I realise some of you may have zero interest in this which is fair enough but from time to time I like to have a snoop on OppositionWays out of curiosity. Thought it was worth compiling some together which I'll do in this thread whenever I get chance. 

Seems like Lincoln have some pretty level headed fans but then one or two absolutely bitter fuckers. 

Pick of the bunch includes:

THE BITTER

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How about 10 points deducted for every £million of debt a club has?
Wonder just how low these perennial cheats would drop?

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Red Wimp said:

Bolton stayed in Lincoln last night. Not leaving much to chance.

No that was so they could rack up extra debt.

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Surely we can't lose to these cheats?
Why are they not on multiple minus points?

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I'd rather be us than them. How long do they have to pay their debt?

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The simple truth is, as much as the away fans won't want to admit it, we lost to one of those vile clubs tonight. One of those that has spent beyond their means, and clearly continues to do so.

 

THE PRAISE

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Good game. Shit result.
By the standards of last season Bolton should be pushing for promotion. But then that was last season.

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Beaten by the better team. Good to see a big away following.

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FT. Good game. Credit to Bolton - they did enough to control the game throughout, although we had some bright moments, especially in the first half. They also scored at exactly the right time and managed the game out. 

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Bolton also look like a really good side who should be in the top half of the table.

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I have backed Bolton to win the league as I think they are a decent team. They looked like a very settled team that are used to winning.

Taken from https://forums.vitalfootball.co.uk/threads/match-thread-lincoln-city-v-bolton-wanderers.117675/page-25 

37 minutes ago, Duck Egg said:

I did spot this little gem on the Sunderland site that I thought summed us up

"Bolton are all fart and no shite"

Actually a bit of reality in that.

Two league games on the bounce, playing well, having lots of ball, but not one goal.

We must improve our end product- though Evatt is perfectly aware of that and will be doing all he can to correct it.

A bit of normal refereeing last night though, and 1 or 2 nil would have provided enough shite and 3 points.

sounds like we need to sign Sturridge sharpish

Whilst I find this a very interesting thread and looking at alternative views from other forums isn’t a new thing, I think that maybe there could be a playing to the audience from some of the comments posted.

After all we have on here our own attention seeking look at me type of controversial posters. The DMB twat and hugecunt, spring to mind. 

2 hours ago, Zico said:

sounds like we need to sign Sturridge sharpish

No need. We've pipped City to kane's signature, but too late to do it deadline day.

Be here in Jan.

5 hours ago, Duck Egg said:

I did spot this little gem on the Sunderland site that I thought summed us up

"Bolton are all fart and no shite"

Classic

Very good.

Now they can fk off

Right. Finally got to sit down for the night. Too much shit, not enough time.

From Burton Ways, we have...

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All I have to say at this time is Financial Fair Play Rules !

(albeit this might be something to do with them being on TV? Not sure.

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At the minute I'd take a 0-0 as we're as flat as a pancake. Having a slow back four is pinning us back in our own half.

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Brayford sent off. The ref has unfortunately been rather one sided, as you'd expect at a big away ground.

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I've got to say I didn't enjoy much of that game and whilst delighted with a point we are not going to win many friends playing like that especially in front of the Sky cameras when we had a chance to show how good we can be.

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The worrying thing is that if we had gone 1-0 down at any point in tonight's game it would've been game over. It's one thing not looking like scoring but it's almost as if we're more focused on defending than actually trying to score.

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Let’s be honest. We stole a point there.
Should have lost 3 or 4 nil, so we should be delighted.

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Tonight confirmed that Blake Tracy shouldn't be near our starting XI

Only on for 5 minutes but was absolutely brain dead and so lucky to not give a penalty 

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he gave to ref a decision to make by putting two hands on the players back, but I'm not sure from what I saw that there was sufficient a shove to make the player fall over like that. Not sure he was getting to it anyway as the ball looked like it was going over his head. Far from the absolute nailed on penalty that is being reported and I can see why the ref didn't give it. It was a foolish thing to do though.

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All about angles for me. From the camera behind Blake-Tracey it looks bad. From the one facing the goal it looks reasonably innocuous and that Delfounso goes over much too easily.
For the disallowed goal Doyle was offside and I felt impeded Garrett’s opportunity to make the save. The Sky pundits had strong views which probably influenced many.

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Well , it's a point . Nothing to be positive about going forward .

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I hate being negative, but that was poor. 

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Bolton as a club still with outstanding creditors to settle up they shouldn't even be in the league, I just wanted us not to let them take more than a point.

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I think Bolton are a good side under Ian Evatt, more so than we have given credit for. They are 10 times our size and to come away from there with a point is still a good result.

