Seems to have taken a turn for the worse.

She is 96.

12 minutes ago, L/H White said:

one thing I dont get is queuing all night to look at the coffin. that's just weird

Wonder how many joined the queue thinking it was a new trainer release

2 minutes ago, Leyther_Matt said:

Wonder how many joined the queue thinking it was a new trainer release

Adidas Elizabeths in Union Jack colours

26 minutes ago, L/H White said:

one thing I dont get is queuing all night to look at the coffin. that's just weird

It is a bit.

I wouldn't do it, but each to their own.

Closed coffin with a flag draped over it?

I'd not be surprised if she wasn't in it for security reasons.

56 minutes ago, L/H White said:

one thing I dont get is queuing all night to look at the coffin. that's just weird

Is that our Sharon in the Edinburgh Queue last night ?

1 minute ago, Benny The Ball said:

Is that our Sharon in the Edinburgh Queue last night ?

Can see Klopp also in the red cap

20 minutes ago, L/H White said:

Can see Klopp also in the red cap

Obsessed

9 minutes ago, Traf said:

Obsessed

I am.

14 hours ago, Casino said:

Hes a cunt

Just show respect or stay away

I hope he has no need for a knife and fork for months

Might be, I personally don't care.

He has the right to say what he wants for me though, if I disagree or not.

29 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

Might be, I personally don't care.

He has the right to say what he wants for me though, if I disagree or not.

Nobody is arguing against him having the right to say what he wants it's the "where he wants" at issue here.

It's OK disrespecting Andrew but not OK when doing so also disrespects the King, the rest of the royal family and those within earshot wishing to pay their own respects.

4 minutes ago, MickyD said:

Nobody is arguing against him having the right to say what he wants it's the "where he wants" at issue here.

It's OK disrespecting Andrew but not OK when doing so also disrespects the King, the rest of the royal family and those within earshot wishing to pay their own respects.

Which is why Andrew shouldn't have been anywhere near it.

8 minutes ago, MickyD said:

Nobody is arguing against him having the right to say what he wants it's the "where he wants" at issue here.

It's OK disrespecting Andrew but not OK when doing so also disrespects the King, the rest of the royal family and those within earshot wishing to pay their own respects.

Again, i've no dog in this fight but I'd say why not?

There are very few places to publically demonstrate as it is against people being in positions of power, least of all those that are hereditary. 

It's also ok to disrepect the King if anyone so chooses. That's one of the joys of living in this country.

I personally wouldn't do it out of respect, but I've no issue with anyone else voicing their opinion on the matter.

17 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

Again, i've no dog in this fight but I'd say why not?

There are very few places to publically demonstrate as it is against people being in positions of power, least of all those that are hereditary. 

It's also ok to disrepect the King if anyone so chooses. That's one of the joys of living in this country.

I personally wouldn't do it out of respect, but I've no issue with anyone else voicing their opinion on the matter.

But by him doing so where and when he did it ruined the opportunity for all those around him to pay their respects.

Would it be okay for someone to start shouting during a 2 minute silence for example?  No, is the simple answer.

12 minutes ago, DazBob said:

But by him doing so where and when he did it ruined the opportunity for all those around him to pay their respects.

Would it be okay for someone to start shouting during a 2 minute silence for example?  No, is the simple answer.

So do you need silence from everyone else to pay your personal respects?

I'm not defending the fella  - I'm just pointing out there are some obvious level of hypocrisy here.

If you are talking about basic manners, fine. But that's different in the context of having heritry heads of states, which some people, don't feel is correct and the position it allows them in society. That's a perfectly reasonable position and vocalising that when there is a public display of pagentary (which is what this is) seems perfectly fine to me and an example of a healthy country.

11 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

So do you need silence from everyone else to pay your personal respects?

I'm not defending the fella  - I'm just pointing out there are some obvious level of hypocrisy here.

If you are talking about basic manners, fine. But that's different in the context of having heritry heads of states, which some people, don't feel is correct and the position it allows them in society. That's a perfectly reasonable position and vocalising that when there is a public display of pagentary (which is what this is) seems perfectly fine to me and an example of a healthy country.

Do you need silence from everyone?  Probably not, but some oik shouting ruins it for everyone.

Ultimately, for me, it boils down to respect for others, or as you put it, basic manners. He is in the same camp as the retards who boo players taking the knee.

 

55 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Which is why Andrew shouldn't have been anywhere near it.

It's his mother's funeral and the decision on who attends is the family's. 

His disgrace is there in plain sight- no uniform. Some self centred gobshite actually diminishes the spectacle and achieves nothing.

 

Just now, DazBob said:

Do you need silence from everyone?  Probably not, but some oik shouting ruins it for everyone.

Ultimately, for me, it boils down to respect for others, or as you put it, basic manners. He is in the same camp as the retards who boo players taking the knee.

 

Yes, as I say I wouldn't do it, but then I'm not a fervent republican. 

Just now, Tonge moor green jacket said:

It's his mother's funeral and the decision on who attends is the family's. 

His disgrace is there in plain sight- no uniform. Some self centred gobshite actually diminishes the spectacle and achieves nothing.

 

Dunno - I think its good to have discussion on the subject rather than everyone towing the line - as with everything.

11 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

It's his mother's funeral and the decision on who attends is the family's. 

His disgrace is there in plain sight- no uniform. Some self centred gobshite actually diminishes the spectacle and achieves nothing.

All sex abusers should be made to walk around in a tailored suit. What a fitting punishment. Such humiliation!

Edited September 13, 20223 yr by Cheese

Andrew broke the Queen's heart

don't ever forget that

there's never a good time or place to remind nonces of what they've done

which is why such behaviour is allowed to thrive in all communities

he'll go back and hide in his castle now and not come out till the next wedding or funeral, which wouldn't be the time or the place either

just hope it wasn't public money his mum used to pay off his settlement for him

if the royals choose to let him walk round in public, he's fair game, regardless of the circumstances

Tell you what the King's Bodyguard 

the Tall guy 

Has put some Hours in this week 

1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

It's his mother's funeral and the decision on who attends is the family's. 

His disgrace is there in plain sight- no uniform. Some self centred gobshite actually diminishes the spectacle and achieves nothing.

 

Weird thing is he’s allowed to wear his uniform on the day of the funeral yet Harry isn’t. 
 

Anyway I find it strange that those who are saying this fella should be allowed his freedom of speech said they would report fans who booed the knee 🤷🏻‍♂️
 

Let’s all be honest, freedom of speech all comes down to who said it and if you support it or not. 

3 minutes ago, royal white said:

Anyway I find it strange that those who are saying this fella should be allowed his freedom of speech said they would report fans who booed the knee 🤷🏻‍♂️

Who here said they'd "report fans who boo the knee"?

1 minute ago, Cheese said:

Who here said they'd "report fans who boo the knee"?

Scroll through the numerous pages cheese. It’s there.

2 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Who here said they'd "report fans who boo the knee"?

crawley

1 minute ago, Cheese said:

Who here said they'd "report fans who boo the knee"?

That was me a think, gross hypocrisy! 

That's the issue with silencing thing its a hugly difficult area when it crosses over with personal beliefs.

Personally boo-ing anti racists statements seems a bit off to me in a way that shouting at royal pagentary isn't.

Which is why there are always debates around freedom of speech.