Meanwhile In England

[Wanderlust]

Where's Nigel? He's gone from calling for the troops to be on the streets in 2011 to quiet as a mouse.

Maybe somebody asked him who he thought was responsible for the Farage Riots?

Or maybe he's realised that the gangs of kids stoving in Phones R US windows and making off with a new iPhone 15 are not really helping his argument.

[Ani]

40 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

The link is for the general election in 2024

Which goes back to saying it was not the biggest factor in the election. Not sure which other recent election you thought I meant ?  

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

1 minute ago, Ani said:

Which goes back to saying it was not the biggest factor in the election. Not sure which other recent election you thought I meant ?  

You referred to the link you posted in a reply to @gonzo claiming we left the EU because of dissatisfaction with immigration

[Ani]

Just now, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

You referred to the link you posted in a reply to @gonzo claiming we left the EU because of dissatisfaction with immigration

Which he posted in reply to me saying it was not the major factor in the election 

[royal white]

3 minutes ago, Wanderlust said:

Where's Nigel? He's gone from calling for the troops to be on the streets in 2011 to quiet as a mouse.

Maybe somebody asked him who he thought was responsible for the Farage Riots?

Or maybe he's realised that the gangs of kids stoving in Phones R US windows and making off with a new iPhone 15 are not really helping his argument.

If he’s watched the clips from Bolton, Stoke and Sheffield he will have something to say 

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

Just now, Ani said:

Which he posted in reply to me saying it was not the major factor in the election 

Yes, I know

But it seemed clear he was making a separate point about the EU referendum

[royal white]

Liverpool and Everton  fans saying any people caught protesting that support their clubs should be banned. 

 

Scousers are proper shit people aren’t they. 

[Guest]

1 minute ago, royal white said:

Liverpool and Everton  fans saying any people caught protesting that support their clubs should be banned. 

 

Scousers are proper shit people aren’t they. 

Wouldn’t surprise me if Sharon did that. 

[Ani]

Just now, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

Yes, I know

But it seemed clear he was making a separate point about the EU referendum

He was saying that it was a big factor in the Brexit vote, we can debate that for ever.

i was asked what my statement was based on so i added a link. 

[Guest]

Immigration wise we’d be far better off in the EU now. 

[royal white]

4 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said:

Wouldn’t surprise me if Sharon did that. 

Think the majority of those rioting in town today will be cricket fans 

[TM Trotter]

50 minutes ago, paulhanley said:

Shocking scenes. Undoubtedly the far-right are involved. They want locking up.

Many, many people in this country have very legitimate and deeply held concerns about immigration. The vast majority are not out on the streets indulging in mindless violence and do not have "far-right" or racist views. These rioters are doing their cause no favours. Nor have the equivalent social disorder problems in other countries in recent times, notably the Republic of Ireland.

I hope the Government recognises that people who have views on immigration are entitled to do so and do not use this reprehensible behaviour to brush those views aide as somehow minority/fringe/extremist. 

 

I do appreciate your sentiment on the whole, and I'm not having a go at you specifically.

But, perhaps if the 'vast majority' of people who are peacefully protesting their concerns about immigration are, in turn, concerned about reputational damage to their cause - they should be calling out/self-policing the extremist members of their community who are choosing to riot. 

After all, that argument is usually thrown at the entire Muslim community when one of their own does something vile. 

[Guest]

5 minutes ago, TM Trotter said:

I do appreciate your sentiment on the whole, and I'm not having a go at you specifically.

But, perhaps if the 'vast majority' of people who are peacefully protesting their concerns about immigration are, in turn, concerned about reputational damage to their cause - they should be calling out/self-policing the extremist members of their community who are choosing to riot. 

After all, that argument is usually thrown at the entire Muslim community when one of their own does something vile. 

Let’s just be honest, the people going to these events aren’t going to peacefully protest.  

[royal white]

Another 30 million for mosque security, have I heard that right? 

[only1swanny]

7 minutes ago, royal white said:

Think the majority of those rioting in town today will be cricket fans 

to be fair there was a chant of "White army" go up.. 

[Winchester White]

7 minutes ago, royal white said:

Think the majority of those rioting in town today will be cricket fans 

Why do you say that?

[mickbrown]

52 minutes ago, captainmed said:

Media & Starmer are to blame. 

They kept using the words “Far right” earlier in the week, when it was just simply pure anger. 

The public have since thought - if you think we’re “far right” then we’ll act like that.

They fuelled the fire. 

Erm, what’s the word I’m looking for??

Bollocks

[royal white]

4 minutes ago, Winchester White said:

Why do you say that?

You're not that simple 

[Winchester White]

Just now, royal white said:

You're not that simple 

Nope but we can all read you.

[paulhanley]

7 minutes ago, TM Trotter said:

I do appreciate your sentiment on the whole, and I'm not having a go at you specifically.

But, perhaps if the 'vast majority' of people who are peacefully protesting their concerns about immigration are, in turn, concerned about reputational damage to their cause - they should be calling out/self-policing the extremist members of their community who are choosing to riot. 

After all, that argument is usually thrown at the entire Muslim community when one of their own does something vile. 

People who have views to express on immigration are not a "community". They are everyday folk who have views on everything from tax levels to potholes to social care. The "vast majority" are not protesting their concerns, they are expressing them whether in their own front room, on social media or over a pint at the boozer. The point is it is legitimate to have a view on immigration and in a healthy democratic society folk are entitled to articulate it. The act of doing so does not make them "extreme". 

[Jol_BWFC]

BBC reporting highlights the Bolton trouble is on both sides, which will disappoint a few off here.

[Sweep]

35 minutes ago, Wanderlust said:

Where's Nigel? He's gone from calling for the troops to be on the streets in 2011 to quiet as a mouse

He'll be keeping quiet, this is exactly what he wanted to happen, so he can now just watch it all unfold. 

[RoadRunnerFan]

3 minutes ago, Sweep said:

He'll be keeping quiet, this is exactly what he wanted to happen, so he can now just watch it all unfold. 

Wonder if he's triggered a bonus from Vlad? 

[only1swanny]

1 minute ago, Jol_BWFC said:

BBC reporting highlights the Bolton trouble is on both sides, which will disappoint a few off here.

Watched the thing from start to finish and unfortunately it's accurate. 

I'd love to say it's a group of radicalised Far right thugs, but it wasn't, there wasn't any kicking off until the large group of Muslims arrived. The chants of Allahu Akbar were sickening tbh. 

Knew of 3 arrests before that point, all had been peaceful but had bags checked etc and were rightly arrested. 

Two Asian lads arrested clearly for carrying weapons, one on a bike where the weapon wasnt clear, another rushed around to the Protest with a cricket bat. 

When the large masked group could not get to the protesters (about 50-75) they went around the town centre and tried to get the the group via Bradshawgate (near Nelsons column), hence the scenes there with the police horses bottling them up,at this point a few fireworks were thrown into the group of Protesters. 

I know it's hard for some to swallow, but it would have been peaceful and was with both groups, until a heard of counter protesters arrived in the way they did.. It was clearly organised and they did it to incite violence, When it didn't kick off as they wanted it to, they tried another way..

The protesters by their nature are atagonistic, and shouldn't be there in the first place, 

[paulhanley]

14 minutes ago, Jol_BWFC said:

BBC reporting highlights the Bolton trouble is on both sides, which will disappoint a few off here.

Second bullet point about Bolton is a bit superfluous. Sack the proof-reader.