London Wanderer Posted October 28, 2023 Posted October 28, 2023 8 minutes ago, royal white said: You’ve posted a link that says kids were throwing Molotov cocktails then ask why they get dead 😂 are you honestly this bone? Israel illegally evicts innocent families from their land and bulldozes their homes. Children throw rocks and Molotov cocktails Israel shoots them down (but not on purpose) Who do you blame? Hamas? The kids? Israel? Or all 3? You’re not honestly that bone to say the kids no? Quote
Mounts Kipper Posted October 28, 2023 Posted October 28, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, London Wanderer said: Perhaps the IDF should begin by responding with tear gas and dispersal techniques. They don’t half make life hard for themselves in the long run. One lad was killed nowhere near whilst in his own, unarmed and throwing fck all. The others were shot in the back at chest level whilst running away. Don’t worry though, RW assures me it wasn’t on purpose 👍 You’re really not trying to excuse it though are you mate? “Israeli authorities have used excessive force against Palestinians in policing situations for decades. The authorities have routinely failed to hold their forces accountable when security forces kill Palestinians, including children, in circumstances in which the use of lethal force was not justified under international norms. From 2017 to 2021, fewer than one percent of complaints of violations by Israeli military forces against Palestinians, including killings and other abuses, resulted in indictments, the Israeli rights group Yesh Din reported.” If it was me I’d not put myself in a position where I got shot… but they want to go to heaven as hero’s, chucking Molotov cocktail opens you up to being shot, the lad who they said was going to school I’d need to know the other sides story.. they’ve form for not telling the whole truth. ( hamas stating Israel bombed hospital sort of confirms that) Edited October 28, 2023 by Mounts Kipper Quote
royal white Posted October 28, 2023 Posted October 28, 2023 10 minutes ago, London Wanderer said: Perhaps the IDF should begin by responding with tear gas and dispersal techniques. They don’t half make life hard for themselves in the long run. One lad was killed nowhere near whilst in his own, unarmed and throwing fck all. The others were shot in the back at chest level whilst running away. Don’t worry though, RW assures me it wasn’t on purpose 👍 You’re really not trying to excuse it though are you mate? “Israeli authorities have used excessive force against Palestinians in policing situations for decades. The authorities have routinely failed to hold their forces accountable when security forces kill Palestinians, including children, in circumstances in which the use of lethal force was not justified under international norms. From 2017 to 2021, fewer than one percent of complaints of violations by Israeli military forces against Palestinians, including killings and other abuses, resulted in indictments, the Israeli rights group Yesh Din reported.” Are the majority of cases under the rules of engagement? Quote
London Wanderer Posted October 28, 2023 Posted October 28, 2023 Just now, Mounts Kipper said: If it was me I’d not put myself in a position where I got shot… but they want to go to heaven as hero’s, chucking Molotov cocktail opens you up to being shot, the lad who they said was going to school I’d need to know the other sides story.. they’ve form for not telling the whole truth. ( Israel bombing hospital sort of confirms that) Easier said than done You haven’t seen your home bulldozed, your farm and family income destroyed and your family pushed into poverty. As I’ve said, this doesn’t begin and end with Hamas. Quote
London Wanderer Posted October 28, 2023 Posted October 28, 2023 Just now, royal white said: Are the majority of cases under the rules of engagement? Aye, with the kids running away backs turned? 🙈 Why are you trying to defend it? The same website has highlighted Hamas’ recent actions. But why do you struggle so much to acknowledge any crimes on the part of Israel? Quote
royal white Posted October 28, 2023 Posted October 28, 2023 7 minutes ago, London Wanderer said: Israel illegally evicts innocent families from their land and bulldozes their homes. Children throw rocks and Molotov cocktails Israel shoots them down (but not on purpose) Who do you blame? Hamas? The kids? Israel? Or all 3? You’re not honestly that bone to say the kids no? You will probably find these are on purpose and justified under their ROE. Play stupid games won stupid prizes. Quote