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Tonight for me was just not football the way I see it. To just set up not to lose a game, get behind the ball, stifle the opposition’s strengths at the expense of playing to ours. No. It’s not for me. We can do better. Or were Bolton just that good?

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PS. There is a wonderful irony that Bolton fans are giving us grief for turning up and playing like that when Sam Allardyce basically created that way of playing, kept them in the top flight for a decade and got them into Europe off the back of it. Karma’s a bitch isn’t it.

 

And now for Mackem ways...

PRE MATCH

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We’re forever denied the opportunity to see Declan John play

(Were they linked or something? What's the connection?)

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So we're looking for a Bolton win here...

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Interested in this one. See how good a lot of peoples dark horse Bolton are.

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We’re Bolton we’re barmeh we’re on the piss tonight!

DURING

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I know it's the same when we're playing too, but bloody hell the standard of football in this divison is absolutely putrid, isn't it?

It's borderline unwatchable for a neutral.

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Santos from bolton ment be class

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it takes commitment to watch a match in this division when it’s not Sunderland playing mind. Ranks pretty low on the entertainment scale.

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It’s not an easy watch

*a few posts about the ref being a wanker for the offside call*

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How’s that been ruled out he’s nowhere near the keeper?

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Disgraceful decision, perfectly good goal.

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No way was that offside not a chance he was interfering with the keeper

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It’s a joke man. If you’re not 100% sure let a perfectly well created and finished goal stand

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Disgraceful decision to disallow it. Bolton very impressive, to be honest we battered these but failed to score, god knows how.

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If either of these teams finish within 25 points of us, we will have failed in doing our own job.

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Bolton look a good footballing side.

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Impressed with Bolton, how that got disallowed is a disgrace, only thing I can think is the linesman thought he touched it before it went in. My luck like, backed Bolton

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Ian Evatt highley rated manager at this level

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100% given offside because of the reaction of the goalkeeper and Burton players.

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Bolton could be ones to watch this season.

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The Bolton striker has a honking touch.
Also, the quality of the “crosses” is making me think I should be far less critical of Lynden Gooch.

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As poor as they’ve been going forward Burton have defended well. Final ball from Bolton has let them down

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Very little quality displayed from either team. 

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Never been so confident we are going up this year, these two are some of the better sides and are abysmal.

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That number 5 for Bolton is absolutely shite

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That Kachunga doesn’t seem to have much desire to attack a ball mind.

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Bolton’s defence is really dodgy.

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As if the referee missed that. 

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Where’s the ref from or he’s had pound on Burton

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That’s a push. Penna surely

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This ref is absolutely useless. He was a chef he would confuse the spoon and fork.

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Burton very tenacious, Bolton, for all the ball they had, clueless.

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Bolton players heading ability certainly lacking in the the last 10 minutes. Glorious chances went begging.

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You looked superb. A real threat to the league for the season to come

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bolton played really well but your strikers are very poor..

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Got to say I thought Bolton looked a very decent side.
Lacked a finisher, but play football on the deck, plenty pace, and strong overall. My Ipswich mate thinks they're gonna bladder you Satday, but what he vases that on, I have no idea.

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i can only coment on what i saw last night.. that sarcevic is dreadfull.. i asumed he was a striker.. 

 

Nice one. 

Sunderlandways seem to like us. 

Burton were dogshit but if we can't break teams like that down we're going to struggle. 

1 hour ago, matty2094 said:

And now for Mackem ways...

PRE MATCH

(Were they linked or something? What's the connection?)

RE Declan John; they had him on loan until January last season. He never played a minute for them, which is when we took him for the rest of the season. 

On 07/09/2021 at 22:33, stevieb said:

Nice one. 

Sunderlandways seem to like us. 

Burton were dogshit but if we can't break teams like that down we're going to struggle. 

I think it's more they hate Burton for beating them with one shot on target

Surprised at some of the comments about Santos, yes he had a bit of a mare second half and got away with it but other than that seemed dominant against everything and passing was all good too.

Burton with the classic jibes about our finances that everyone is clearly an expert on. 

Didn't know much about Burton's style of play before they played us but I wouldn't have expected a Dutch striker in JFH to be one to play the shithouse way.

Not arsed about someone's style of play, it's up to them. 

Biggest surprise was how little they offered, even playing the long ball.

Any style can be effective if done well, they just didn't. Perhaps that was testament to how well we played.

I’m out at the Brisca Stock Car World Final tonight so will get this done in the morning.

In the meantime though, I’ll leave you with this from pre-match…

“They were in League 2 last season one year removed from being a full blown basket case. Let's not talk this fixture up as being tough.”

