Mounts Kipper Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 The full report digitalised in the Bolton news. https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/news/14342605.full-historic-document-reveals-full-tragedy-burnden-disaster/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members burnden Posted March 9, 2023 Members Share Posted March 9, 2023 3 hours ago, Mounts Kipper said: The full report digitalised in the Bolton news. https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/news/14342605.full-historic-document-reveals-full-tragedy-burnden-disaster/ https://edition.pagesuite-professional.co.uk/html5/reader/production/default.aspx?pubname=&pubid=3ce0eccb-0f2b-45c3-88b3-f13f861ebb1f Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underpants Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 (edited) I was down at the UniBol this afternoon. I was disappointed not to see the flags at half mast for the 33. Also we should, as a club and fans, mark the anniversary more. I feel it's been neglected. It's sometimes called the forgotten disaster, and it seems it is with the folk of Bolton and the club. The odd social media post is something but it's the bare minimum the club has done. I'm not asking for anything major but flags at half mast would be a start. I did notice the names of the dead were on a plaque near the Lofthouse statue. But maybe a separate memorial would be more fitting. Something fans could visit and lay flowers. I know, I'm sounding like a Liverpool fan. Edited March 9, 2023 by Underpants Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 5 minutes ago, Underpants said: I was down at the UniBol this afternoon. I was disappointed not to see the flags at half mast for the 33. Also we should, as a club and fans, mark the anniversary more. I feel it's been neglected. It's sometimes called the forgotten disaster, and it seems it is with the folk of Bolton and the club. The odd social media post is something but it's the bare minimum the club has done. I'm not asking for anything major but flags at half mast would be a start. I did notice the names of the dead were on a plaque neer the Lofthouse statue. But maybe a separate memorial would be more fitting. Something fans could visit and lay flowers. I know, I'm sounding like a Liverpool fan. Disappointed at the flag situation and yes, a separate memorial would be apt and fitting. Hopefully in situ by 2026. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted March 9, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted March 9, 2023 20 minutes ago, Underpants said: I was down at the UniBol this afternoon. I was disappointed not to see the flags at half mast for the 33. Also we should, as a club and fans, mark the anniversary more. I feel it's been neglected. It's sometimes called the forgotten disaster, and it seems it is with the folk of Bolton and the club. The odd social media post is something but it's the bare minimum the club has done. I'm not asking for anything major but flags at half mast would be a start. I did notice the names of the dead were on a plaque near the Lofthouse statue. But maybe a separate memorial would be more fitting. Something fans could visit and lay flowers. I know, I'm sounding like a Liverpool fan. Aye. Fine balance needed- respectful but not virtue signalling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyther_Matt Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 Tbf there’s the remembrance area in front of reception. I know it isn’t specifically for the disaster, but it’s a similar theme. Not having the flags at half mast is poor form, mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfc2003 Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 seen nothing about a minutes silence at saturdays match either I was moaning there was no mention yesterday on local news - but if the club cant be bothered ..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underpants Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 30 minutes ago, bwfc2003 said: seen nothing about a minutes silence at saturdays match either I was moaning there was no mention yesterday on local news - but if the club cant be bothered ..... Saturday the flags should be at half mast. A minutes silence and black arm bands worn. This should be traditional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benny The Ball Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 (edited) 14 hours ago, Underpants said: I was down at the UniBol this afternoon. I was disappointed not to see the flags at half mast for the 33. Also we should, as a club and fans, mark the anniversary more. I feel it's been neglected. It's sometimes called the forgotten disaster, and it seems it is with the folk of Bolton and the club. The odd social media post is something but it's the bare minimum the club has done. I'm not asking for anything major but flags at half mast would be a start. I did notice the names of the dead were on a plaque near the Lofthouse statue. But maybe a separate memorial would be more fitting. Something fans could visit and lay flowers. I know, I'm sounding like a Liverpool fan. For anyone interested here is how the Burnden disaster came to be "remembered" again It remained completely forgotten by the club until 1989 In quick succession we had experienced 3 major disasters affecting English Football in the 1980s - Bradford , Heysel and most recently Hillsborough. BWFC announced at the beginning of the 1989/90 season a series of testimonial events for Nat Lofthouse - there was a book