Mounts Kipper Posted October 28, 2023 Posted October 28, 2023 Just now, London Wanderer said: Easier said than done You haven’t seen your home bulldozed, your farm and family income destroyed and your family pushed into poverty. As I’ve said, this doesn’t begin and end with Hamas. Unjust Israeli behaviour should be addressed but it won’t be while Hamas continues chopping babies heads off, if Palestine wants peace let the Israelis come in and take out the cancer that is causing Palestinians to die, then diplomatic negotiations can begin on unjust Israeli behaviour. There is no alternative course of action that improves the Palestinian people’s life’s. Quote
London Wanderer Posted October 28, 2023 Posted October 28, 2023 Just now, royal white said: You will probably find these are on purpose 👍 Quote
royal white Posted October 28, 2023 Posted October 28, 2023 Just now, London Wanderer said: Aye, with the kids running away backs turned? 🙈 Why are you trying to defend it? The same website has highlighted Hamas’ recent actions. But why do you struggle so much to acknowledge any crimes on the part of Israel? The Israeli newspaper Haaretz reported in January that since “December 2021, soldiers are allowed to shoot at Palestinians who are fleeing if they had previously thrown stones or Molotov cocktails.” That’s from your link. That’s their ROE. We know you have been there but please stop thinking you know the ins and outs of everything because it’s clear to see that you don’t. Quote
London Wanderer Posted October 28, 2023 Posted October 28, 2023 Just now, royal white said: The Israeli newspaper Haaretz reported in January that since “December 2021, soldiers are allowed to shoot at Palestinians who are fleeing if they had previously thrown stones or Molotov cocktails.” Do you think the IDF sat down and ‘purposefully’ made the decision to allow this? Quote
Mounts Kipper Posted October 28, 2023 Posted October 28, 2023 1 minute ago, royal white said: The Israeli newspaper Haaretz reported in January that since “December 2021, soldiers are allowed to shoot at Palestinians who are fleeing if they had previously thrown stones or Molotov cocktails.” That’s from your link. That’s their ROE. We know you have been there but please stop thinking you know the ins and outs of everything because it’s clear to see that you don’t. When your mate is on fire because some fuckers chucked a Molotov you ain’t not gonna shoot because he’s on his toes. Quote
London Wanderer Posted October 28, 2023 Posted October 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: Unjust Israeli behaviour should be addressed but it won’t be while Hamas continues chopping babies heads off, Yes And Israel has to halt and reverse its land grabbing policies. Works both ways Quote
royal white Posted October 28, 2023 Posted October 28, 2023 Just now, London Wanderer said: Do you think the IDF sat down and ‘purposefully’ made the decision to allow this? You’re arguing here about their laws. 😂 those Palestinians know what they are as I said before….play stupid games…… Quote
London Wanderer Posted October 28, 2023 Posted October 28, 2023 Just now, royal white said: You’re arguing here about their laws. 😂 those Palestinians know what they are as I said before….play stupid games…… We’ve established its on purpose regardless. So we can leave it there 👍 Quote
royal white Posted October 28, 2023 Posted October 28, 2023 Just now, Mounts Kipper said: When your mate is on fire because some fuckers chucked a Molotov you ain’t not gonna shoot because he’s on his toes. Exactly, these are their rules, who the fuck are we to say if they’re right or wrong. Let’s make sure next time they run them by the school teacher! Quote
Mounts Kipper Posted October 28, 2023 Posted October 28, 2023 Just now, London Wanderer said: Yes And Israel has to halt and reverse its land grabbing policies. Works both ways Grabbing land cannot ever justify the murder of babies… Quote
London Wanderer Posted October 28, 2023 Posted October 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: Grabbing land cannot ever justify the murder of babies… Who the fck said it did? Who on here has said Hamas’ actions are justified Jesus this is hard work. Quote
royal white Posted October 28, 2023 Posted October 28, 2023 11 minutes ago, London Wanderer said: We’ve established its on purpose regardless. So we can leave it there 👍 Yes purposely killed (kids) 17 year olds who are throwing/have thrown Molotov cocktails at them. Hardly going into schools and hospitals and murdering children like you have been making out is it. Fkinell this is hard work . Quote
