Covid-19

[Mounts Kipper]

8 hours ago, Cheese said:

Enjoy your couple of months of "freedom". Guarantee we'll be locked down again in September when another mutation runs riot because a load of utter pussies might "feel oppressed 😥" by being asked to occasionally wear a mask indoors for a few more weeks.

Runs riot? Deaths below 20 a day, infection rates don’t matter, unless said variant isn’t stopped by vaccination and deaths start leaping up then we should be cracking on. 

[Cheese]

16 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Runs riot? Deaths below 20 a day, infection rates don’t matter, unless said variant isn’t stopped by vaccination and deaths start leaping up then we should be cracking on. 

Restrictions haven't been lifted yet...

[Spider]

8 hours ago, Cheese said:

Meanwhile, the right to peacefully protest is about to be taken away, and citizens who can't afford an official form of Identification won't be allowed to vote. This is England.

You can peacefully protest.

But peaceful is the operative word here. No shouting, no chanting, nothing to upset passers by.

The police can decide routes.

They missed one massive trick here by not insisting that everyone has a fucking wash before they turn up.

 

Waste of time.

[Mounts Kipper]

44 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Restrictions haven't been lifted yet...

Regardless, increased deaths are inevitable, same as bad flu years, we were told lockdown was only to protect NHS, that should be the only reason to lockdown in future & only as a last resort. 

Edited July 6, 2021 by Mounts Kipper

[Cheese]

11 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Regardless, increased deaths are inevitable, same as bad flu years, we were told lockdown was only to protect NHS, that should be the only reason to lockdown in future & only as a last resort. 

Watch this space...

[Rudy]

13 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Regardless, increased deaths are inevitable, same as bad flu years, we were told lockdown was only to protect NHS, that should be the only reason to lockdown in future & only as a last resort. 

In a side note about the NHS they need to crack in as well they can’t keep pushing resources toward this when it seems like we’re through the worst of it and they have a backlog or surgeries, procedures and a&e waiting times to bring down

 

[Spider]

A variant that evades the vaccine is inevitable i reckon.

They need to call the new variants better names, like “The Suffocator” or “The Lung Dissolver” or “The Savile”

Keep everyone on their toes, like.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

Cases will inevitably rise- talk on the bbc this morning of maybe 100,000 per day.

That in itself doesn't matter, just the admissions. If they do get too high, then who knows. If we do want the nhs to catch up on the backlogs, then presumably they will have a level of cases that they can manage, but beyond that?

It was notable yesterday, that neither whitty nor Johnson categorically ruled out some level of restriction in the future, with the former laying out how the current 9 day doubling would quickly lead to big numbers.

That said, the authorities aren't daft, they can see the situation, and folk increasingly returning towards normal behaviour. Modelling will take all this sort of thing into account, and the announcement made sense.

Like every single measure in this pandemic, some strongly disagree whereas others say they should have happened earlier. Just interviewed one mon with a condition who isn't happy. He went on to say he hadn't been out since it started, and it was wrong to open up. Just wish the interviewer had asked him, if he hadn't come out during restrictions, then when would he ever?

The whole nation can't be held back because of a very small minority.

Time to start to move on, but people have to play their part too.

[Spider]

30 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Cases will inevitably rise- talk on the bbc this morning of maybe 100,000 per day.

That in itself doesn't matter, just the admissions. If they do get too high, then who knows. If we do want the nhs to catch up on the backlogs, then presumably they will have a level of cases that they can manage, but beyond that?

It was notable yesterday, that neither whitty nor Johnson categorically ruled out some level of restriction in the future, with the former laying out how the current 9 day doubling would quickly lead to big numbers.

That said, the authorities aren't daft, they can see the situation, and folk increasingly returning towards normal behaviour. Modelling will take all this sort of thing into account, and the announcement made sense.

Like every single measure in this pandemic, some strongly disagree whereas others say they should have happened earlier. Just interviewed one mon with a condition who isn't happy. He went on to say he hadn't been out since it started, and it was wrong to open up. Just wish the interviewer had asked him, if he hadn't come out during restrictions, then when would he ever?

The whole nation can't be held back because of a very small minority.

Time to start to move on, but people have to play their part too.

Indeed.

I think the roadmap was about right, no complaints from me. And I love complaining me, I do.

They need to start asking people who are scared of it whether they act this way about everything in life that is a risk ?

Ive not, to my knowledge, had Covid. Looks like I’m going to get it at some point but I have my vaccine flavoured invincibility juice in the system so fucking bring it on.

[Escobarp]

See Javid has confirmed self isolation rules will Be different for double jabbed than those who aren’t.  Will It make a difference ? As are these people actually self isolating anyway?

[Spider]

Don't know how true this is 

Israel - which has the bestest vaccination programme - is now saying that after 3 months the vaccine efficacy has dropped from 94% down to 63% (and heading downwards).

So, we may be needing a jab every 12 weeks.

That could get a bit awkward.

 

[Rudy]

8 minutes ago, Spider said:

Don't know how true this is 

Israel - which has the bestest vaccination programme - is now saying that after 3 months the vaccine efficacy has dropped from 94% down to 63% (and heading downwards).

So, we may be needing a jab every 12 weeks.

That could get a bit awkward.

