July 10, 20251 yr 3 minutes ago, gonzo said: Tbf the lunatic has spent two days screaming about the source of the news rather than the actual news itself. He's downplayed the fact that the leader of a grooming gang is working in the same town he committed his atrocities and he's also downplayed the grooming gang scandal by the usual whataboutery of 'white/home-grown' sex offenders. Basically saying the problem isn't as bad as is being made out by certain sections of the press despite a massive government inquiry about the issue. The story of the Rochdale has become relevant because of the said inquiry. There's reports about pedophiles across every single news outlet in the county on a daily basis btw. But you're only bothered about this one for some reason, because you saw a GBNews presenter talking about it on youtube. Dance monkey, dance.
July 10, 20251 yr 11 minutes ago, gonzo said: Tbf the lunatic has spent two days screaming about the source of the news rather than the actual news itself. He's downplayed the fact that the leader of a grooming gang is working in the same town he committed his atrocities and he's also downplayed the grooming gang scandal by the usual whataboutery of 'white/home-grown' sex offenders. Basically saying the problem isn't as bad as is being made out by certain sections of the press despite a massive government inquiry about the issue. The story of the Rochdale has become relevant because of the said inquiry. There's reports about pedophiles across every single news outlet in the county on a daily basis btw. We already knew he was in Rochdale. Its been in the news for 9 years. The update is that high level negotiations are taking place between the governments to get him deported. The daily mail ran with "look at paedo pizza delivery man's house" GB news picked this up. Christys went on a podcast and parroted it. And you posted it on here like a good boy. Edited July 10, 20251 yr by peelyfeet
July 10, 20251 yr 6 minutes ago, Cheese said: But you're only bothered about this one for some reason, because you saw a GBNews presenter talking about it on youtube. Dance monkey, dance. Am I? It's just a news story that popped up that's available for discussion. Are we not allowed to discuss things on here any more? Has the situation not happened just because a GB news reporter spoke about it on a triggernomics podcast? Has the situation not happened because there are other crimes in the world? Shall we just shut down any discussions on here just because you don't like the topic or questions it raises? That's the trouble with you. You can't actually handle a discussion. You always, always revert to the same old bullshit, "what are you going to do about it" etc etc So predictable. Can you recommend any news outlets we are allowed to include in here or subjects folk can talk about rather than just be shut down with your usual dribble?
July 10, 20251 yr 17 minutes ago, gonzo said: Tbf the lunatic has spent two days screaming about the source of the news rather than the actual news itself. He's downplayed the fact that the leader of a grooming gang is working in the same town he committed his atrocities and he's also downplayed the grooming gang scandal by the usual whataboutery of 'white/home-grown' sex offenders. Basically saying the problem isn't as bad as is being made out by certain sections of the press despite a massive government inquiry about the issue. The story of the Rochdale has become relevant because of the said inquiry. There's reports about pedophiles across every single news outlet in the county on a daily basis btw. Anyway. I've had enough of this shite. I've not been on here for a few years and on return, parts of it are very similar to twitter. The influence of shitty media outlets pumping out crap for morons to digest because theyre losing ad revenue to social media is evident. You won't see me here any more. Cya
July 10, 20251 yr 14 minutes ago, gonzo said: Am I? It's just a news story that popped up that's available for discussion. Are we not allowed to discuss things on here any more? Has the situation not happened just because a GB news reporter spoke about it on a triggernomics podcast? Has the situation not happened because there are other crimes in the world? Shall we just shut down any discussions on here just because you don't like the topic or questions it raises? That's the trouble with you. You can't actually handle a discussion. You always, always revert to the same old bullshit, "what are you going to do about it" etc etc So predictable. Can you recommend any news outlets we are allowed to include in here or subjects folk can talk about rather than just be shut down with your usual dribble? You can bring up and discuss whatever you like mate. I have never and never would try to "shut down" any discussion. How could I even go about that? I can't ban you from wanderersways. You just don't like someone disagreeing with you. But don't pretend you're bothered about nonces and you care about the children they abuse. You're only bothered about Muslims and foreigners, because you've been told to be. Just be honest about it. Edited July 10, 20251 yr by Cheese
July 10, 20251 yr 12 minutes ago, peelyfeet said: Anyway. I've had enough of this shite. I've not been on here for a few years and on return, parts of it are very similar to twitter. The influence of shitty media outlets pumping out crap for morons to digest because theyre losing ad revenue to social media is evident. You won't see me here any more. Cya Before you go. This is the third paragraph of Baroness Casey’s report recommending a national inquiry. It’s on the government web site. ‘They were convicted of treating teenage girls as sex slaves – repeatedly raping them in filthy flats, alleyways and warehouses. The perpetrators included taxi drivers and market traders of Pakistani heritage, and it has taken 20 years to bring them to justice.’
