Meanwhile in Israel

[royal white]

12 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

Absolutely. Hard to disagree with much of that. I can appreciate many Israelis feel that way.

You could also rephrase the whole post and apply it to a Palestinian living peacefully in the West Bank or Gaza. And you could finish with the same words ‘fuck terror’. 
 

It exists on both sides. 

Yes the majority of your posts are pro Palestine. 🤷🏻‍♂️ go figure .

[ErnestTurnip]

Do we think the 700000 and increasing people living in illegal settlements want an equal existence with Palestinians?

In a fantasy world if you could press.a button what would it do?

Eliminate Hamas and its supporters?

Eliminate Hamas and its supporters and Netanyahu and his supporters?

Eliminate Hamas and its supporters and remover the illegal settlers?

Eliminate Hamas and its supporters and alter the UN resolutions so that that all settlers are legally there?

Eliminate Israel amd give sovereignity to Palestinians in the area?

And so on.

It's nothing like as black and white as people saying an atrocity that happened in October 2023 should be what is used as a yardstick.

Oh and in a more general point, Islam and Judaism are both equally ridiculous backwards ways to live your life.

 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

Religion on the whole is arguably a strange way to live.

That said, out of the ones you list, only one causes international terror issues.

[Mounts Kipper]

8 hours ago, Mounts Kipper said:

I understand it completely I’m not sure why someone supposedly a teacher can’t grasp the simple facts.

Hamas don’t ever want peace, they are set up to eradicate Jews and Israel, if they stopped attacking Israel then not one Palestinian or Jewish child would be murdered.

 Removal of Hamas and all other terrorist  groups (or at least a halt in attacks on Israel) then negotiate diplomatically about the unjust issues caused by Israel and then Palestine would have the backing of virtually the whole world and the pressure shifts on the Israelis to give the Palestinians a fairer deal.

Remember Hamas don’t want those negotiations to happen, remember Israel chatting about peace with Saudis was a major factor in the Hamas attack. 

@London Wanderer this post. 

[Mounts Kipper]

11 minutes ago, ErnestTurnip said:

Do we think the 700000 and increasing people living in illegal settlements want an equal existence with Palestinians?

In a fantasy world if you could press.a button what would it do?

Eliminate Hamas and its supporters?

Eliminate Hamas and its supporters and Netanyahu and his supporters?

Eliminate Hamas and its supporters and remover the illegal settlers?

Eliminate Hamas and its supporters and alter the UN resolutions so that that all settlers are legally there?

Eliminate Israel amd give sovereignity to Palestinians in the area?

And so on.

It's nothing like as black and white as people saying an atrocity that happened in October 2023 should be what is used as a yardstick.

Oh and in a more general point, Islam and Judaism are both equally ridiculous backwards ways to live your life.

 

I do agree but one is a peaceful religion while the other continues to murder folk both Muslim and non Muslim. 

[ErnestTurnip]

If you're an Israeli opening up your olive shop or a Palestinian opening up your bread shop you don't give a fuck about international terror you just want to get to work, do your bit, go home and play with the kids without being killed.

If we're only interested because the violence might spill out and affect us then we're asking the wrong questions.

[London Wanderer]

1 hour ago, royal white said:

Yes the majority of your posts are pro Palestine. 🤷🏻‍♂️ go figure .

Have you got any evidence of this? 
 

Have you posted anything about the atrocities committed by Israel? 
 

I’m quite balanced really. Just disagreeing with the constant barrage that one side is worst than the other. 

[royal white]

6 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

Have you got any evidence of this? 
 

Have you posted anything about the atrocities committed by Israel? 
 

I’m quite balanced really. Just disagreeing with the constant barrage that one side is worst than the other. 

No the majority of my posts have been about the thunder cunts in this country demonstrating and celebrating anything pro Palestine and those other thunder cunts who keep saying kids are being deliberate targeted. 
 

The evidence is the majority of your posts in this thread. 👍

[little whitt]

2 hours ago, globaldiver said:

Quite.

Hamas deliberately kill (and torture etc) anyone, Israel will be doing their best to avoid innocent victims, but have a legitimate goal to prosecute.

THIS 

WITH BELLS ON

[deeane Koontz]

7 hours ago, globaldiver said:

Quite.

Hamas deliberately kill (and torture etc) anyone, Israel will be doing their best to avoid innocent victims, but have a legitimate goal to prosecute.

 

 

They'll show as much regard to "innocent victims" as they do when they thieve land, displace folk and cut supplies off to innocent and desperate people 

 

 

 

Edited October 28, 2023 by deeane Koontz

[London Wanderer]

25 minutes ago, royal white said:

No the majority of my posts have been about the thunder cunts in this country demonstrating and celebrating anything pro Palestine and those other thunder cunts who keep saying kids are being deliberate targeted. 
 

The evidence is the majority of your posts in this thread. 👍

So that will be a no and another no then. Cheers. 👍

[London Wanderer]

2 hours ago, globaldiver said:

Israel will be doing their best to avoid innocent victims

Christ, that’s some statement. 

[London Wanderer]

25 minutes ago, deeane Koontz said:

 

 

They'll show as much regard to "innocent victims" as they do when they thieve land, displace folk and cut supplies off to innocent and desperate people 

 

 

 

They don’t displace innocent families in the West Bank on purpose. Only ‘thundercunts’ believe it’s deliberate 🙄

[royal white]

7 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

They don’t displace innocent families in the West Bank on purpose. Only ‘thundercunts’ believe it’s deliberate 🙄

Since when does Displacing someone translate to deliberately killing kids? 