London Wanderer Posted October 28, 2023 Posted October 28, 2023 13 minutes ago, royal white said: Yes purposely killed (kids) 17 year olds who are throwing/have thrown Molotov cocktails at them. Hardly going into schools and hospitals and murdering children like you have been making out is it. Fkinell this is hard work . Never said that. Thought it was just me who was meant to make things up 🤔🤥 You’re getting caught up in generalised technicalities now. For the past few days you’ve been telling us all Israel don’t deliberately target children. Now you’ve admitted there are cases where they have. So let’s stop boring people to death and call it a day. Quote
royal white Posted October 28, 2023 Posted October 28, 2023 12 minutes ago, London Wanderer said: Never said that. Thought it was just me who was meant to make things up 🤔🤥 You’re getting caught up in generalised technicalities now. For the past few days you’ve been telling us all Israel don’t deliberately target children. Now you’ve admitted there are cases where they have. So let’s stop boring people to death and call it a day. They’re deliberately targeting combatants, as proven by the link you provided. Age doesn’t come into it. I love reading people’s comments, especially those who spend their days in a nice warm cosy office/classroom, giving their views on how soldiers should be reacting on the front line in one of the most hostile places in the world. 😂😂 Thunder cunts need to stick to COD Quote
London Wanderer Posted October 28, 2023 Posted October 28, 2023 12 minutes ago, royal white said: They’re deliberately targeting combatants, as proven by the link you provided. Age doesn’t come into it. I Combatants, age doesn’t come into it. Christ. You seem so sure that Israel is never to blame and its never on purpose. I love reading comments, from someone on a nice cosy nightshift, who pretends to understand the complexities of a near century long conflict. “firing live ammunition indiscriminately in a residential neighbourhood where there is no threat to an Israeli soldier’s life is a clear violation of the Israeli military’s own policies.” “Unlawful killings of Palestinian children have become the norm as Israeli forces become increasingly empowered to use intentional lethal force in situations that are not justified,” he added. “This is a war crime with no consequence.” Quote
royal white Posted October 28, 2023 Posted October 28, 2023 (edited) 26 minutes ago, London Wanderer said: Combatants, age doesn’t come into it. Christ. You seem so sure that Israel is never to blame and its never on purpose. I love reading comments, from someone on a nice cosy nightshift, who pretends to understand the complexities of a near century long conflict. “firing live ammunition indiscriminately in a residential neighbourhood where there is no threat to an Israeli soldier’s life is a clear violation of the Israeli military’s own policies.” “Unlawful killings of Palestinian children have become the norm as Israeli forces become increasingly empowered to use intentional lethal force in situations that are not justified,” he added. “This is a war crime with no consequence.” Yes, that’s correct and if someone is throwing a Molotov cocktail at you at what point do you ask to see their birth certificate. You’re seriously clueless on this. At no point have I made out I know all about the complexities of what’s going on, and I’m not making that out. But believe me I know more than you will ever know about operating under ROE 😉 Edited October 28, 2023 by royal white Quote
London Wanderer Posted October 28, 2023 Posted October 28, 2023 11 minutes ago, royal white said: Yes, that’s correct and if someone is throwing a Molotov cocktail at you at what point do you ask to see their birth certificate. You’re seriously clueless on this. Believe me, at no point have I made out I know all about the complexities of what’s going on, and I’m not making that out. But believe me I know more than you will ever know about operating under ROE 😉 You don’t need to wink, I know full well you do. I’ve never gone down your route and tried to insult your job capabilities 👍 But it’s your word and experience against experts in war crimes, police tactics and other military leaders who have called out their tactics. Quote
royal white Posted October 28, 2023 Posted October 28, 2023 6 minutes ago, London Wanderer said: You don’t need to wink, I know full well you do. I’ve never gone down your route and tried to insult your job capabilities 👍 But it’s your word and experience against experts in war crimes, police tactics and other military leaders who have called out their tactics. Yet here you are calling out the capabilities of those on the front line 🤦🏻 toodle pip Quote
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