July 10, 20251 yr Author 33 minutes ago, peelyfeet said: Anyway. I've had enough of this shite. I've not been on here for a few years and on return, parts of it are very similar to twitter. The influence of shitty media outlets pumping out crap for morons to digest because theyre losing ad revenue to social media is evident. You won't see me here any more. Cya It’s not an airport you soft cunt. You don’t have to announce your departure
July 10, 20251 yr 40 minutes ago, peelyfeet said: Anyway. I've had enough of this shite. I've not been on here for a few years and on return, parts of it are very similar to twitter. The influence of shitty media outlets pumping out crap for morons to digest because theyre losing ad revenue to social media is evident. You won't see me here any more. Cya Haha fuck off then ya soft arse.
July 10, 20251 yr 34 minutes ago, Cheese said: You can bring up and discuss whatever you like mate. I have never and never would try to "shut down" any discussion. How could I even go about that? I can't ban you from wanderersways. You just don't like someone disagreeing with you. But don't pretend you're bothered about nonces and you care about the children they abuse. You're only bothered about Muslims and foreigners, because you've been told to be. Just be honest about it. You don't care about young girls being abused and raped by Muslim grooming gangs. Don't pretend you do.
July 10, 20251 yr 37 minutes ago, peelyfeet said: Anyway. I've had enough of this shite. I've not been on here for a few years and on return, parts of it are very similar to twitter. The influence of shitty media outlets pumping out crap for morons to digest because theyre losing ad revenue to social media is evident. You won't see me here any more. Cya Sounds like you've been reading extreme left wing social media crap like so many other morons. To use your own words. Infected by the same ignorance, aloofness and dangerous ideology to condemn all those who may dare to disagree as "...ist" My missus was the victim of a low level sexual assault by a young man visiting from Pakistan. Thankfully he was quickly arrested and deported. If you, or anyone else had suggested it wasn't his fault, you'd have received a somewhat stern "fuck off". Go and play with Corbyn and his extreme acolytes, they will sooth your ire.
July 10, 20251 yr 55 minutes ago, peelyfeet said: Anyway. I've had enough of this shite. I've not been on here for a few years and on return, parts of it are very similar to twitter. The influence of shitty media outlets pumping out crap for morons to digest because theyre losing ad revenue to social media is evident. You won't see me here any more. Cya just stick to the footie side. slightly less mental.
July 10, 20251 yr surely the biggest problem is none of these fuckers get long enough sentences, then they're back in - and potentially a risk to - the community. cost effective measure would be to lop their tackle off before they're released. all in favour? good, sorted.
July 10, 20251 yr 34 minutes ago, gonzo said: You don't care about young girls being abused and raped by Muslim grooming gangs. Don't pretend you do. Not doing yourself any favours by saying stuff like this mate. Just stopping to his level. But maybe that’s the only way with Cheese 😄 Folk can have an opinion without them condoning the issue or being part of the problem. And I’m more on your side with this one, it was a huge national scandal & was clearly made worse because people were scared to offend & speak honestly. I also worry that the problem hasn’t gone away. Folk should be able to speak honestly, especially if it helps bring about justice & addresses the issue. We should be able to talk about the racism involved in how the groomers chose their victims. And criticise aspects of other cultures (& our own) without scapegoating. If it’s specific & relevant. I don’t think anyone in this discussion is denying the scandal & the cultural issues involved. Don’t think Peely is screeching either, unless we accept that anyone with an opinion on here is a screecher. Think he’s more been making the point that some morons use stories like this to scapegoat whole cultures, or an entire religion. Which just doesn’t happen when a white British person commits a similar offence. Ultimately what we need are proper deterrents though. We are just far too soft on rapists & groomers in this country.