published and a match played against Man City and various functions were organised. Shortly afterwards an article appeared in the BEN about a lady called Mrs Coward (i think that was her name - might have been Howard?) who had lost a close relative in the disaster and commenting that it was completely forgotten. ( Think the relative had been her husband or brother - again i cannot clearly remember ) Anyway a couple of us got talking and an emotive open letter was written and published in the BEN basically asking the club to justify remembering the career of a player who had devoted 50 years of his working life to the club, yet at the same time choosing to completely ignore the wishes of the likes of Mrs Coward and not in any way mark the site of the disaster at which 33 people had 40 odd years earlier lost their lives. The inference being there was money to be made out of remembering the one and nothing to be made out of the other. Things then when silent. Then I had a conversation with Gordon Sharrock , who in essence said they dont know how to reply to the letter and wont , but they admit they are embarrassed by the situation and want to do something about it - watch this space. Within a few months Mrs Coward had been contacted by the club, it was announced a plaque would be erected and she would be invited to the unveiling , which i guess was in 1990 ? From then on it was remembered more and more - with a very well attended service at Bolton Parish Church in 1996 marking the 50th anniversary. Edited March 10, 2023 by Benny The Ball Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_white Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 12 hours ago, Leyther_Matt said: Tbf there’s the remembrance area in front of reception. I know it isn’t specifically for the disaster, but it’s a similar theme. Not having the flags at half mast is poor form, mind. Isn't there a book behind a window with everyone's name in it who died as a permanent reminder? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyther_Matt Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 Just now, kent_white said: Isn't there a book behind a window with everyone's name in it who died as a permanent reminder? Yes there is. I was going to mention that but as weird as it sounds I’ve got no idea how anyone turns the pages! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underpants Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 1 minute ago, kent_white said: Isn't there a book behind a window with everyone's name in it who died as a permanent reminder? 3 minutes ago, Leyther_Matt said: Yes there is. I was going to mention that but as weird as it sounds I’ve got no idea how anyone turns the pages! I'm sure I've seen all the names in that book before. But when I went down yesterday there was only one name for that date. Maybe because there's 33 names it's on another page 🤔 Yesterday.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyther_Matt Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 30 minutes ago, Underpants said: I'm sure I've seen all the names in that book before. But when I went down yesterday there was only one name for that date. Maybe because there's 33 names it's on another page 🤔 Yesterday.. I think there’s a dedicated page but I could be wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_white Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 35 minutes ago, Leyther_Matt said: I think there’s a dedicated page but I could be wrong It's annoying me that the book isn't slap bang in the middle of the window! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 2 hours ago, kent_white said: It's annoying me that the book isn't slap bang in the middle of the window! Very much so. I dislike football grounds where the tunnel isn't central to the main stand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyther_Matt Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 11 minutes ago, Traf said: Very much so. I dislike football grounds where the tunnel isn't central to the main stand. Or neither of them in our case Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 9 minutes ago, Leyther_Matt said: Or neither of them in our case I don't mind ours with one either side of halfway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazBob Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 There's nothing that looks as tinpot looking as when the managers have to walk across the pitch to get to the dugout. The tunnel being in the corner also looks shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jol_BWFC Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 2 hours ago, DazBob said: There's nothing that looks as tinpot looking as when the managers have to walk across the pitch to get to the dugout. The tunnel being in the corner also looks shit. Exhibit A: Fulham Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underpants Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Jol_BWFC said: Exhibit A: Fulham Burnley Stoke Man U Tinpot the lot of 'em Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter MickyD Posted March 11, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted March 11, 2023 There’s no point turning up on 10th March to see the Book of Remembrance for a death (or deaths in this case) which occurred on the 9th. The page is turned daily to reflect the current date. Also, I seem to recall the club takes part in an act of remembrance only when a home game falls on the 9th. (Although I could be mistaken here) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.