Meanwhile in Israel

[London Wanderer]

11 hours ago, bolty58 said:

After a moment of brevity, a more serious response. With reference to the highlighted part, you are living in cloud cuckoo land if you believe that any 'government' entity in Gaza does anything other than that instructed by the murderous fanatics they are led by. Of course you are entitled to your opinion as I am mine. I would not trust a single number, 'fact', 'declaration' or, in fact, absolutely anything they say.

Similarly I trust neither the BBC nor ITV News as are both driven by woke ideology adherent management these days. They want gutting and restarting if they want to be seen as truly impartial. Every story they run is framed in a way that leads to only one conclusion. Left leaning wokism.

😂

[kent_white]

12 hours ago, bolty58 said:

After a moment of brevity, a more serious response. With reference to the highlighted part, you are living in cloud cuckoo land if you believe that any 'government' entity in Gaza does anything other than that instructed by the murderous fanatics they are led by. Of course you are entitled to your opinion as I am mine. I would not trust a single number, 'fact', 'declaration' or, in fact, absolutely anything they say.

Similarly I trust neither the BBC nor ITV News as are both driven by woke ideology adherent management these days. They want gutting and restarting if they want to be seen as truly impartial. Every story they run is framed in a way that leads to only one conclusion. Left leaning wokism.

I'm not sure not wanting to see children murdered or starving to death counts as 'wokism'. It's just humanity. 

Wokism would be if we were particularly concerned about transgender children being targeted or them being unable to have access to trans appropriate reading materials. 

[Traf]

14 hours ago, gonzo said:

 

 

 

All sadly true, but Israel MUST be allowed to defend itself

[royal white]

Interesting read.

 

 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

Hmm, lot technical "facts" there, but some of them would appear to be completely un-provable.

Generally, targeting hamas fighters has been obvious- though some will never accept that. 

That doesn't however mean that some of the current shootings are of the same ilk.

Firing into folk seeking food aid, is completely unacceptable and inhumane in the extreme, and detracts from the "targeting" argument.

Of course, there maybe yet be additional information which sheds new light on matters, but it is difficult to envisage any thing of that nature.

Air drops may not be as efficient, but there would be no shooting. 

Of course there is the risk of stampeding and Hamas stealing the aid, but that could be filmed and put into the public domain.

[royal white]

5 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Hmm, lot technical "facts" there, but some of them would appear to be completely un-provable.

Generally, targeting hamas fighters has been obvious- though some will never accept that. 

That doesn't however mean that some of the current shootings are of the same ilk.

Firing into folk seeking food aid, is completely unacceptable and inhumane in the extreme, and detracts from the "targeting" argument.

Of course, there maybe yet be additional information which sheds new light on matters, but it is difficult to envisage any thing of that nature.

Air drops may not be as efficient, but there would be no shooting. 

Of course there is the risk of stampeding and Hamas stealing the aid, but that could be filmed and put into the public domain.

Or just queue up at Hotdog 2022

 

 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

Is that genuine though?

As we've seen throughout, stuff gets confused and made up in the fog of war.

[Bertie]

19 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Is that genuine though?

As we've seen throughout, stuff gets confused and made up in the fog of war.

You’re right I guess - no idea if true.  Current headline on BBC is below.  Some will say this isn’t true of course.  Take your pick. I have.

[London Wanderer]

1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Is that genuine though?

As we've seen throughout, stuff gets confused and made up in the fog of war.

Is it fck

 Some nonsense Twitter post & he’s convinced himself that Gazans are out dining in luxury.

 Even if some are eating, it doesn’t dilute the fact many are starving. And now dying as a result. 
 

“More than 100 international aid organisations and human rights groups are warning of mass starvation in Gaza and pressing for governments to take action.

Médecins Sans Frontières (MSF), Save the Children and Oxfam are among the signatories of a joint statement that says their colleagues and the people they serve are "wasting away".

How RW knows different to these people is beyond me

[royal white]

2 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

Is it fck

 Some nonsense Twitter post & he’s convinced himself that Gazans are out dining in luxury.

 Even if some are eating, it doesn’t dilute the fact many are starving. And now dying as a result. 
 

“More than 100 international aid organisations and human rights groups are warning of mass starvation in Gaza and pressing for governments to take action.

Médecins Sans Frontières (MSF), Save the Children and Oxfam are among the signatories of a joint statement that says their colleagues and the people they serve are "wasting away".

How RW knows different to these people is beyond me

How do you know it’s not real? 

[London Wanderer]

14 minutes ago, royal white said:

How do you know it’s not real? 

