Covid-19

[little whitt]

53 minutes ago, Mr Grey said:

AZ - 1 & 2

PFIZER - BOOSTER

Like mixing your drinks, but I'm told it works better 🤷

Same tell me how you feel in 24hrs 

[DazBob]

52 minutes ago, royal white said:

Zee Germans are doing it right 
 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10267391/Germany-set-approve-lockdown-unvaccinated-today.html?ito=social-facebook&fbclid=IwAR1fWwJJ4Vcu_gttFxCRxKNG6GQ8R3C8bg7FVb9VZjg9CBbycGb2UZ29zZY

I really hope we do the same.

[stevieb]

8 minutes ago, Spider said:

Some sort of armband is probably a good idea.

Any designs we can think of?

A yellow star? 

[Zico]

55 minutes ago, royal white said:

Zee Germans are doing it right 
 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10267391/Germany-set-approve-lockdown-unvaccinated-today.html?ito=social-facebook&fbclid=IwAR1fWwJJ4Vcu_gttFxCRxKNG6GQ8R3C8bg7FVb9VZjg9CBbycGb2UZ29zZY

was just reading about this on the bbc

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-59501192

this bit:

Germany will ban unvaccinated people from shops and bars, unless they have recently recovered from Covid

I get how a vaccine passport would work

but not how to prove you've recently recovered

be interesting to see how they police that

[DazBob]

4 minutes ago, Mr Grey said:

The Germans do realise that the Vaccinated and Un-vaccinated (That means everybody) can spread covid-19 🙄

Do they both spread it as much as one another?

[Tonge moor green jacket]

35 minutes ago, stevieb said:

Same here. 

Lock us unvaxxed up permanently hard lockdown then when you jab shaggers are still getting ill, still being hospitalised and still dying you might realise it isn't the unvaccinated that were to blame. 

Sounds a reasonable idea. 

We'll cope quite well I reckon.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

8 minutes ago, DazBob said:

Do they both spread it as much as one another?

Of course not. Unvaccinated have superior immune systems and can go about their business completely unaffected.

In fact, if they stopped vaccinating people, then the virus would go away. Simples.

[stevieb]

21 minutes ago, Zico said:

was just reading about this on the bbc

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-59501192

this bit:

Germany will ban unvaccinated people from shops and bars, unless they have recently recovered from Covid

I get how a vaccine passport would work

but not how to prove you've recently recovered

be interesting to see how they police that

They do that now over here. Its 6 months from a positive PCR test. 

I've got til end of May before I'm a leper 

 

Edit... Even though the lancet has published natural immunity can be anything from 3 to 61 months. 

We've got an arbitrary 6 months. 

Because it's too much like hard work to keep people proving they've got natural immunity. 

Edited December 2, 2021 by stevieb

[Tonge moor green jacket]

2 minutes ago, stevieb said:

They do that now over here. Its 6 months from a positive PCR test. 

I've got til end of May before I'm a leper 

Don't worry, just get reinfected every 6 months. Far easier than a vaccine of the same frequency.

[stevieb]

Just now, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Don't worry, just get reinfected every 6 months. Far easier than a vaccine of the same frequency.

That's my plan. 

[Sweep]

1 hour ago, royal white said:

Zee Germans are doing it right 
 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10267391/Germany-set-approve-lockdown-unvaccinated-today.html?ito=social-facebook&fbclid=IwAR1fWwJJ4Vcu_gttFxCRxKNG6GQ8R3C8bg7FVb9VZjg9CBbycGb2UZ29zZY

If they've done it, I reckon we'll follow suit.......I really hope that we do anyway 🙂

[mickbrown]

1 hour ago, Spider said:

Some sort of armband is probably a good idea.

Any designs we can think of?

Made from tin foil.

[mickbrown]

34 minutes ago, stevieb said:

They do that now over here. Its 6 months from a positive PCR test. 

I've got til end of May before I'm a leper 

 

Edit... Even though the lancet has published natural immunity can be anything from 3 to 61 months. 

We've got an arbitrary 6 months. 

Because it's too much like hard work to keep people proving they've got natural immunity. 

Oh dear......

'We believe that previous infection does not provide protection from Omicron,” said Anne von Gottberg, an expert at the National Institute for Communicable Diseases in South Africa.

 

[mickbrown]

57 minutes ago, Mr Grey said:

The Germans do realise that the Vaccinated and Un-vaccinated (That means everybody) can spread covid-19 🙄

Nope. If you're vaccinated you're less likely to catch it, therefore less likely to spread it.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

19 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

Nope. If you're vaccinated you're less likely to catch it, therefore less likely to spread it.

Waste of breath at times.

Let's look for anything, however small, inaccurate, or disingenuous to promote a position remote from common sense.

If some of these areas in Germany had taken up the vaccine at a higher level, their hospitals wouldn't be straining under the weight of covid cases.

 

[mickbrown]

2 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Waste of breath at times.

Let's look for anything, however small, inaccurate, or disingenuous to promote a position remote from common sense.

If some of these areas in Germany had taken up the vaccine at a higher level, their hospitals wouldn't be straining under the weight of covid cases.

 

You're less likely to catch it, less likely to pass it on, less likely to be hospitalised and less likely to die.

I mean, what's the facking point of having the jab eh?

[mickbrown]

3 minutes ago, Mr Grey said:

However it still doesn't  stop the Vaccinated spreading it if they have it 🤷

It does actually. You're less likely to pass it on if you're vaccinated.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

2 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

You're less likely to catch it, less likely to pass it on, less likely to be hospitalised and less likely to die.

I mean, what's the facking point of having the jab eh?

It's got fings in it.

[Winchester White]

4 minutes ago, Mr Grey said:

However it still doesn't  stop the Vaccinated spreading it if they have it 🤷

Nope, no vaccine can do that for any virus or disease. It does however reduce the chances that you do pass it on. Just like it reduces the chances you will catch it in the first place.

[DazBob]

6 minutes ago, Mr Grey said:

However it still doesn't  stop the Vaccinated spreading it if they have it 🤷

No, it doesn't stop it, but there's much less chance of them spreading it.  You obviously know this but seem determined to argue a point that is, well, pointless.

Have your little Sebastians have been bending your ear?

[Tonge moor green jacket]

Just now, mickbrown said:

It does actually. You're less likely to pass it on if you're vaccinated.

Maybe time to give up.

Like I said, if folk want to ignore proven science, then there's not much else to do.

Alfred Russell Wallace would be quite fascinated to see all this.

 

 

 

[Sweep]

1 minute ago, Mr Grey said:

So your saying the vaccinated CANNOT spread covid-19 ?

That's what he's saying (I think)  - but he's wrong

[Winchester White]

1 minute ago, Mr Grey said:

So your saying the vaccinated CANNOT spread covid-19 ?

Err.. did you actually read my post?

It reduces the chances of catching it and also passing it on if you are unfortunate enough to catch it.

[mickbrown]

2 minutes ago, Mr Grey said:

So your saying the vaccinated CANNOT spread covid-19 ?

They can, but less likely than an unvaxxed person

Viral load innit.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

Just now, Mr Grey said:

Ffs! If you catch covid whilst your vaccinated, you can pass it on.

 

Ffs- no one is disagreeing. 

You will spread it much less though.

Which also means fewer cases, less hospitalisation, and very probably fewer variants.