Not in Crawley Posted June 15, 2022 Posted June 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Zico said: What does it matter if download is an older audience? Well they just had KISS and Iron Maiden headlining so not sure their steps have been that huge Just to edit, they have - the three outlining stages have had some amazingly interestingly and diverse music on. Quote
Offshore Posted June 15, 2022 Posted June 15, 2022 (edited) IoW Festival tomorrow. Not too far to travel😎 Bastards won't even allow people to take water into the site despite forecasts of 27/28c. You are allowed an empty bottle to refill 'for free at many of our on-site water outlets'. Well festival nation, or whatever you call yourselves, after almost twenty years of attendance, next year you can fuck right off. I can hear most of it from my garden anyway. And stop scaring my horses. ....I will attempt to piss on anything that looks electrical Also I've seen more of Serge Pizzorno than his wife has in the last ten years, given Kasabian are a 'headliner' every other year. Edited June 15, 2022 by Offshore grammar Quote
frank_spencer Posted June 15, 2022 Posted June 15, 2022 19 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said: Just to edit, they have - the three outlining stages have had some amazingly interestingly and diverse music on. The 2nd and 3rd stage headliners included Megadeth and The Decendents hardly young up and coming acts. Quote
Not in Crawley Posted June 15, 2022 Posted June 15, 2022 3 minutes ago, frank_spencer said: The 2nd and 3rd stage headliners included Megadeth and The Decendents hardly young up and coming acts. Very true but some of the mid afternoon acts are certainly headliners. It's a massive issue for download and they are very aware of it. Although it still.is the most rebooked festival, and has the most loyalist audience. Quote
Moderators Zico Posted June 15, 2022 Moderators Posted June 15, 2022 34 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said: Very true but some of the mid afternoon acts are certainly headliners. It's a massive issue for download and they are very aware of it. Although it still.is the most rebooked festival, and has the most loyalist audience. Aye, which is why i don't think they have a problem as such Neither do Glastonbury There's festivals for every demographic Older people don't go to events like park life, lovebox or wireless Neither do the Glastonbury lot Leeds Reading have Dave headlining Something for everyone Quote
Not in Crawley Posted June 16, 2022 Posted June 16, 2022 8 hours ago, Zico said: Aye, which is why i don't think they have a problem as such Neither do Glastonbury There's festivals for every demographic Older people don't go to events like park life, lovebox or wireless Neither do the Glastonbury lot Leeds Reading have Dave headlining Something for everyone True, but when you have headliners playing 7 times and they are in their late 60s, early 70s then there is a longer term problem for Download. Those headliners do make up for those ticket sales, despite the loyalty - headline release day still makes up for 70 odd percent of the tickets. Yes there is something for everyone, Glastonbury though is in a unique position and that's why they look at the differences in their audience make up. And for some markets and segments the music is totally secondary to the experience. When that is the case, it's not about who you put on. I'd also say Dave has now crossed over and I'd be interesting to see the make up.of Leeds and Reading - I doubt it's shifted that much to be honest from having the Foo Fighters headline. Why do you think we love to harvest all that juicy data...from Peppa Pig to Prog Rock helps with all Programatic planning. Quote
Moderators Zico Posted June 16, 2022 Moderators Posted June 16, 2022 1 hour ago, Not in Crawley said: True, but when you have headliners playing 7 times and they are in their late 60s, early 70s then there is a longer term problem for Download. Those headliners do make up for those ticket sales, despite the loyalty - headline release day still makes up for 70 odd percent of the tickets. Yes there is something for everyone, Glastonbury though is in a unique position and that's why they look at the differences in their audience make up. And for some markets and segments the music is totally secondary to the experience. When that is the case, it's not about who you put on. I'd also say Dave has now crossed over and I'd be interesting to see the make up.of Leeds and Reading - I doubt it's shifted that much to be honest from having the Foo Fighters headline. Why do you think we love to harvest all that juicy data...from Peppa Pig to Prog Rock helps with all Programatic planning. Download still have plenty 80s 90s and 00s bands to go at yet, though it doesn't feel like there's been too many, if any, big rock acts in the last ten years Having read Henry's comments it sounds more like an observation than a criticism or demand for change I don't think any festival needs to change what it does, Glastonbury did stormzy and I'm sure they'll do others But like you say, the whole experience is probably not what appeals to young urban audiences And that's something that's certainly not going to change, or shouldn't have to Am of the opinion here that if folk want to go they will and no amount of marketing will really charge it Quote
green genie Posted June 16, 2022 Posted June 16, 2022 3 hours ago, Not in Crawley said: I'd also say Dave has now crossed over and I'd be interesting to see the make up.of Leeds and Reading - I doubt it's shifted that much to be honest from having the Foo Fighters headline. Why do you think we love to harvest all that juicy data...from Peppa Pig to Prog Rock helps with all Programatic planning. Eldest on his third year of Reading. The campsite clientele hasn’t changed much but get loads of urban ethics and wigga day trippers Quote
