual actions. But the majority are protesting against the extremist Israeli regime and calling for a ceasefire. Claiming this is anti-Israel is nonsense. The marches aren't calling for Israel to be abolished. Demanding Palestine has the right to govern itself, after decades of war, huge land grabs and illegal occupations isn't an anti Israeli viewpoint. 

I'll try to respond to all who've replied in this post if possible. I completely sympathise with any Jewish community holding a memorial. In school or at their place of worship. No doubt some families would have lost relatives and friends at the school. But it's important to note that it's a state school and is attended by a significant number of Muslim pupils. If it is true that students had been reprimanded for showing solidarity with the victims in Gaza, then parents are perfectly entitled to complain of double standards. Especially if the pupils were doing so peacefully. 

Here's an interesting statistic to finish with in regards to schools. 80% of them have been destroyed or damaged in Gaza by Israel since October 7th. 

And this is the daily reality for primary schools across the West Bank. Wonder why the Israeli government does nothing to stop this? 
 

 

As you say, anecdotal with no evidence to back it up. Why bother? 🤷‍♂️

[London Wanderer]

Just now, BobyBrno said:

As you say, anecdotal with no evidence to back it up. Why bother? 🤷‍♂️

To attempt to help you understand that criticising the current brutality of the Israeli government isn't anti-Israel. 

Waste of time though clearly 😉

[gonzo]

Are we pretending antisemitism isn't alive and well again?

[BobyBrno]

1 minute ago, London Wanderer said:

To attempt to help you understand that criticising the current brutality of the Israeli government isn't anti-Israel. 

Waste of time though clearly 😉

I can copy and paste stuff that shows the brutality of Islamic regimes (all backed by Iran) no one wants to know though. Have you ever criticised or even mentioned Iran? 

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

It's probably important to bear in mind that 5 Pillers are in no sense good faith actors 

[BobyBrno]

3 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Are we pretending antisemitism isn't alive and well again?

I hate both racists and hypocrites. From my experience, antisemitics are both. 
Im one of the oldest on here, I’ve never seen it so bad. Maybe it was always there with some. 

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

Islamist is the word

[Cheese]

16 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

Never said that. Making things up again. 

It was a question. And you can't answer it for some reason.  🤷‍♂️

[Winchester White]

As Boby keeps mentioning, the big issues in the middle east are all Iranian funded. Hamas, Hezbollah & Houthis are all terrorist organisations performing as Iranian proxies. They back Russia and Syria as countries that are frankly performing terrorist actions too.

It's time we seriously sanctioned Iran and while we are at it do the same with all the former Soviet countries suddenly doing massive trade in posh cars and electronic equipment that find themselves in Russia.

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

The best hope for Iran is that the younger generation overthrow the hard-line Islamist regime 

It might not be imminent, but unlike in countries like Russia and Saudi Arabia, a toppling of the governing powers is a real possibility in Iran

Edited September 27 by Lt. Aldo Raine

[Zico]

1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

It is a Jewish school though. 

Have read the tweet again 

It has a Muslim in take

Which actually surprises me 

So if it's a school with both Muslim and Jewish pupils, if they want to have a memorial, why can't they just acknowledge the whole thing is shit

If they want to just acknowledge the Jewish loss of life, fine

But don't also reprimand the Muslims for their views

Maybe they could do two memorials

One for the loss of innocent Jewish life, one for the loss of innocent Muslim life, all caused by Hamas

[kent_white]

24 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

The best hope for Iran is that the younger generation overthrow the hard-line Islamist regime 

It might not be imminent, but unlike in countries like Russia and Saudi Arabia, a toppling of the governing powers is a real possibility in Iran

Benjamin Nehanyahu was suggesting something similar at the UN today. 

It did sound very much like Israel was prepared for all out war with Iran if required.

[Dimron]

38 minutes ago, Winchester White said:

As Boby keeps mentioning, the big issues in the middle east are all Iranian funded. Hamas, Hezbollah & Houthis are all terrorist organisations performing as Iranian proxies. They back Russia and Syria as countries that are frankly performing terrorist actions too.

It's time we seriously sanctioned Iran and while we are at it do the same with all the former Soviet countries suddenly doing massive trade in posh cars and electronic equipment that find themselves in Russia.

You can even trace the Ukraine mess to Iran... the Pentagon wants to place medium range missiles on the eastern extremities  of NATO to strike Iran but Putin (quite rightly) has pointed out these missiles can reach Moscow as well... and it all went wibble from ther

[Cheese]

11 minutes ago, Dimron said:

You can even trace the Ukraine mess to Iran... the Pentagon wants to place medium range missiles on the eastern extremities  of NATO to strike Iran but Putin (quite rightly) has pointed out these missiles can reach Moscow as well... and it all went wibble from ther

So Putin invaded Ukraine because the Pentagon wanted to point missiles at Iran? Can you expand on this, or post a source?

[London Wanderer]

1 hour ago, BobyBrno said:

I can copy and paste stuff that shows the brutality of Islamic regimes (all backed by Iran) no one wants to know though. Have you ever criticised or even mentioned Iran? 

No never mate 

I love the Iranian regime 

Never heard a bad word about them in the news