Anne Boleyn on Channel 5

[deane koontz]

 Anne Upton ?

Edited May 26, 2021 by deane koontz

[DazBob]

30 minutes ago, deane koontz said:

 Anne Upton ?

Very Good

[Guest]

Does it matter, as long as they can act?

[FrancisFogarty]

1 hour ago, DazBob said:

Who's arsed, really?

Jesus has been depicted as a white bloke for centuries.

And on occasions, a woman.

[London Wanderer]

14 hours ago, Spider said:

But, can you imagine the reaction if Sean Bean was cast in the role of Martin Luther King?

"Reet lads. I have a dream from tuver day".

Seany boy would do a cracking job. Go all out and get Stephen Graham to play Malcolm X.

[London Wanderer]

1 hour ago, boltondiver said:

Does it matter, as long as they can act?

This

[DirtySanchez]

I’d forgotten channel 5 existed 

[Zico]

2 hours ago, DazBob said:

Who's arsed, really?

Jesus has been depicted as a white bloke for centuries.

 

 

[DazBob]

Whatever next?  Blokes playing women in panto??

[Escobarp]

I will draw the line if they mess about with James Bond. 

[DazBob]

16 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

I will draw the line if they mess about with James Bond. 

Idris Elba. Nailed on

[Escobarp]

2 minutes ago, DazBob said:

Idris Elba. Nailed on

Messing with the fabric of our society here 

[Burnden Pies]

1 hour ago, boltondiver said:

Does it matter, as long as they can act?

I actually think it does matter. Not just because it's a glaring historical inaccuracy, when I assume the programme makers have gone to great lengths to make everything else historically accurate; it's also because we all suspect where the motivation for doing this has come from - a kind of weird white middle class guilt complex that thinks garbage tokenism like this is a step to redressing a societal imbalance and years of discrimination. It's totally misguided, and I think it actually insults both the audience and the actor.

If it's just about the talent of the actor or actress do you honestly think a white actor would currently be cast to play an historically prominent person of colour like MLK, Muhammad Ali etc? The answer is no because that would be as patently daft as having a black actress play Anne Boleyn

[Escobarp]

1 minute ago, Burnden Pies said:

I actually think it does matter. Not just because it's a glaring historical inaccuracy, when I assume the programme makers have gone to great lengths to make everything else historically accurate; it's also because we all suspect where the motivation for doing this has come from - a kind of weird white middle class guilt complex that thinks garbage tokenism like this is a step to redressing a societal imbalance and years of discrimination. It's totally misguided, and I think it actually insults both the audience and the actor.

If it's just about the talent of the actor or actress do you honestly think a white actor would currently be cast to play an historically prominent person of colour like MLK, Muhammad Ali etc? The answer is no because that would be as patently daft as having a black actress play Anne Boleyn

Sense prevails finally 

[Escobarp]

I’ve just put my hat in the ring for playing Sasha Johnson when the low budget film about her is inevitably made. 

[Rudy]

1 minute ago, Escobarp said:

I’ve just put my hat in the ring for playing Sasha Johnson when the low budget film about her is inevitably made. 

I’m going for the lead in a Tommeh Robinson biopic role 

like this 

[Escobarp]

Just now, Rudy said:

I’m going for the lead in a Tommeh Robinson biopic role 

like this 

Absolutely nothing wrong with that and NOBODY would think it was strange either. It’s the new norm, apparently.  
 

@Spiderwould make a cracking Martin Luther king I reckon 

[jmjhb]

42 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

I will draw the line if they mess about with James Bond. 

How about a female 007? There's going to be one in the upcoming film.

Edited May 26, 2021 by jmjhb

[jmjhb]

Les Battersby is returning to Corrie as a black woman

[Not in Crawley]

22 minutes ago, Burnden Pies said:

I actually think it does matter. Not just because it's a glaring historical inaccuracy, when I assume the programme makers have gone to great lengths to make everything else historically accurate; it's also because we all suspect where the motivation for doing this has come from - a kind of weird white middle class guilt complex that thinks garbage tokenism like this is a step to redressing a societal imbalance and years of discrimination. It's totally misguided, and I think it actually insults both the audience and the actor.

If it's just about the talent of the actor or actress do you honestly think a white actor would currently be cast to play an historically prominent person of colour like MLK, Muhammad Ali etc? The answer is no because that would be as patently daft as having a black actress play Anne Boleyn

Who said dramas had to be historically accurate? Pretty sure William Wallace wasn't from Australia.

Marine Peake's Hamlet was fantastic. 

Where do you draw the line? Do you not agree with updating or re setting other texts?

It's there to be explored.

[Escobarp]

7 minutes ago, jmjhb said:

How about a female 007? There's going to be one in the upcoming film.

I’m not keen. Wait til they have to adapt the Aston Martin for the wheelchair as well

 

 

[Escobarp]

Rumour is they’re doing a blockbuster film about Nelson Mandela next year with Susan calman as Mandela  and ray winston as winnie. Who needs accuracy eh. I will be watching that for sure. Can’t wait 

[Burnden Pies]

15 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

Who said dramas had to be historically accurate? Pretty sure William Wallace wasn't from Australia.

Marine Peake's Hamlet was fantastic. 

Where do you draw the line? Do you not agree with updating or re setting other texts?

It's there to be explored.

I know, I know, I just don't get it. To be consistent then they should mix up the entire cast and instead of trying to replicate Hampton Court they should film it in The Griffin 

[Zico]

53 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

Who said dramas had to be historically accurate? Pretty sure William Wallace wasn't from Australia.

Marine Peake's Hamlet was fantastic. 

Where do you draw the line? Do you not agree with updating or re setting other texts?

It's there to be explored.

I don't recall Braveheart wearing a cork hat?

all just seems like trying to hard to be right on for the sake of being right on but whatever

I can't even claim I won't be watching it now, because I wouldn't have anyway

[Not in Crawley]

I've done my long post of this, can't be arse repeating myself on it, it is an issue that has been debated for years. My views on it are the widening of access to everyone to portray whoever they want is interesting and keeps things moving. Drama, art or whatever isn't a historical artefact its by adaption things have moved on. I also agree with the points made that colourblind casting can just be another way of only having one section of society's stories being told under the guise of inclusion but each reading done by a different person brings something new to it.

And yes, having the griffin as Hampton Court would be interesting actually. Henry VIII as a despotic landlord or gangland boss wanting to pass on his business. The story can be reinterpreted quite easily. People loved SoA on here, and that was just bloody Hamlet with motorbikes almost beat for beat.