Not in Crawley Posted June 16, 2022 Posted June 16, 2022 2 hours ago, Zico said: Download still have plenty 80s 90s and 00s bands to go at yet, though it doesn't feel like there's been too many, if any, big rock acts in the last ten years Having read Henry's comments it sounds more like an observation than a criticism or demand for change I don't think any festival needs to change what it does, Glastonbury did stormzy and I'm sure they'll do others But like you say, the whole experience is probably not what appeals to young urban audiences And that's something that's certainly not going to change, or shouldn't have to Am of the opinion here that if folk want to go they will and no amount of marketing will really charge it I have to say, seeing bad campaigns vs decent ones the difference is huge in terms of sales and money earnt. There will be a core that go, in my go, I'm not bothered about then - thats the easy picking, low hanging fruit that cost nothing to get in. Our job is to improve that to reach a set target where you are making money. Its also why we can charge decent money as a company, if we get it right we pay for ourselves and more for the client. If we don't, well then we lose the account and it goes to someone else. We've just won a folk festival down south for the media. We know a hard core folk audience will attend, its the 30-40% extra who are inclined to go but need convincing or being made aware of what the offer is, and understanding what is their motivation. Is it either the exprience, a certain band, the price points, the location - and each of these has to be served up to each audience in the right way. Thankfully this is now possible because everyone has spunked their data away for free without any thought - and we don't even have to actually target, we just get the seperate key messages and pump them out using programatic to serve the right one to the right people. Everyone is a customer, and everyone has a motivation point in which they will part with their cash. Its our job to find that and the platforms to serve it on - that's why we get paid silly amounts for a utterly despicable job. I mean, what sort of society puts more monetary value on what I do than a teacher or a nurse. That's capitalism for you, we are worth it because we generate money for someone else. Anyway, back to selling a CBBC pig for the afternoon.... Quote
Moderators Zico Posted June 16, 2022 Moderators Posted June 16, 2022 9 hours ago, Not in Crawley said: Anyway, back to selling a CBBC pig for the afternoon.... I'll take 3 tickets Quote
Not in Crawley Posted June 16, 2022 Posted June 16, 2022 2 hours ago, Zico said: I'll take 3 tickets OK, pm me not a problem x Quote
Breightmet Boy Posted June 16, 2022 Posted June 16, 2022 I’ve just got a Squeeze gig booked for early Nov at the Apollo up to now, but will be watching 4 other concerts later in the month, not a clue who they are yet though. Quote
tshape Posted June 17, 2022 Posted June 17, 2022 Saw a band called Lumer in Atherton last night. Really good. Quote
ErnestTurnip Posted June 17, 2022 Posted June 17, 2022 Had tickets for Warmduscher tonight but have had to give them away, was looking forward to it as well so not best start to the day. Quote
Moderators Zico Posted June 17, 2022 Moderators Posted June 17, 2022 1 hour ago, Not in Crawley said: Nine Inch Nails on Tuesday... Monday for me On my todd Sat down A first for me Quote
Not in Crawley Posted June 17, 2022 Posted June 17, 2022 1 hour ago, Zico said: Monday for me On my todd Sat down A first for me Bloody trains means I have to get a bus to Brixton. Not happy. Got half a day off and have cancelled wednesday's meetings.... Quote
Moderators Zico Posted June 17, 2022 Moderators Posted June 17, 2022 15 hours ago, Not in Crawley said: OK, pm me not a problem x Just to be clear, which pig and where? Quote
Not in Crawley Posted June 17, 2022 Posted June 17, 2022 13 minutes ago, Zico said: Just to be clear, which pig and where? My first concert, bridgewater Quote
green genie Posted June 17, 2022 Posted June 17, 2022 Take it the Stranglers' fans have seen their on in Blackpool first weekend in August? https://rfest.keekmerch.com/ Quote
Moderators Zico Posted June 17, 2022 Moderators Posted June 17, 2022 1 hour ago, Not in Crawley said: My first concert, bridgewater 30th July first day of the season let me see what the fixture list comes up with next week to decide if I go, but if not, I may use it to appease the mrs if I'm off on an all dayer Quote
stevieb Posted June 18, 2022 Posted June 18, 2022 Booked Bestival last night. Camping with the family. £784 for the 4 of us... Fat boy slim headlining with support from Mr tumble. I imagine it's going to be wholesome parents who used to be wreck heads having a crafternoon with the kids then scrabbling about trying to find class As at about 9pm. Quote
Leyther_Matt Posted June 18, 2022 Posted June 18, 2022 Noel Gallagher at Colwyn Bay Lifetime ambition fulfilled seeing Feeder. Unfortunately they were ridiculously prompt so only got to hear Just the Way I’m Feeling and High while queuing to get in and then Buck Rogers and Just a Day. Vaccines better than expected considering they’ve had a busy two years (🥁) and of course nobody paid attention to Noel until he started banging out the Oasis tunes which of course were superb. Originally in the seats but had a row of council types behind us who wouldn’t shut up wittering so had a dance on the pitch instead. Quote
frank_spencer Posted June 19, 2022 Posted June 19, 2022 12 hours ago, Leyther_Matt said: Noel Gallagher at Colwyn Bay Lifetime ambition fulfilled seeing Feeder. Unfortunately they were ridiculously prompt so only got to hear Just the Way I’m Feeling and High while queuing to get in and then Buck Rogers and Just a Day. Vaccines better than expected considering they’ve had a busy two years (🥁) and of course nobody paid attention to Noel until he started banging out the Oasis tunes which of course were superb. Originally in the seats but had a row of council types behind us who wouldn’t shut up wittering so had a dance on the pitch instead. Been big into Grant and the boys for years, got pretty much every album, single and promo CD they released from Polythene to Comfort in Sound. Just the albums since then Quote
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