How do you know the  ‘table’ you posted above from a highly biased pro Israeli source is legit ?

Most can see how horrendous this latest aid distribution has been.

It has caused widespread starvation & malnutrition. Folk are now unnecessarily dying. A hundred organisations and experts are confirming this. Yet a business may or may not be selling food somewhere in Gaza & you’re on a mission to disprove the facts staring you in the face. 

Edited July 23, 2025 by London Wanderer

[royal white]

2 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

How do you know the  ‘table’ you posted above from a highly biased pro Israeli source is legit ?

Most can see how horrendous this latest aid distribution has been.

It has caused widespread starvation & malnutrition. Folk are now unnecessarily dying. A hundred organisations and experts are confirming this. Yet a business may or may not be selling food somewhere in Gaza & you’re on a mission to disprove the facts staring you in the face. 

So You don’t know the video is fake. You should have just said 

[Bertie]

6 minutes ago, royal white said:

So You don’t know the video is fake. You should have just said 

Knock yourself out then, believing Karen off Twitter/Facebook.  I’ll stick to the >100 international aid agencies saying Israel is responsible for deliberately starving a whole nation.

[royal white]

Just now, Bertie said:

Knock yourself out then, believing Karen off Twitter/Facebook.  I’ll stick to the >100 international aid agencies saying Israel is responsible for deliberately starving a whole nation.

Not sure what any of that has to do with the restaurant in question? 

[Spider]

Bolty is a man with a fork in a world of soup.

To quote a great man.

[DirtySanchez]

5 minutes ago, Spider said:

Bolty is a man with a fork in a world of soup.

To quote a great man.

Apart from when he insults Bradford fans over dying in a fire 

Then it's a typo 

[Casino]

1 hour ago, Bertie said:

You’re right I guess - no idea if true.  Current headline on BBC is below.  Some will say this isn’t true of course.  Take your pick. I have.

Holocaust

[kent_white]

2 hours ago, royal white said:

Or just queue up at Hotdog 2022

 

 

Just to put this in some context.

200 Sheckles is about £44.

The prewar the average daily wage in Gaza was 43 sheckles, approximately £9.50 a day. 

The average daily wage will have plummeted since then as unemployment in Gaza is currently just under 80%

And here's an example of what you get for the price of 4.6 days work. 

It's not exactly the Syd's Pizza and Kebab House Family Saver Meal is it? 😁

[London Wanderer]

27 minutes ago, royal white said:

So You don’t know the video is fake. You should have just said 

It originated from an account called 'documenting reality' who are a conspiracy group spreading nonsense about the whole thing being one big scripted play. They speak about Palestinians playing the victim and that the deaths and carnage are just pretend.

Seems you're getting sucked in. It's surreal the lengths you are now going to, and the twitter wormholes you're going down, to avoid criticising Israel. 

We know that Gazan's have been trying to rebuild. We know that during the ceasefire in February restaurants opened again and people tried to eat out. There will be plenty of videos from then as well.

Let's hope that they can open businesses regularly again soon, & advertise them on social media.

100 organisations and other experts showing the true scale of malnutrition and starvation - yet here you are - with a post about a fuckin hot dog restaurant. Very odd.   

[London Wanderer]

2 minutes ago, kent_white said:

Just to put this in some context.

200 Sheckles is about £44.

The prewar the average daily wage in Gaza was 43 sheckles, approximately £9.50 a day. 

The average daily wage will have plummeted since then as unemployment in Gaza is currently just under 80%

And here's an example of what you get for the price of 4.6 days work. 

It's not exactly the Syd's Pizza and Kebab House Family Saver Meal is it? 😁

So it was shite after all 😂

Always a laugh when someone shares something from twitter on here without doing any research first.

Looks tasty either way. 3 of your 5 a day surely. 

[royal white]

Just now, London Wanderer said:

So it was shite after all 😂

Always a laugh when someone shares something from twitter on here without doing any research first.

Looks tasty either way. 3 of your 5 a day surely. 

It Clearly isn’t shite. 😂 their prices being high doesn’t mean it’s not real. You’ve outdone yourself here. 
 

Anyway hopefully the UN will get their arse in gear and get this delivered. 
 

 

[London Wanderer]

23 minutes ago, royal white said:

It Clearly isn’t shite. 😂 their prices being high doesn’t mean it’s not real. You’ve outdone yourself here. 
 

Anyway hopefully the UN will get their arse in gear and get this delivered. 
 

 

It clearly is - as has been show. Keep digging lad

Ah look, it's Hillel Fuld from Twitter. The same guy who was denied a visa for Australia because it was deemed he incited hatred. Let's have a look at his wise words. 