July 10, 20251 yr 1 hour ago, gonzo said: You don't care about young girls being abused and raped by Muslim grooming gangs. Don't pretend you do. I care about all victims of grooming and paedophilia, regardless of the perpetrators race. You only care about the ones that don't look like you.
July 10, 20251 yr 1 minute ago, Cheese said: I care about all victims of grooming and paedophilia, regardless of the perpetrators race. You only care about the ones that don't look like you. 8 minutes ago, London Wanderer said: Not doing yourself any favours by saying stuff like this mate. Just stopping to his level. But maybe that’s the only way with Cheese 😄 Folk can have an opinion without them condoning the issue or being part of the problem. And I’m more on your side with this one, it was a huge national scandal & was clearly made worse because people were scared to offend & speak honestly. I also worry that the problem hasn’t gone away. Folk should be able to speak honestly, especially if it helps bring about justice & addresses the issue. We should be able to talk about the racism involved in how the groomers chose their victims. And criticise aspects of other cultures (& our own) without scapegoating. If it’s specific & relevant. I don’t think anyone in this discussion is denying the scandal & the cultural issues involved. Don’t think Peely is screeching either, unless we accept that anyone with an opinion on here is a screecher. Think he’s more been making the point that some morons use stories like this to scapegoat whole cultures, or an entire religion. Which just doesn’t happen when a white British person commits a similar offence. Ultimately what we need are proper deterrents though. We are just far too soft on rapists & groomers in this country. He started it The lads a waste of space. Anyway, a good and well balanced post. The discussion is there to be had. Shame others spoil it.
July 10, 20251 yr 1 minute ago, gonzo said: He started it The lads a waste of space. Anyway, a good and well balanced post. The discussion is there to be had. Shame others spoil it. Sorry for spoiling the discussion. I forgot we must all agree, all the time, about everything.
July 10, 20251 yr Popular Post 32 minutes ago, Cheese said: Sorry for spoiling the discussion. I forgot we must all agree, all the time, about everything. You have just said I don't care about the victims of child sex abuse and only about the colour of their skin. That isn't debate or discussion. That's closing down the discussion and making wild unfounded and unanswerable accusations. Asking "what are you doing about the problem" isn't debate or discussion. That's closing down the debate with an absolutely absurd and ridiculous question. Do we have to take action on things we find disconcerting in the press? When you don't have a reasonable debate this is always your course of action. Thickos, Brown People, Foreigners, yadda yadda yadda. Edited July 10, 20251 yr by gonzo
July 10, 20251 yr 4 minutes ago, gonzo said: You have just said I don't care about the victims of child sex abuse and only about the colour of their skin. That isn't debate or discussion. That's closing down the discussion and making wild unfounded and unanswerable accusations. Asking "what are you doing about the problem" isn't debate or discussion. That's closing down the debate with an absolutely absurd and ridiculous question. Do we have to take action on things we find disconcerting in the press? When you don't have a reasonable debate this is always your course of action. Thickos, Brown People, Foreigners, yadda yadda yadda. I agree and there is a discussion to be had absolutely. I think the police especially had an unacceptable level of distain for poor girls being groomed by Pakistani gangs. I also thought peely had a very good point on the ridiculous nature of reporting these days just to whip up clicks by mainly right wing media. Both things can be right at the same time imo.