 

NHS be giving out more jabs than Ike Turner 

[Mounts Kipper]

55 minutes ago, Spider said:

Don't know how true this is 

Israel - which has the bestest vaccination programme - is now saying that after 3 months the vaccine efficacy has dropped from 94% down to 63% (and heading downwards).

So, we may be needing a jab every 12 weeks.

That could get a bit awkward.

 

Pfizer & Biontech jabs.

[Cheese]

The beauty of this "freedom day" nonsense is that when we're inevitably forced back into lockdown again when the hospitals start filling up, the blame will lie solely with "the public" for making the wrong choices. Teflon policy.

Edited July 6, 2021 by Cheese

[stevieb]

12 minutes ago, Cheese said:

The beauty of this "freedom day" nonsense is that when we're inevitably forced back into lockdown again when the hospitals start filling up, the blame will lie solely with "the public" for making the wrong choices. Teflon policy.

Fucking hell cheese your beginning to sound as tinfoil as me. You are 100% bang on the money though said the same yesterday 

[stevieb]

1 hour ago, Spider said:

Don't know how true this is 

Israel - which has the bestest vaccination programme - is now saying that after 3 months the vaccine efficacy has dropped from 94% down to 63% (and heading downwards).

So, we may be needing a jab every 12 weeks.

That could get a bit awkward.

 

If only anyone could have seen this coming. 

Most people will be 5 jabs in before the penny drops... still hiding behind their sofa wearing masks in their car alone before they realise all that's happened is some politicians have lined their mates pockets for shite contracts we probably didn't need while big pharma rake it in every 3 months. 

Just the flu, bro! Mounts was right. 

[Cheese]

1 hour ago, Spider said:

Don't know how true this is 

Israel - which has the bestest vaccination programme - is now saying that after 3 months the vaccine efficacy has dropped from 94% down to 63% (and heading downwards).

So, we may be needing a jab every 12 weeks.

That could get a bit awkward.

Israel reinstated their indoor face mask mandate 10 days after dropping it, because their Delta infection rate quadrupled...

[Escobarp]

1 hour ago, stevieb said:

Fucking hell cheese your beginning to sound as tinfoil as me. You are 100% bang on the money though said the same yesterday 

But is it not what people have been asking for? To use common sense etc?

we all Now know what increases risk of transmission and some will be sensible some will fuck it up but these are same people who were anyway. 
 

I will wear a mask in certain situations out of choice. If I catch it I ain’t blaming anyone else. 
 

we do need to crack on now. But have to accept it comes with risks attached and we as individuals need to acknowledge that and deal with the fall out of any. IMO 

[Spider]

There's an interesting metaphor to be considered here.

An unwanted lifeform has invaded our shores and the woke mob won't rest until it is fully eradicated, whereas those generally considered intolerant and right wing are happy to live side by side with it.

The visionaries win again.

Where's Miami?

 

[bolton_blondie]

They are getting rid of school bubbles finally. 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

2 hours ago, Spider said:

There's an interesting metaphor to be considered here.

An unwanted lifeform has invaded our shores and the woke mob won't rest until it is fully eradicated, whereas those generally considered intolerant and right wing are happy to live side by side with it.

The visionaries win again.

Where's Miami?

 

A bit of a generalisation there.

In response to stevieb- what would you have the authorities so?

I'm intrigued, as like most things in life, many have been unfortunate with this virus, often through no fault of their own. On the other hand, many can have no one else to blame but themselves.

It's impossible to do the right thing by everyone if not everyone wants the same things.

Now that we're opening up; how long before folk start complaining that they've caught the virus from being down the boozer or similar? Can't win.

[Zico]

All the old folk I know who died of it caught it in hospital going in for something else 

That's the key for me, so long as hospitalisations are low and safer it should be a safer place for them  

With boosters and the vulnerable taking precautions, they should be ok 

The Delta variant is spreading but not doing much apparent damage when there are vaccines and precautions in place  

Barring a vaccine beating variant, so long as that continues where and when required, we should be ok 

Or so I think

[RONNIE PHILLIPS]

1 hour ago, Zico said:

All the old folk I know who died of it caught it in hospital going in for something else 

That's the key for me, so long as hospitalisations are low and safer it should be a safer place for them  

With boosters and the vulnerable taking precautions, they should be ok 

The Delta variant is spreading but not doing much apparent damage when there are vaccines and precautions in place  

Barring a vaccine beating variant, so long as that continues where and when required, we should be ok 

Or so I think

As its always been Zico. Old folk going into hospital with illnesses die from pneumonia brought on by their condition or often by the fact they are left lying down too long. 

[DaisyHWanderer]

On 05/07/2021 at 18:47, Nic1 said:

I don't trust those rapid tests. Youngest has a cold, did the test really really faint line on positive, so we all did a test all negative..this morning she's negative and another after lunch at school, negative again.

Anyway, had second jab today. The stickers have come on I have to say, slightly thicker GSM with vinyl finish. Very nice.

Had exact same last week. Really really faint line (been doing 2 a week for work since Jan and never had any sign of a line before), did another was negative. Had a PCR test to be sure and that came back negative. 

[Traf]

If you dip the swab in some ketchup and do an LFT with it, it comes out as a positive.

Handy hint if you need a few days off work 😉