"The UN refuses to distribute them"

They've been prevented from distributing aid. And the new IDF and US distribution that took over have been killing civilians collecting the aid & causing starvation. How anyone can turn the blame back onto the UN is beyond me. But Hillel Fuld has given it a go and you've lapped it up as always. 

The chief of the WHO and 100 organisations and other experts are calling it a man made starvation caused by the Israeli blockade. I'll stick with their expertise over yours. 

https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/gaza-facing-man-made-mass-starvation-says-whos-tedros-2025-07-23/

Yet you and your Twitter conspiracy cesspit somehow know otherwise.

You've proper gone haven't you. The lengths you're going to. Why do you find it so hard to criticise Israel? 

 

Edited July 23, 2025 by London Wanderer

[royal white]

3 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

It clearly is - as has been show. Keep digging lad

Ah look, it's Hillel Fuld from Twitter. The same guy who was denied a visa for Australia because it was deemed he incited hatred. Let's have a look at his wise words. 

"The UN refuses to distribute them"

They've been prevented from distributing aid. And the new IDF and US distribution that took over have been killing civilians collecting the aid & causing starvation. How anyone can turn the blame back onto the UN is beyond me. But Hillel Fuld has given it a go and you've lapped it up as always. 

The chief of the WHO and 100 organisations and other experts are calling it a man made starvation caused by the blockade. I'll stick with their expertise over yours. 

https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/gaza-facing-man-made-mass-starvation-says-whos-tedros-2025-07-23/

Yet you and your Twitter conspiracy cesspit somehow know otherwise.

You've proper gone haven't you. The lengths you're going to. Why do you find it so hard to criticise Israel? 

 

“As has been shown”? Who has shown it as being fake? It’s real you just don’t want to believe it. 
 

Theres dozens of videos making the same claim, obviously you won’t believe them because they’re pro Israel. the UN refuse to distribute the food because it’s not in line with their basic principles. Seems their basic principles are more important than Starving kids. 

[kent_white]

1 minute ago, royal white said:

It Clearly isn’t shite. 😂 their prices being high doesn’t mean it’s not real. You’ve outdone yourself here. 
 

Anyway hopefully the UN will get their arse in gear and get this delivered. 
 

 

The UN won't distribute the aid because they're refusing to work alongside an organisation that is shooting people whilst they're queuing for the very aid that the UN are being asked to distribute. 

They have a reputation they need to uphold so that they can continue to be seen as acting with integrity, in both this and future conflicts. But I can see from a mile off how the right wing twitter folk will try to spin this 😆🤪

"Behold, the evil UN. Hark as they refuseth to deliver thine aid, given freely so as to helpeth thy desperate, innocent Palestinian brothers and sisters in their hour of greatest need 😭😭😭"

Becoming bleeding heart humanitarians all of a sudden!

Despite the fact they've sat back and applauded the carnage everyday for the last 18 months. And despite the fact that they also know the Gazans are (as you've already incontrovertibly proven) all living it up at the 200 sheckel a time Hot Dog Restaurant in Gaza City and are generally taking the absolute piss. 

No wonder you're angry if this is how you interpret the world. I'm sure I would be too! 🤪😁

[royal white]

Just now, kent_white said:

The UN won't distribute the aid because they're refusing to work alongside an organisation that is shooting people whilst they're queuing for the very aid that the UN are being asked to distribute. 

They have a reputation they need to uphold so that they can continue to be seen as acting with integrity, in both this and future conflicts. But I can see from a mile off how the right wing twitter folk will try to spin this 😆🤪

"Behold, the evil UN. Hark as they refuseth to deliver thine aid, given freely so as to helpeth thy desperate, innocent Palestinian brothers and sisters in their hour of greatest need 😭😭😭"

Becoming bleeding heart humanitarians all of a sudden!

Despite the fact they've sat back and applauded the carnage everyday for the last 18 months. And despite the fact that they also know the Gazans are (as you've already incontrovertibly proven) all living it up at the 200 sheckel a time Hot Dog Restaurant in Gaza City and are generally taking the absolute piss. 

No wonder you're angry if this is how you interpret the world. I'm sure I would be too! 🤪😁

“A reputation to uphold” yes like Allowing Hamas tunnels to be built under their offices and having numerous Hamas operators working for them. 🥴
 

At least you acknowledge that they’re refusing to work. Not like our serial bull shitter on here who says they’re being stopped from working. 
 

Anyway I had a feeling my original post would be bypassed, I’m just quite surprised at how quick it was.