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A good account on why the NHS is fucked.

 

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    How many 'layers of utterly pointless management running it into the ground' has it got? Did you 'do your own research' to reach that conclusion or just parrot it? 

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    Yeah - personally I think we need lots of community hospitals. To deal with the people that aren't sick enough to warrant emergency admission but need in patient care, and for people to be discharged

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12 minutes ago, Winchester White said:

A good account on why the NHS is fucked.

 

They want it to fail. That is the plan.

18 hours ago, little whitt said:

only way we will sort the NHS out 

is to get HAROLD SHIPMAN back 

the place is full of them 

soon as you hit 80

Raikes Lane  in the big fire 

Rights to a dignified death would help.

My dad at 74 was glad that his cancer diagnosis was soon changed to terminal against offer of being battered by chemo to gain a couple years rooted to the house or care home.

The resources being put into step FiL at Christie’s at 78 yr old with no hope he’ll have a decent quality of life again is phenomenal 

3 hours ago, Winchester White said:

A good account on why the NHS is fucked.

 

That's pretty much it in a nutshell! 👍

Another strike looks like it's on its way. Junior Doctors this time, probably in March. 

"Below inflation pay rises add up to a 26.1% real-terms cut for junior doctors in England since 2008-09, the BMA says"

 

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BBC news about to cover Bolton Hospital 

Just come back from Ireland 

the health service there is experiencing 

excess waiting times 

staff shortages 

people on trolleys in corridors 

lack of available beds 

it’s funded differently there, They’re still in the EU , they can’t recruit qualified staff 

the population is only around 5 million 

the consensus is the cause is the perfect storm of

lack of adequate funding 

3 respiratory diseases ( flu corona and some other chest infection doing the rounds at the same time increasing intake 

lack of staff 

I’m firmly in the Brexit is shit camp, but, Ireland is experiencing the same as here while in the eu , so it’s not a Brexit issue , it’s probably the same as above 

13 minutes ago, fatolive said:

Just come back from Ireland 

the health service there is experiencing 

excess waiting times 

staff shortages 

people on trolleys in corridors 

lack of available beds 

it’s funded differently there, They’re still in the EU , they can’t recruit qualified staff 

the population is only around 5 million 

the consensus is the cause is the perfect storm of

lack of adequate funding 

3 respiratory diseases ( flu corona and some other chest infection doing the rounds at the same time increasing intake 

lack of staff 

I’m firmly in the Brexit is shit camp, but, Ireland is experiencing the same as here while in the eu , so it’s not a Brexit issue , it’s probably the same as above 

Correct! You also failed to mention the ageing population. 

European immigrants generally arent old

They are also willing to do low paid work

Brexit is definitely a contributory factor to our labour shortages

7 hours ago, fatolive said:

Just come back from Ireland 

the health service there is experiencing 

excess waiting times 

staff shortages 

people on trolleys in corridors 

lack of available beds 

it’s funded differently there, They’re still in the EU , they can’t recruit qualified staff 

the population is only around 5 million 

the consensus is the cause is the perfect storm of

lack of adequate funding 

3 respiratory diseases ( flu corona and some other chest infection doing the rounds at the same time increasing intake 

lack of staff 

I’m firmly in the Brexit is shit camp, but, Ireland is experiencing the same as here while in the eu , so it’s not a Brexit issue , it’s probably the same as above 

Correct.

https://amp.theguardian.com/society/2022/dec/14/a-ticking-time-bomb-healthcare-under-threat-across-western-europe

Just now, Casino said:

Race to the bottom

Are we winning?
It feels like we are.

1 minute ago, BobyBrno said:

https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2023/jan/11/canada-healthcare-crisis-emergency-room-death
 

Maybe other factors are to blame. COVID seems to crop up in all these reports.

No doubt, but things weren't perfect before covid.

Quite simply an ageing, less healthy population wanting increasing medical intervention. 

Now statins are going to be given out like sweets. Preventative- certainly but with its own costs and issues.

Despite massive funding things aren't improving, though they will a little once the covid backlog is cleared.

We must get back to a place where exercise and basic cooking skills are provided at school, and folk take more responsibility for their own wellbeing where they can. That will also include more money being invested into pensions/care services by individuals as well as the state.

Just now, Tonge moor green jacket said:

No doubt, but things weren't perfect before covid.

Quite simply an ageing, less healthy population wanting increasing medical intervention. 

Now statins are going to be given out like sweets. Preventative- certainly but with its own costs and issues.

Despite massive funding things aren't improving, though they will a little once the covid backlog is cleared.

We must get back to a place where exercise and basic cooking skills are provided at school, and folk take more responsibility for their own wellbeing where they can. That will also include more money being invested into pensions/care services by individuals as well as the state.

This 👏🏻

7 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

No doubt, but things weren't perfect before covid.

Quite simply an ageing, less healthy population wanting increasing medical intervention. 

Now statins are going to be given out like sweets. Preventative- certainly but with its own costs and issues.

Despite massive funding things aren't improving, though they will a little once the covid backlog is cleared.

We must get back to a place where exercise and basic cooking skills are provided at school, and folk take more responsibility for their own wellbeing where they can. That will also include more money being invested into pensions/care services by individuals as well as the state.

Goodness me, it's only January but I'm putting this up for the 'Old Man Shouting At The Clouds' Award in the 'Things Were Reet Better In My Day' category.

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10 hours ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Correct! You also failed to mention the ageing population. 

Yes but this is clearly an issue of underfunding since 2010, the ageing population is a factor but we were managing it better before 2010. The Tories drastically reduced NHS spending and we are now paying the price.

11 minutes ago, Farrelli said:

Yes but this is clearly an issue of underfunding since 2010, the ageing population is a factor but we were managing it better before 2010. The Tories drastically reduced NHS spending and we are now paying the price.

How much was it reduced by? 

Brexit was supposed to ensure we didn’t suffer the same fate as the EU.

So we were told.

Never mind eh?

Just now, Spider said:

Brexit was supposed to ensure we didn’t suffer the same fate as the EU.

So we were told.

Never mind eh?

Was Brexit supposed to stop covid as well? 

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