July 10, 20251 yr 9 minutes ago, gonzo said: You have just said I don't care about the victims of child sex abuse and only about the colour of their skin. That isn't debate or discussion. That's closing down the discussion and making wild unfounded and unanswerable accusations. Asking "what are you doing about the problem" isn't debate or discussion. That's closing down the debate with an absolutely absurd and ridiculous question. Do we have to take action on things we find disconcerting in the press? When you don't have a reasonable debate this is always your course of action. Thickos, Brown People, Foreigners, yadda yadda yadda. aye, over and over
July 10, 20251 yr 1 hour ago, gonzo said: You have just said I don't care about the victims of child sex abuse and only about the colour of their skin. That isn't debate or discussion. That's closing down the discussion and making wild unfounded and unanswerable accusations. Asking "what are you doing about the problem" isn't debate or discussion. That's closing down the debate with an absolutely absurd and ridiculous question. Do we have to take action on things we find disconcerting in the press? When you don't have a reasonable debate this is always your course of action. Thickos, Brown People, Foreigners, yadda yadda yadda. Bit like accusing people of "playing it down" and "making excuses", when nobody has done anything of the sort....
July 10, 20251 yr 22 minutes ago, Cheese said: Bit like accusing people of "playing it down" and "making excuses", when nobody has done anything of the sort.... I'd say the only reason you'd bring in facts and figures about other paedophile cases, especially in this discussion, is it suggest the Muslim grooming scandal isn't as big as made out. You hear it time and time again during these discussions. It's like talking about Barry Bennal and what a disgrace it was that people knew and it was allowed to manifest but then someone says yeah but it's just one bloke in a vast network of coaches. Who gives a fuck. We are talking this particular regardless of how many other cases involving certain demographics. The only reason people say yeah but what about and bring up the Catholic Church or any other problem areas is try and take the spotlight away from this particular issue. That's downplaying it. Yon lad yesterday played down the fact the bloke was working in Rochdale and could come in to contact with victims. It's quite feasible and even if the chance was minute, shouldn't be allowed to happen. His comments 100% were trying to downplay that situation. In a range of posts he made some serious whataboutery by bringing up the wider world of child abuse and also downplayed the fact that this guy was allowed to live and work in an area where he'd abused and lead the abuse of countless young girls. Go back and read his posts.
July 10, 20251 yr 3 hours ago, gonzo said: You have just said I don't care about the victims of child sex abuse and only about the colour of their skin. I think youve said some similarly unpleasant things to @peelyfeet which surprised me
July 10, 20251 yr I think one of the most underappreciated and important things to remember about the grooming gang scandal is that the victims weren't just sexually assaulted, they were quite literally brutalised and tortured by large groups of men They were beaten with baseball bats, cut with knives, set on fire, kidnapped, held captive - in one case the judge's sentencing remarks noted the the rapist used a pump to inflate his teenage victim's back passage The public generally still has no concept of just how extreme the violence they were subjected to was (and no doubt still is) It's why posting about the statistics for sexual offending as a whole, which encompasses a whole array of offences of differing severity (for example, the data includes convictions for posessing indecent images), and posting about incomplete data on the ethnicity of the offenders misses the point
July 10, 20251 yr 4 hours ago, gonzo said: You have just said I don't care about the victims of child sex abuse and only about the colour of their skin. That isn't debate or discussion. That's closing down the discussion and making wild unfounded and unanswerable accusations. Asking "what are you doing about the problem" isn't debate or discussion. That's closing down the debate with an absolutely absurd and ridiculous question. Do we have to take action on things we find disconcerting in the press? When you don't have a reasonable debate this is always your course of action. Thickos, Brown People, Foreigners, yadda yadda yadda. Spot on Just like when people protest about the climate & folk feel the need to comment on daft things like if they drove to the protest or do they have plastic in their coats. I think Anewman’s Glastonbury post did a similar thing as well
July 10, 20251 yr 24 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said: I think one of the most underappreciated and important things to remember about the grooming gang scandal is that the victims weren't just sexually assaulted, they were quite literally brutalised and tortured by large groups of men They were beaten with baseball bats, cut with knives, set on fire, kidnapped, held captive - in one case the judge's sentencing remarks noted the the rapist used a pump to inflate his teenage victim's back passage The public generally still has no concept of just how extreme the violence they were subjected to was (and no doubt still is) It's why posting about the statistics for sexual offending as a whole, which encompasses a whole array of offences of differing severity (for example, the data includes convictions for posessing indecent images), and posting about incomplete data on the ethnicity of the offenders misses the point A really good post. I’d give it a like but it feels too grim to do so. Spot on anyway
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