Wanderlust Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 As an aside, Will Aimson took his goal well as Exeter moved above us on GD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainmed Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 On reflection we’ve got what I thought after 5 games - 10 points. Its just the last 2 performances that have soured it a bit. Massive game next. Lets see if we deserve our tag of promotion favourites or just wilt again in a big home game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 11 minutes ago, captainmed said: On reflection we’ve got what I thought after 5 games - 10 points. Its just the last 2 performances that have soured it a bit. Massive game next. Lets see if we deserve our tag of promotion favourites or just wilt again in a big home game. Past experience against a Warne team points to a melt, let’s hope we can find our cahoonas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 It's a radical idea this, but if we insist on playing with three centre halves, can we have three centre halves on the pitch, instead of Santos and our second/third choice right/left backs? Jones & Iredale have been poor this last couple of games and I'd like to see a three of Santos, Forrester & Toal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rizlar Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 17 minutes ago, Traf said: It's a radical idea this, but if we insist on playing with three centre halves, can we have three centre halves on the pitch, instead of Santos and our second/third choice right/left backs? Jones & Iredale have been poor this last couple of games and I'd like to see a three of Santos, Forrester & Toal. Spot on Traf was thinking this myself this morning Iredale is not a CD and neither is GJ even though he’s had some good games. Weneed another CD as IE will not change from 3 at the back and if Santos as done is ankle then he could be out for several weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rizlar Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 54 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: Past experience against a Warne team points to a melt, let’s hope we can find our cahoonas. Guarenteed they will come straight at us as will all teams now IE needs to get this sorted we are too flakey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted August 27, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted August 27, 2023 33 minutes ago, Rizlar said: Guarenteed they will come straight at us as will all teams now IE needs to get this sorted we are too flakey. Wouldn't mind if we had a cogent plan B. If it means teams come at us, and we go over the top, so be it. Mix it up. Not sure we seem to have that option rehearsed though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Lt. Aldo Raine Posted August 27, 2023 Members Share Posted August 27, 2023 8 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Wouldn't mind if we had a cogent plan B. If it means teams come at us, and we go over the top, so be it. Mix it up. Not sure we seem to have that option rehearsed though. Given how Evatt wants his team to play and the squad we have currently, the only Plan B I think we can really go for is having a genuine No. 10 in behind the front two (as opposed to the 6 and two 8s we normally go with) to break through the middle rather than always going wide We tried it with Shoretire last season and it failed but I'm expecting it's the reason we signed CMG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 Regarding a Plan B I can see us switching occasionally to a 4-3-3/3-1-4-2/3-4-1-2 alongside the more favoured 3-5-2, we have the players to change systems for each of these. We have got a more flexible squad this season, still in my eyes a proper midfield general is the glaring omission from this squad and without one I see us a top 6 not top 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted August 27, 2023 Moderators Share Posted August 27, 2023 2 hours ago, Rizlar said: Guarenteed they will come straight at us as will all teams now IE needs to get this sorted we are too flakey. They've scored 3 and 4 already on the road this season, so they aren't shy going forward on the road Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nantwichwhite Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 2 hours ago, Traf said: It's a radical idea this, but if we insist on playing with three centre halves, can we have three centre halves on the pitch, instead of Santos and our second/third choice right/left backs? Jones & Iredale have been poor this last couple of games and I'd like to see a three of Santos, Forrester & Toal. He hasn’t been here long, but we have certainly missed Toal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianofcleveleys Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 If Santos is out for a few weeks and Toal only just easing back (don't blame Evatt for not rushing him after a couple of nasty injuries in quick succession), we could go into Derby (and beyond) with none of our recognised defence and two wide men who'd be better defined as 'wing forward' rather than 'wing back'. Add that to the absence of a genuine screening midfielder and it's a bit scary. Time between now and close of business on Friday could be as important a six days as Evatt's had in his time with us. A lot to sort, especially with the continued talk about Charles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulhanley Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 4 minutes ago, ianofcleveleys said: If Santos is out for a few weeks and Toal only just easing back (don't blame Evatt for not rushing him after a couple of