[royal white]

26 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

So that will be a no and another no then. Cheers. 👍

Not like you to make things up 🙄🤥

[deeane Koontz]

5 hours ago, London Wanderer said:

They don’t displace innocent families in the West Bank on purpose. Only ‘thundercunts’ believe it’s deliberate 🙄

An accidental cleansing 👀

[stevieb]

On 25/10/2023 at 15:59, Spider said:

Quick survey:

Do you:

A) Not really give a fuck about Israel/Gaza but arguing passes ten minutes here and there

2) Absolutely not give a fuck about Israel/Gaza and simply want to poke a leftie/rightie with a stick attached to an Israeli/Palestinian flag

I’d put more options but realistically, there aren’t any.

 

Appreciate this was days ago...

Can I have 3) that is basically 2 but I don't like how Israel are going about their business and it's making me think the "west" haven't been as innocent as they've made out in our  past 'war on terror' escapades in my lifetime. 

I don't like Muslim terrorists.

I don't like Jews cutting off essential supplies to Muslims in their slither of Israel because it breeds more Muslim terrorists ultimately. 

I don't lose any sleep over either. 

I blame Bill Gates, George Soros and the ghost of kiev

[Tonge moor green jacket]

Given all the aid that has been pumped into Gaza over the years, why isn't so reliant on Israel for resources?

Surely they could have built more water plants, power generation etc etc?

A self ruling enclave after all.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3D04NB27x138Y&ved=2ahUKEwiy7YKEx5mCAxXhgf0HHfgxAlEQwqsBegQIGBAG&usg=AOvVaw1hagFs0oKlsKFFrsx_o9u5

Maybe this explains why.

As for international law- the lawyer said the "seige" is permitted under the correct circumstances and that those were in play now.

Not seen anything from anyone else to prove otherwise.

Commit a massive terrorist attack, and expect you victims to feed your and supply energy. Aye, OK.

Edited October 28, 2023 by Tonge moor green jacket

[London Wanderer]

1 hour ago, royal white said:

Since when does Displacing someone translate to deliberately killing kids? 

Children have been killed during displacements.

Children have also been killed in areas where Hamas aren’t in control.

Last year, 2022, was the deadliest year for Palestinian children in the West Bank in 15 years, and 2023 is on track to meet or exceed 2022 levels.

https://www.hrw.org/news/2023/08/28/west-bank-spike-israeli-killings-palestinian-children
 

Do you know anything about this conflict before October 7th? 🙈 Come on mate. Not like you to lie, must have been an accidental bullet or two 🙄

[London Wanderer]

1 hour ago, deeane Koontz said:

An accidental cleansing 👀

The lad’s flapping 

[royal white]

6 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

Children have been killed during displacements.

Children have also been killed in areas where Hamas aren’t in control.

Last year, 2022, was the deadliest year for Palestinian children in the West Bank in 15 years, and 2023 is on track to meet or exceed 2022 levels.

https://www.hrw.org/news/2023/08/28/west-bank-spike-israeli-killings-palestinian-children
 

Do you know anything about this conflict before October 7th? 🙈 Come on mate. Not like you to lie, must have been an accidental bullet or two 🙄

If You can’t differentiate between accidental and deliberate then that’s your fault. I don’t have much hope for those 8 year olds north of the border! 

[Mounts Kipper]

8 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

Children have been killed during displacements.

Children have also been killed in areas where Hamas aren’t in control.

Last year, 2022, was the deadliest year for Palestinian children in the West Bank in 15 years, and 2023 is on track to meet or exceed 2022 levels.

https://www.hrw.org/news/2023/08/28/west-bank-spike-israeli-killings-palestinian-children
 

Do you know anything about this conflict before October 7th? 🙈 Come on mate. Not like you to lie, must have been an accidental bullet or two 🙄

Perhaps they should’nt be throwing molatov cocktails. 

[London Wanderer]

2 minutes ago, royal white said:

If You can’t differentiate between accidental and deliberate then that’s your fault. I don’t have much hope for those 8 year olds north of the border! 

Haha

 back to the personal jabs 👏 right on cue when all else fails.

Let’s stop pretending that both sides aren’t acting on purpose. Then we can have a proper discussion about whether you think it is justified or not 👍

[royal white]

1 minute ago, London Wanderer said:

Haha

 back to the personal jabs 👏 right on cue when all else fails.

Let’s stop pretending that both sides aren’t acting on purpose. Then we can have a proper discussion about whether you think it is justified or not 👍

You’ve posted a link that says kids were throwing Molotov cocktails then ask why they get dead 😂 are you honestly this bone? 

[London Wanderer]

11 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Perhaps they should’nt be throwing molatov cocktails. 

Perhaps the IDF should begin by responding with tear gas and dispersal techniques. They don’t half make life hard for themselves in the long run. One lad was killed nowhere near whilst in his own, unarmed and throwing fck all. The others were shot in the back at chest level whilst running away. Don’t worry though, RW assures me it wasn’t on purpose 👍
 

You’re really not trying to excuse it though are you mate? 
 

“Israeli authorities have used excessive force against Palestinians in policing situations for decades. The authorities have routinely failed to hold their forces accountable when security forces kill Palestinians, including children, in circumstances in which the use of lethal force was not justified under international norms. From 2017 to 2021, fewer than one percent of complaints of violations by Israeli military forces against Palestinians, including killings and other abuses, resulted in indictments, the Israeli rights group Yesh Din reported.”

 

Edited October 28, 2023 by London Wanderer