Ani Posted August 4, 2024 Posted August 4, 2024 6 minutes ago, only1swanny said: Watched the thing from start to finish and unfortunately it's accurate. I'd love to say it's a group of radicalised Far right thugs, but it wasn't, there wasn't any kicking off until the large group of Muslims arrived. The chants of Allahu Akbar were sickening tbh. Knew of 3 arrests before that point, all had been peaceful but had bags checked etc and were rightly arrested. Two Asian lads arrested clearly for carrying weapons, one on a bike where the weapon wasnt clear, another rushed around to the Protest with a cricket bat. When the large masked group could not get to the protesters (about 50-75) they went around the town centre and tried to get the the group via Bradshawgate (near Nelsons column), hence the scenes there with the police horses bottling them up,at this point a few fireworks were thrown into the group of Protesters. I know it's hard for some to swallow, but it would have been peaceful and was with both groups, until a heard of counter protesters arrived in the way they did.. It was clearly organised and they did it to incite violence, When it didn't kick off as they wanted it to, they tried another way.. The protesters by their nature are atagonistic, and shouldn't be there in the first place, Why would it be hard for some to swallow ? Quote
BobyBrno Posted August 4, 2024 Posted August 4, 2024 37 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said: Wouldn’t surprise me if Sharon did that. Really? You may not agree with why people protest but if it’s peaceful and no laws were broken you’d be happy for fans to be banned for protesting? Quote
Jol_BWFC Posted August 4, 2024 Posted August 4, 2024 6 minutes ago, only1swanny said: Watched the thing from start to finish and unfortunately it's accurate. I'd love to say it's a group of radicalised Far right thugs, but it wasn't, there wasn't any kicking off until the large group of Muslims arrived. The chants of Allahu Akbar were sickening tbh. Knew of 3 arrests before that point, all had been peaceful but had bags checked etc and were rightly arrested. Two Asian lads arrested clearly for carrying weapons, one on a bike where the weapon wasnt clear, another rushed around to the Protest with a cricket bat. When the large masked group could not get to the protesters (about 50-75) they went around the town centre and tried to get the the group via Bradshawgate (near Nelsons column), hence the scenes there with the police horses bottling them up,at this point a few fireworks were thrown into the group of Protesters. I know it's hard for some to swallow, but it would have been peaceful and was with both groups, until a heard of counter protesters arrived in the way they did.. It was clearly organised and they did it to incite violence, When it didn't kick off as they wanted it to, they tried another way.. The protesters by their nature are atagonistic, and shouldn't be there in the first place, Sad to read what’s been happening. Both sides at fault and all those arrested should all face what’s coming to them. At least we don’t have to face another “I bet we won’t see this reported on BBC” post… Quote
royal white Posted August 4, 2024 Author Posted August 4, 2024 5 minutes ago, paulhanley said: Second bullet point about Bolton is a bit superfluous. Sack the proof-reader. Did the 2 groups clash? No mention of the weapons either. Quote
Traf Posted August 4, 2024 Posted August 4, 2024 1 hour ago, only1swanny said: MEANWHILE on Derby street... Where are the police?? https://twitter.com/tony91701344/status/1820126854000566351/video/2 Possibly got their hands full elsewhere? We don't have enough police to deal with the current shit and that's because the fucking Tories have decimated public services during their 14yr shitshow. Quote
kent_white Posted August 4, 2024 Posted August 4, 2024 I predict that as soon as it starts pissing it down again - all these 'protests' will die down pretty sharpish. Quote
only1swanny Posted August 4, 2024 Posted August 4, 2024 Just now, kent_white said: I predict that as soon as it starts pissing it down again - all these 'protests' will die down pretty sharpish. Seems to have gone quiet with a bit of drizzle, unless they all have gone home to get brollies and wellies.. Quote
Traf Posted August 4, 2024 Posted August 4, 2024 1 minute ago, kent_white said: I predict that as soon as it starts pissing it down again - all these 'protests' will die down pretty sharpish. School holidays, warm weather, bored kids are ding a lot of the damage. Quote
Guest Posted August 4, 2024 Posted August 4, 2024 (edited) 10 minutes ago, BobyBrno said: Really? You may not agree with why people protest but if it’s peaceful and no laws were broken you’d be happy for fans to be banned for protesting? Not for ‘protesting’ but I wouldn’t be surprised if she was up for banning any involved in rioting, violence and racism. Edited August 4, 2024 by bwfcfan5 Quote
kent_white Posted August 4, 2024 Posted August 4, 2024 1 minute ago, Traf said: School holidays, warm weather, bored kids are ding a lot of the damage. I know. It's almost like tribalistic groups of young men enjoy kicking off with each other. Perish the thought! 😁 Quote
BobyBrno Posted August 4, 2024 Posted August 4, 2024 2 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said: Not for ‘protesting’ but I wouldn’t be surprised if she was up for banning any involved in rioting, violence and racism. Well yes but the point was about ‘protesting’ Quote