28 minutes ago, matty2094 said:

I’m out at the Brisca Stock Car World Final tonight so will get this done in the morning.

In the meantime though, I’ll leave you with this from pre-match…

“They were in League 2 last season one year removed from being a full blown basket case. Let's not talk this fixture up as being tough.”

They were right. It wasn't tough.
for us.

Ian Evatts super white army. 

 

E I E I E I O

Looking forward to this one Matty 

The loud boos from the Ipswich fans as the 5th went in were sweet music. Insult us all they want after that.

If you pop onto the forums, it's mainly about the state of the club, nothing to do with us. They've got enough problems to sort out rather than just one match.

For me this 'rivalry' ended when we went up and stayed there for years with European trips, top half finishes etc whilst they had a shit time.

They 'won' the battle, we certainly won the war. 

I've never had a problem with Ipswich. It's B.K I can't stand. The man is a blatant cheat

Morning all.

They seem to like starting a new thread at every opportunity over on Tractor Boys ways so this may end up being a little bit disjointed but I'll try my best. I've had to go through 7(!) pages worth of threads from the past 24 hours

PRE-MATCH (some posts about THAT game too)

 

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(talking about last time we played them)

Oh christ, I'd forgotten that.

That was the game where I realised Hurst was miles out of his depth. We barely got a shot off against an already terrible Bolton team, down to 10 men from early on.

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Today will either be feast or famine - that is what it feels like.

Given the situation Bolton were in, they have come back with a pretty admirable team and manager in a short time.

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always makes me laugh when you hear them / Fat Sam bleating about that night.

You love to see it.

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I genuinely believe that Sam lost them that match. He sent them out ridiculously fired up. My view is that they were at least our equals but lost because of this.

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made mates with a Bolton fan on holiday last week, aged 41.... when we got talking, ITFC came up, he put face in hands "fcking jim magilton, barry knight!".... telling me how he was in his prime at that time and was a home/away weekly....

few days later I saw him sat in the shade watching his phone, waved me over..... he was watching the highlights of the PO semi. he said "actually, whatever way you look at them, they are penalties, and sendings off"

think it was that they all came in one game that they found/find it so hard to accept.

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It was definitely a game where you felt the ref was on our side. I don't think a lot of the decisions he made were all that wrong, but back then - no ref would have seen/given all that they did that night - he was either a ref with superpowers, or a closet Ipswich fan.

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Bolton lost their heads, and it wasnt that ref was favouring Town at all, Bolton were giving him very easy decisions to make, you had Whitlow kicking anyone who came near him, he even kicked out at Magilton to put him off for the 2nd penalty, which we missed btw so it worked, and why Clapham took that 3rd one, but Id argue it was favouring Bolton that he and some of their players even stayed on the pitch for 90mins at all.

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In the theatre for a 2:30 showing so will miss today. You can guarantee a 3-0 win, let's hope it is the start of something incredible. 

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What you seeing? I love the theatre, truly do, but 2-30 on a Saturday when we're due to give somebody a stomping?

 

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I think Bolton are a step up from what we’ve played so far. And will have a lot of possession. Tough to get the much needed win.

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They were in League 2 last season one year removed from being a full blown basket case. Let's not talk this fixture up as being tough.

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Oh herbz. You keep forgetting these clubs are league 1 clubs the same as us. What league they were in is irrelevant to what and who they are now

We dont even know yet what level our squad as a squad even is let alone feel the right to find all opponents as little due to where they once were.

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They're in League 1, ergo they aren't that good at football or they'd be higher than League 1. Stop viewing being a League 1 side as being some sort of badge of honour ffs, it's pathetic.

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We are league 1 because we havent been good at it
They got back to league 1 due to a promotion so showed they were good at winning games of football more than others.

I still believe we will win tomorrow. And I hope our run begins with it. However the OP is within their rights to say this is probably our toughest task this season so far.

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Watched bits from the Burton game on Monday night and he did look a very decent defender - imposing, strong and decent with the ball. If Bolton don’t go up, I’m sure there will be clubs from the Championship looking to take Santos off their hands.

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Santos was absolutely rubbish on Monday against Burton (as were Bolton despite having a bit of possession). He looked a bomb scare and nearly gifted them two goals clumsily trying to play out from the back. If he presents the same chances to our array of talent they won’t get away with it.

He’s rights about the attack though. It was toothless, they won’t lay a glove on us. We’re going to smash them. 4-0 I think.

They lost to Cambridge Utd and drew at home to 10 man Burton in their last two games, failing to score in both. Fancy trying to talk them up as some sort of challenge.

