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Posted
4 minutes ago, Cheese said:

You literally just described yourself as "anti Evatt". I'm not staring at you, and there's no need to call me a shit.

Leave off the drink and drugs mate, bless you, hope you get home ok

Posted
1 hour ago, Casino said:

I think thats what i was saying

All i know is oxford took the wind out of my sails and im 'just' a fan

Fuck knows what it does if its your life

I suspect that maybe covers some of your points

that's why I think a change in manager is required when it looks like you've not recovered from it

same happened to Todd in 99

Alladyce came in and got things moving again

I don't think Evatt has got over it or knows how to move on from it

Posted
4 minutes ago, burnden said:

 

I get this, the big difference is, the budget compared to Evatt. Phil Neal had no money to spend whatsoever, and the football was more entertaining, win or lose. He was Good for Bolton, as Evatt as been. Unfortunately  he as spunked millions on nobodies, which could have long standing implications when we dont get promoted.

Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, woolli said:

First of all im not Sharon, only one answer, sack Evatt. Ive been anti Evatt for over 18 months, and have had alot of shit off fellow posters, which, is part and parcel of being on a forum from the Evatt inners. I was in the minority, now a majority. Unfortunately a few still believe in him, they have taken to much deludemol. Budget wise, we should be top three. We shouldnt be in this position. Recruitment is piss poor, any manager letting footballers on a football pitch with socks rolled down, no shin pads, is weak as piss. We get enough injuries, lets not invite any more!

Fair enough. 

For the record I also think it’s time for a change. The reason I gave the hypothetical Sharon scenario is that I don’t think it’s quite as easy as ‘just sack him and all will be ok’.

Recruitment in football is tough. Even city have signed some duffers. 

I’m not sure we have a top 6 budget. Huddersfield, Brum and Wrexham will all have higher combined transfer and wage bills I expect. We’re probably 4th! We’re underperforming for sure, and I expected us to go up this season. 
 

Im intrigued why you’ve been Evatt out for 18 months. This time 12 months ago we were on course for promotion. What made you change your mind after the first Barnsley play off games? 

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Posted
3 minutes ago, Dr. Feelgood said:

Phil Neal's lasting legacy was to stop tje rot and start getting dome output from the youth squad. McAteer & Stubbs especially.

But ther was no love for him. Not sure why.

We might look back at Evatt in a similar way in years to come. 

No love for him in general but helped to stabilise the club from where it was  

Where’s our Bruce? 

Posted
15 minutes ago, Dr. Feelgood said:

Phil Neal's lasting legacy was to stop tje rot and start getting dome output from the youth squad. McAteer & Stubbs especially.

But ther was no love for him. Not sure why.

I am sure McAteer and Stubbs came from non League McAteer from Marine and Stubbs from Ellesmere port 

Posted
7 minutes ago, thebells said:

Fair enough. 

For the record I also think it’s time for a change. The reason I gave the hypothetical Sharon scenario is that I don’t think it’s quite as easy as ‘just sack him and all will be ok’.

Recruitment in football is tough. Even city have signed some duffers. 

I’m not sure we have a top 6 budget. Huddersfield, Brum and Wrexham will all have higher combined transfer and wage bills I expect. We’re probably 4th! We’re underperforming for sure, and I expected us to go up this season. 
 

Im intrigued why you’ve been Evatt out for 18 months. This time 12 months ago we were on course for promotion. What made you change your mind after the first Barnsley play off games? 

I agree, we was on for promotion, it didnt happen. When we lost at Pompey, and from then, it was all downhill. We was so inconsistent it was unreal. We had chance after chance, but it didnt happen. We was dropping points against really poor teams. Evatt couldnt change anything then, we had a bad last three months, fortunately we had accumulated enough points to be near the top. We bottled it, not sure who was culpable for that? The maestro blamed injuries, got away with it, not this season!

Posted
50 minutes ago, Zico said:

 

I don't think Evatt has got over it or knows how to move on from it

You might be right

Iin fact, id say its more probable than possible

Posted
5 minutes ago, Hoppy said:

I am sure McAteer and Stubbs came from non League McAteer from Marine and Stubbs from Ellesmere port 

There is no "Ellesmere Port FC". Stubbs joined into the Youth squad. McAteer came from Marine, but as a junior.

The point though is moot. He got the youth delivering.

Posted
1 hour ago, Zico said:

that's why I think a change in manager is required when it looks like you've not recovered from it

same happened to Todd in 99

Alladyce came in and got things moving again

I don't think Evatt has got over it or knows how to move on from it

 

Was hoping that Charles being sold would be Evatt’s Frandsen moment, but no dice.

Tony Mowbray back to West Brom so that’s another potential replacement gone. Hope it goes well for him tbh  

 

Posted
1 hour ago, Dr. Feelgood said:

There is no "Ellesmere Port FC". Stubbs joined into the Youth squad. McAteer came from Marine, but as a junior.

The point though is moot. He got the youth delivering.

I thought McAteer was about 20 when we signed him from Marine?

Posted
5 minutes ago, DaveTheRave said:

I thought McAteer was about 20 when we signed him from Marine?

One of the best pound for pound signings in my lifetime.

Debut v Rochdale in FA Cup, I remember thinking who's this scrawny kid, why is he playing.  First time he got possession, a class above, skill, composure, vision, swagger without being cocky.

First impressions of new signings are very rarely far wrong, I had a similar feel when Mark Davies came on for his debut at Blackburn.  Instant quality on the ball, without the injuries he would have been another of the best bargains in my time.

Posted
1 hour ago, Dr. Feelgood said:

Phil Neal's lasting legacy was to stop tje rot and start getting dome output from the youth squad. McAteer & Stubbs especially.

But ther was no love for him. Not sure why.

McGovern was like Keith Hill, managing with zilch funds after almost going bust.

Neal knew how to put a team together (and signed Andy Walker) but stayed too long in the end, leading to him falling out with us supporters.

Rioch inherited some good players and added a few of his own and the rest was history.

We just need that blue touch paper lighting again

Posted
2 hours ago, Dr. Feelgood said:

Phil Neal's lasting legacy was to stop tje rot and start getting dome output from the youth squad. McAteer & Stubbs especially.

But ther was no love for him. Not sure why.

I was proper annoyed when they sacked , but as soon as as they appointed Rioch I was like, now we’re talking

Posted
8 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

I was proper annoyed when they sacked , but as soon as as they appointed Rioch I was like, now we’re talking

My first comment when I read about it in the BEN was "what has that Derby County Jock doing at Bolton?"

Shows how much I knew...

Posted
24 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

I was proper annoyed when they sacked , but as soon as as they appointed Rioch I was like, now we’re talking

To be fair they didn't sack him. His contract ran down & wasn't renewed.

Posted
2 hours ago, Dr. Feelgood said:

There is no "Ellesmere Port FC". Stubbs joined into the Youth squad. McAteer came from Marine, but as a junior.

The point though is moot. He got the youth delivering.

One of the best was Paul Fletcher I went to school with him played for smithills signed for Bolton 1967 his dad was a bus driver went to Burnley for a record fee Bill Ridding was manager then

Posted
17 minutes ago, Alf Hartigan said:

Didn’t Ricoh get the players to spruce up the stadium?

Very different times, 

Recall hearing McAteers story about buying a Lotus and Rioch making him take it back!

 

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