Is it kicking off big time or is this just everyday stuff they deal with or a bit of both?

 

35 minutes ago, DazBob said:

Those parents are cunts.

indeed

though having listened to 3 weeks of terrified jews ringing LBC about how they cant venture out or go to school, id be surprised if they could turn a full team out, so i'll take the tale with a pinch of salt

Of course, there is a simple, elegant, if somewhat unlikely, solution.

Move Israel into upstate New York.

12 minutes ago, globaldiver said:

Of course, there is a simple, elegant, if somewhat unlikely, solution.

Move Israel into upstate New York.

im glad i didnt suggest that 

 

1 hour ago, DazBob said:

Those parents are cunts.

just find it incredibly sad. What a mess. Ridiculous 

1 hour ago, Casino said:

indeed

though having listened to 3 weeks of terrified jews ringing LBC about how they cant venture out or go to school, id be surprised if they could turn a full team out, so i'll take the tale with a pinch of salt

The club associated with the parent involved has issued a statement confirming investigations are ongoing and affirming that "If you, as parents, harbour prejudice of any kind that could affect your child's experience or our culture of inclusively, then we must be honest - this may not be the right club for you" so it appears at least something has gone on

You seem a bit incredulous that Jewish people may currently be feeling a heightened sense of intimidation and I'm not sure why

1 minute ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

The club associated with the parent involved has issued a statement confirming investigations are ongoing and affirming that "If you, as parents, harbour prejudice of any kind that could affect your child's experience or our culture of inclusively, then we must be honest - this may not be the right club for you" so it appears at least something has gone on

You seem a bit incredulous that Jewish people may currently be feeling a heightened sense of intimidation and I'm not sure why

The story came from a chap involved with the Jewish Chronicle. 

Casino can take as much salt as he wants to, but it doesn't make the story untrue.

Seems to be a much bigger level of antisemitism around, which is now creeping out all over.

 

7 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

You seem a bit incredulous that Jewish people may currently be feeling a heightened sense of intimidation and I'm not sure why

Jewish people are indeed currently feeling a heightened sense of intimidation.

Guess what, so are innocent Palestinians.

Let's go round in circles again. Hamas are cunts, Israel is behaving cuntishly, a ceasefire needs bringing about.

Just now, Traf said:

Jewish people are indeed currently feeling a heightened sense of intimidation.

Guess what, so are innocent Palestinians.

Let's go round in circles again. Hamas are cunts, Israel is behaving cuntishly, a ceasefire needs bringing about.

I'm referring to Jewish people in this country

For all the suffering the Palestinian diaspora is experiencing, there is little, if any, serious or credible threat of violence against them in the UK

The same, clearly, does not hold true for Jews

Just now, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

I'm referring to Jewish people in this country

For all the suffering the Palestinian diaspora is experiencing, there is little, if any, serious or credible threat of violence against them in the UK

The same, clearly, does not hold true for Jews

Was just going to say, does anyone know of any Palestinians over here getting a hard time? 

3 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

there is little, if any, serious or credible threat of violence against them in the UK

 

increased incidences of islamophobia have been reported in recent week

might all be invented, i dunno

anyway, as i have no wish to offend anybody and nobody is going to change their mind and innocents are going to carry on getting killed, im out

1 minute ago, royal white said:

Was just going to say, does anyone know of any Palestinians over here getting a hard time? 

No.

Just read an article in the Chronicle by Josh Howie.

Getting abuse whilst travelling- nothing will happen, and the Palestinian support is getting a free pass over here.

Hope I'm wrong, but I can see a huge kick off- maybe here or another country, which could see unrest spread all over.

Can even see a situation whereby these COBRA meetings are having to draw up worst case scenario plans.

7 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

No.

Just read an article in the Chronicle by Josh Howie.

Getting abuse whilst travelling- nothing will happen, and the Palestinian support is getting a free pass over here.

Hope I'm wrong, but I can see a huge kick off- maybe here or another country, which could see unrest spread all over.

Can even see a situation whereby these COBRA meetings are having to draw up worst case scenario plans.

4m Muslims, less than 300,000 Jews, means it’s much easier to attack one group and not so the other.

 

Edited October 30, 20232 yr by globaldiver

5 hours ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

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I think that when you read the Police's response and the context that it makes sense why they did what they did. 
 

Sadly it will have already gone viral and most won't have gone back and listened to the response. The problem with social media I guess. 

9 hours ago, globaldiver said:

Well, they’re brainwashed through the education system anyhow

Give over. 

 

58 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

I think that when you read the Police's response and the context that it makes sense why they did what they did. 
 

Sadly it will have already gone viral and most won't have gone back and listened to the response. The problem with social media I guess. 