BobyBrno Posted August 4, 2024 Posted August 4, 2024 2 minutes ago, kent_white said: I know. It's almost like tribalistic groups of young men enjoy kicking off with each other. Perish the thought! 😁 If you look at the content online, young men on one side, mixed gender on the other. You can decide which is which. Quote
burnden Posted August 4, 2024 Posted August 4, 2024 (edited) 23 minutes ago, only1swanny said: Watched the thing from start to finish and unfortunately it's accurate. I'd love to say it's a group of radicalised Far right thugs, but it wasn't, there wasn't any kicking off until the large group of Muslims arrived. The chants of Allahu Akbar were sickening tbh. Knew of 3 arrests before that point, all had been peaceful but had bags checked etc and were rightly arrested. Two Asian lads arrested clearly for carrying weapons, one on a bike where the weapon wasnt clear, another rushed around to the Protest with a cricket bat. When the large masked group could not get to the protesters (about 50-75) they went around the town centre and tried to get the the group via Bradshawgate (near Nelsons column), hence the scenes there with the police horses bottling them up,at this point a few fireworks were thrown into the group of Protesters. I know it's hard for some to swallow, but it would have been peaceful and was with both groups, until a heard of counter protesters arrived in the way they did.. It was clearly organised and they did it to incite violence, When it didn't kick off as they wanted it to, they tried another way.. The protesters by their nature are atagonistic, and shouldn't be there in the first place, This BBC reporter saying pretty much that . Edited August 4, 2024 by burnden Quote
Guest Posted August 4, 2024 Posted August 4, 2024 2 minutes ago, BobyBrno said: Well yes but the point was about ‘protesting’ I thought he statement this morning was absolutely spot on. Quote
kent_white Posted August 4, 2024 Posted August 4, 2024 4 minutes ago, BobyBrno said: If you look at the content online, young men on one side, mixed gender on the other. You can decide which is which. There were woman kicking off? I haven't seen any of those videos. I've seen some with women ballooning but not kicking off. The fighting videos (abe to be fair I'm not sure I'd call them that) seem to either be gangs of white lads or gangs or Asian lads running around unopposed and occasionally fighting with the police. But not with each other. I'm sure there must be some out there though eh? Quote
Ani Posted August 4, 2024 Posted August 4, 2024 13 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said: I thought he statement this morning was absolutely spot on. People getting upset by Sharon's statement are real snowflakes. She makes no comment on the issues or take sides She says violence is never the solution and as a Community we should stand together. As a Community club there is nothing but good sense in there. Quote
BobyBrno Posted August 4, 2024 Posted August 4, 2024 1 minute ago, kent_white said: There were woman kicking off? I haven't seen any of those videos. I've seen some with women ballooning but not kicking off. The fighting videos (abe to be fair I'm not sure I'd call them that) seem to either be gangs of white lads or gangs or Asian lads running around unopposed and occasionally fighting with the police. But not with each other. I'm sure there must be some out there though eh? I never said women were ‘kicking off’ 🤷♂️ I said women were protesting. On one side. The original protest was a mixed gender, peaceful protest. It was then confronted by mainly masked men from who have been widely described as Muslim. These are facts. Quote
BobyBrno Posted August 4, 2024 Posted August 4, 2024 17 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said: I thought he statement this morning was absolutely spot on. Yes, I agree. She never mentioned anything about banning people for protesting though. Quote
kent_white Posted August 4, 2024 Posted August 4, 2024 5 minutes ago, BobyBrno said: I never said women were ‘kicking off’ 🤷♂️ I said women were protesting. On one side. The original protest was a mixed gender, peaceful protest. It was then confronted by mainly masked men from who have been widely described as Muslim. These are facts. Oh right. Fair enough then. I just think there are dickheads on all sides and they're all as bad as each other. Fuck them all off as far as I'm concerned. Quote
royal white Posted August 4, 2024 Author Posted August 4, 2024 2 minutes ago, Ani said: Leanne got involved , then got removed Fkinell, that copper is lucky he didn’t lose his leg the daft bugger. Quote
BobyBrno Posted August 4, 2024 Posted August 4, 2024 From a foreign source. How would you describe these people? Far….. Quote
Lt. Aldo Raine Posted August 4, 2024 Posted August 4, 2024 A good article on the state of play in modern Britain Quote
Leyther_Matt Posted August 4, 2024 Posted August 4, 2024 1 hour ago, royal white said: Liverpool and Everton fans saying any people caught protesting that support their clubs should be banned. Scousers are proper shit people aren’t they. 1 hour ago, BobyBrno said: Really? You may not agree with why people protest but if it’s peaceful and no laws were broken you’d be happy for fans to be banned for protesting? It isn’t for “protesting”, it’s for anyone identified to be “engaging in social disorder”, which I would suggest is an entirely different thing. As ever, though, I’d be careful of the sources of such things given it has only been posted by a ‘New York-based’ unverified journalist. You’d have fancied the Liverpool Echo would have jumped on it fairly sharpish if there was a grain of truth. Quote
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