nasty injuries in quick succession), we could go into Derby (and beyond) with none of our recognised defence and two wide men who'd be better defined as 'wing forward' rather than 'wing back'. Add that to the absence of a genuine screening midfielder and it's a bit scary. Time between now and close of business on Friday could be as important a six days as Evatt's had in his time with us. A lot to sort, especially with the continued talk about Charles. I'd agree with this. Santos out, Toal easing back, Johnston gone for the season. How many of the rest of the back three contenders are truly central defenders? Forrester - and he's not a big lad. This all plays in to the "lack of physique" debate around the whole squad. Ironically the "will we still be bullied?" question was second on most people's list of issues to resolve after "who will get our goals?" Charles is on 3 and Victor on 4, so we're actually doing OK on that front. We just lack physical strength in central defence and central midfield. A certain combination of injuries/circumstances exposes it. The sale of MJ Williams was the right thing but the lack of a direct replacement is a real problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marple whites Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 10 points from 5, replicate that throughout the season and we go up. let ourselves down last 2 games. Be tough to get 4 from derby and reading though. strange yesterday, great save from Baxter similar to their save from vic. they should have scored first half when they went round the goalie, but we should have scored again second half. so point gained or 2 lost ? didn’t really see the “reaction” first half that evatt said the players were hurting from the Wigan result and keen to bounce back - it was the same ineptness. better second half and really end to end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter desperado Posted August 27, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted August 27, 2023 All this talk of being physical against us and roughing us up - fucking hell if officials are going to let this nonsense go unpunished because it’s early in the game, then it’s madness. You can bet your bottom dollar the moment Evatt sends ours out with this attitude we’ll get a booking/sending off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted August 27, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted August 27, 2023 No attempt to play the ball, but because its a drag down, it's deemed OK. Should be a yellow, a soft one obviously, but if there is no attempt to play the ball then fuck him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 47 minutes ago, desperado said: All this talk of being physical against us and roughing us up - fucking hell if officials are going to let this nonsense go unpunished because it’s early in the game, then it’s madness. You can bet your bottom dollar the moment Evatt sends ours out with this attitude we’ll get a booking/sending off. Can not see on there but he went into Santoss ankle with his boot too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc505 Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 Just recalled that Joga Bonito music they played after they scored. Horrendous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomRepWanderer Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 Best thing about that shithole was the Beech...good ale, and able to have a fag at HT, other than that a day to forget. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted August 27, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted August 27, 2023 Having a fag at half time! Kinell, it must have been a bad game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc505 Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 16 minutes ago, DomRepWanderer said: Best thing about that shithole was the Beech...good ale, and able to have a fag at HT, other than that a day to forget. If the Beech is a positive you know its been bad. Rank gaff! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainmed Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 (edited) 31 minutes ago, DomRepWanderer said: Best thing about that shithole was the Beech...good ale, and able to have a fag at HT, other than that a day to forget. Forget the 90 mins of football, an away day is just as much about the craic, chat, atmosphere & beers pre-match. Hardly saw a Bolton (or Burton) fan in town, which was a run down shit-hole. It was absolutely deserted. Terrace was far too full and stewards were useless, even admitting the standing capacity should be lowered. I hate going to these absolute tin-pot football clubs/grounds/towns who don’t care a jot about football and can safely say I won’t ever be going to Burton again. You know it’s been a bad un when people are talking about what time they got home!!!! Rant over. Edited August 27, 2023 by captainmed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeep Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 11 minutes ago, Marc505 said: If the Beech is a positive you know its been bad. Rank gaff! Shittest pub for aways..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted August 27, 2023 Author Share Posted August 27, 2023 Burton centre is a dive worst spoons going if we have the pleasure of going back it will be uttoxeter beforehand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marple whites Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 2 pint of Stella like pond water. crap pub, crap place - hope they get relegated and we get promoted so 2 divisions apart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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