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They may be a step up, but we hav3 a team and squad that should be a cut above them.

In all honesty, is there a club in Lg 1 with a better squad than ours this year?

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Absolutely not. There’s barely another first eleven that is as good on paper as our second eleven.

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Was sharing someone else’s view on Santos. Every report about him I’ve read has been positive, great stats, he was up for League Two player of the season. Let’s see how he fairs today, hope he does gift us a goal.

Bolton have won 2 games, and drawn 3. We have drawn 3 games. We have no divine right to win. Bolton in my view are better than Morecombe and Cheltenham as the table states.

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You win games by having the better team, having more desire to win and having the better system of play.

No one can argue we don’t have the best squad by some way, and far superior to Bolton.

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With the squad we've assembled and the resource we've expended on doing so we absolutely should be bullish and should be swatting the likes of Bolton aside with ease.

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Got a bad feeling about this one. Bolton sound like they've found a good rhythm to their play, put a good run of results in going back a fair old way and generally are pretty upbeat about life.

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We're going to pump them you bunch of wet wipes.

 

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Yeah Bolton are shit... they have several good players but critically they have found a way to easily break through our system… it’s technical, it’s clever… we had adjusted to it…. As in close the space between our midfield and our defence … but they sprung it again

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7 goals. Football is an entertainment business. What more do you want?

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Looking forward to a season in League Two so we can reset…

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We look like a relegated side.

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Left after the 5th yes I repeat 5th Bolton goal. We now have so many players that he doesn’t know what to do with them .fair play to Bolton they totally outplayed us , look fitter , more organised and harder working

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The idiots on this board stating Bolton would be easy?! And we should swipe them away. They had a great shape, movement and good players in their centre backs, deep playmaker, and wingers

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We've got what is allegedly a championship standard squad. At very least, we shouldn't be abjectly losing to these teams. This division is utter toss.

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Even the most optimistic of Town fan should be very very concerned by that.

It was so so easy for Bolton today, didn’t have to get out of 1st gear.

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It's not particularly clear what we're trying to do off the ball and it doesn't look like the players really know either. Bolton had Isgrove and Afolayan pushed right to the edge of the pitch and our full backs had no idea whether they should be going out to them or staying narrow, and whichever one they chose it was mis-timed and there was rarely a midfielder covering the empty space.

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Atmosphere was decent, but concede a third at home to Bolton is going to test any fan. Then, we managed to concede another two.

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Yet again today you have to ask what on earth they’ve been doing on the training ground this last few weeks. Shape at the back was terrible and Bolton worked out immediately how to exploit us. Really poor managerial performance again.

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Tactically and technically Bolton were better than us today without a doubt

Agree Dart some of the space between deep midefield and defence was completely unacceptable

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The defence seem so open and every Bolton attack looked like a goal. The goalie looked very nervous and didn't have a great game.

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Trouble is with playing your full backs as wingers is the gaps you leave, Bolton ruthlessly exploited this today. Evatt knew the game plan

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As for the match, that was the worst defensive display I’ve seen from any team ever. Including Germany’s against Brazil (7-1) and Southampton’s against Leicester (9-0). Far too much space. Far too much time. Bolton walked rings around us and I honestly don’t know if our lads even cared that it was happening. No urgency, no desire, no heart. And then to sum it all up, Cook brings on Jackson - a player he forced to train in the under 23s for the last year.

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That’s not a defence at all, as I’m still fuming today, but Bolton are the first team to come and do a complete number on us rather than simply taking advantage of mistakes or a lack of organisation.

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For what its worth, I thought Bolton looked good yesterday, or did we make them look good...

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And how are we going to beat the better teams when we can't beat the sh1t ones? Only MK Dons have looked decent, though Bolton at times looked okay largely because of the dreadful way we were set up and Cook's inability to tactically change things

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It was so bad. We’ve got enough quality in attacking areas that we’ll score goals and create problems for teams, but defensively, organisationally and tactically we look dire. Not just yesterday either, it’s been evident all season yet seemingly not addressed at all and pulled apart with ease by a decent Bolton side.

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Today was out thought by Evatt .

Evatt picked out where our weakness was and also had inside knowledge of how Cook likes his teams to play through his time playing and captaining for Cook at Chesterfield.

He knew where the weakness in the system was and exploited it , while Cook did nothing to counteract it .

 

Brilliant Agent Matty

One or two credit Bolton for being streets ahead as individuals and a team. The rest are deluded fuckers.

Edited September 12, 20214 yr by MickyD
Premature send

The pre-match quote eighth from the bottom is outstanding. Simply as wrong as it's possible to be.

Fine work matty