Is it kicking off big time or is this just everyday stuff they deal with or a bit of both?

 

3 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Nope just the majority who were old enough to vote.

27% supported them in recent polls. They were deeply unpopular before recent events. I hope that trend continues as much as you do. But I can’t help but think that punishing an entire population won’t work.

https://www.foreignaffairs.com/israel/what-palestinians-really-think-hamas#:~:text=Just 27 percent of respondents,support in the 2021 survey.

Don’t want to bore you further with the facts either, but it wasn’t a very reliable election. And the outcome of total control of Gaza was not what the Palestinians voted for. Hamas gained 44% of the vote, so they don’t represent the majority of Palestinian people.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2023/10/was-hamas-elected-to-govern-gaza-george-w-bush-2006-palestinian-election.html#

2 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

27% supported them in recent polls. They were deeply unpopular before recent events. I hope that trend continues as much as you do. But I can’t help but think that punishing an entire population won’t work.

https://www.foreignaffairs.com/israel/what-palestinians-really-think-hamas#:~:text=Just 27 percent of respondents,support in the 2021 survey.

Don’t want to bore you further with the facts either, but it wasn’t a very reliable election. And the outcome of total control of Gaza was not what the Palestinians voted for. Hamas gained 44% of the vote, so they don’t represent the majority of Palestinian people.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2023/10/was-hamas-elected-to-govern-gaza-george-w-bush-2006-palestinian-election.html#

Corrupt as fuck, perhaps the Palestinians should attempt to sort it out….I’ve said it before but Israelis will be doing the Palestinians a favour if they crush Hamas. 

55 minutes ago, Cheese said:

So you think the entire population of Gaza want that because they elected Hamas 17 years ago, when most of the current population wasn't even BORN

 

4 hours ago, little whitt said:

this bit of land has Been forght over for over a 1000 years 

My  Take on the matter at hand 

your sitting Eating your Sunday Tea 

Gunmen come in 

KILL your Mum and Dad 

Rape your  Wife and KILL her 

Kidnap your Kids 

 

WHAT WOULD YOU DO 

to get you kids back (never mind your mum and dad and your dead wife )

 

You would use any Means Nessesary  to get them back and Seak  Revange 

 

 

 

I've read that and am not sure whether I'm meant to be a Jew or Palestinian  

But I'd want cold bloodied revenge 

Which is why we find ourselves where we are, in a never ending cycle of killing

20 minutes ago, Zico said:

I've read that and am not sure whether I'm meant to be a Jew or Palestinian  

But I'd want cold bloodied revenge 

Which is why we find ourselves where we are, in a never ending cycle of killing

Aye. Very good point 

Anyway, a Hamas surrender would mean firing would cease.

8 hours ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Corrupt as fuck, perhaps the Palestinians should attempt to sort it out….

They have tried.

Sorting out a dictatorship is harder than you’d think.

Though I thought you’d understand that?

1 hour ago, globaldiver said:

Anyway, a Hamas surrender would mean firing would cease.

There’s more chance of me voting for boris

1 hour ago, London Wanderer said:

They have tried.

Sorting out a dictatorship is harder than you’d think.

Though I thought you’d understand that?

I do understand it is hard, that’s why they need the west to remove Hamas and their hand held thereafter…. Probably go to shit again once the west leaves them to it. Stone Age religion will see to that.

31 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

I do understand it is hard, that’s why they need the west to remove Hamas and their hand held thereafter…. Probably go to shit again once the west leaves them to it. Stone Age religion will see to that.

Far more Muslims die fighting against extreme Islam than Westerners do. They protest and resist it constantly. But people see a Pro Palestine protest and just make their assumptions.

Hamas was born after one of Israel’s deadliest incursions in the 80s. Not all blame lies with Israel. But with Hamas dwindling in popularity before this latest flare up, it’s only fair to question whether this is playing into their hands?

Edited October 30, 20232 yr by London Wanderer

It seems everyone outside of Palestine and a high percentage inside of Palestine want Hamas gone. That’s good. And the majority of us know they won’t surrender. That’s not good. So how do they get rid? 

Oh dear

 

A slight aside- does my head in when you see toddlers brought onto demonstrations, especially so when they are likely to be heated and hate filled.

2 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

Oh dear

 

This is what your up against brainwashed Muslims taking none of the blame for Hamas actions…  these types simply want a world wide jihad against everyone….. if they killed everyone else they’d then start killing each other… wait a minute they’ve already started that. Let’s be clear Islam is a bit of a problem. 

5 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

 brainwashed Muslims taking none of the blame for Hamas actions… 

And why should they?

 

Just now, Casino said:

And why should they?

 

Because they are denouncing Israel but fail to see Hamas are complicit in everything that has happened since the massacre of innocents. 

42 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

A slight aside- does my head in when you see toddlers brought onto demonstrations, especially so when they are likely to be heated and hate filled.

Well, they’re brainwashed through the education system anyhow

1 hour ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Because they are denouncing Israel but fail to see Hamas are complicit in everything that has happened since the massacre of innocents. 

i'll put this down to you not reading what you have written, but you're making no sense

should i apologise for that latest yank crank

i suspect hes very loosely 'christian'

5 minutes ago, Casino said:

i'll put this down to you not reading what you have written, but you're making no sense

should i apologise for that latest yank crank

i suspect hes very loosely 'christian'

I think he’s saying you don’t  see many anti Hamas protests carried out by the Muslim community (sorry if I’m wrong Mk) 

4 minutes ago, royal white said:

I think he’s saying you don’t  see many anti Hamas protests carried out by the Muslim community (sorry if I’m wrong Mk) 

Exactly… it’s all Israel’s fault in Muslim world and casino world. 🤣

37 minutes ago, globaldiver said:

Well, they’re brainwashed through the education system anyhow

Post of the month ♥️

Horrific scenes in Ruski 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-67258332

As much as we despise Putin, be good to see him sort this lot out. 

Edited October 30, 20232 yr by London Wanderer

Just now, London Wanderer said:

Horrific scenes in Ruski 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-67258332

 

Looking for Roman. Are they Chelsea fans.  🤣

6 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Exactly… it’s all Israel’s fault in Muslim world and casino world. 🤣

fuck me

 

why should a muslim take any reponsibility for the actions of hamas, any more than you are responsible for jimmy fucking saville

10 minutes ago, Casino said:

fuck me

 

why should a muslim take any reponsibility for the actions of hamas, any more than you are responsible for jimmy fucking saville

Not take responsibility, call them out, if they can go to the trouble to turn out in their 1000s to demonstrate against Israel why not also demonstrate against Hamas?