An interesting one

I'd think it defensible if the justification were that it was targetted harassment, which it might plausibly be argued to be

On the basis they should be removed "to stop issues escalating and to avoid any further increase in community tension", less so

1 hour ago, globaldiver said:

4m Muslims, less than 300,000 Jews, means it’s much easier to attack one group and not so the other.

 

Law of averages of course.

Also culture and attitude though.

Like I said. Those protesting over here - knobs

 

 

 

1 hour ago, royal white said:

Like I said. Those protesting over here - knobs

 

 

 

What a bizarre concept. 

Grown up school bullies, absolutely nobody in that restaurant has anything to do with the atrocities over there. They're blissfully unaware that it's probably a franchise too.. 

Instead they have just wrecked the evening of everyone in there, with no gain themselves.

Again this bully boy mentality. 

42 minutes ago, only1swanny said:

What a bizarre concept. 

Grown up school bullies, absolutely nobody in that restaurant has anything to do with the atrocities over there. They're blissfully unaware that it's probably a franchise too.. 

Instead they have just wrecked the evening of everyone in there, with no gain themselves.

Again this bully boy mentality. 

Of all the shite I’ve read in these topics/ threads, calling McDonalds a restaurant is definitely in the top 3 

Extremist Israeli settlers in the West Bank, emboldened by recent events have stepped up their persecution and murder of Palestinian farmers living in the area, driving them off their homeland.
West Bank Palestinian villages have been denied planning permission to build homes, schools and hospitals by the occupiers for years and have had to endure settlers cutting off their electricity and water and having their roads blocked but now the messianists have taken the law into their own hands and are shooting farmers and openly stealing their land with the support of the right wing government. Anyone resisting being forced off their land is accused of supporting Hamas and arrested.

In a rare direct condemnation of the violence, President Biden said last week that attacks by “extremist settlers” amounted to “pouring gasoline” on fires already burning. “It has to stop,” he said. “They have to be held accountable.”

 

Edited October 31, 20232 yr by Wanderlust

8 hours ago, Wanderlust said:

Extremist Israeli settlers in the West Bank, emboldened by recent events have stepped up their persecution and murder of Palestinian farmers living in the area, driving them off their homeland.
West Bank Palestinian villages have been denied planning permission to build homes, schools and hospitals by the occupiers for years and have had to endure settlers cutting off their electricity and water and having their roads blocked but now the messianists have taken the law into their own hands and are shooting farmers and openly stealing their land with the support of the right wing government. Anyone resisting being forced off their land is accused of supporting Hamas and arrested.

In a rare direct condemnation of the violence, President Biden said last week that attacks by “extremist settlers” amounted to “pouring gasoline” on fires already burning. “It has to stop,” he said. “They have to be held accountable.”

 

It will be interesting to see how the Israel government deals with this it should arrest and put them on trial, if it does not then the Israeli government is culpable in the same way the that Palestinian government is for the massacres by Hamas. 

Edited October 31, 20232 yr by Mounts Kipper

3 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

It will be interesting to see how the Isreal government deals with this it should arrest and put them on trial, if it does not then the Israeli government is culpable in the same way the that Palestinian government is for the massacres by Hamas. 

An Israeli minister was interviewed about it on Channel 4 last night and if his answers to questions are anything to go by, I wouldn't be hopeful.

21 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

It will be interesting to see how the Isreal government deals with this it should arrest and put them on trial, if it does not then the Israeli government is culpable in the same way the that Palestinian government is for the massacres by Hamas. 

There is no proper Palistinian government. The closest to one is the PA which is mainly Fatah and has limited power in the occupied West Bank only.

Hamas controls Gaza and rules as a dictatorship, killing anyone opposed to them.

The PA is in no way culpable for Hamas.

Just now, Mounts Kipper said:

It will be interesting to see how the Isreal government deals with this it should arrest and put them on trial, if it does not then the Israeli government is culpable in the same way the that Palestinian government is for the massacres by Hamas. 

That's the point though. The Israeli Government is behind it.

The messaianists believe that God won't return to earth until the Israelis own all the land between the Red Sea and the River Jordan which includes all of the West Bank and when God returns all other people including Christians and Muslims will become the "slaves of the Jewish people".

International Law says otherwise, but the Israelis have flouted it for years and are systematically driving the Palestinians out of Palestine leaving them with nowhere to go. The Israeli government not only endorses the actions of the settlers but uses it's army to enforce settlement and the expulsion of the Palestinians - hence the uprising - a by-product of which has been the acceleration of the killings and evictions in the West Bank in recent weeks.

The main tactic however has been to harrass the Palestinians off their land, deny non-Jews any right to build on their own land whilst simultaneously running massive construction projects to build Jewish settlements and encourage a massive influx of settlers into the area - 50 years ago there were practically no Jews in the West Bank and occupied East Jerusalem - now there are over 600k.

In some cases they literally steal people's homes and get the army in to back them up.