deeane Koontz Posted September 29, 2023 Share Posted September 29, 2023 On 26/09/2023 at 12:54, Winchester White said: Very true, it is mad that rail transport stops a little after 11pm. I had a look earlier for my lad who's going to Leeds soon, the leg from Manchester Victoria to Leeds was 55 minutes. Its less than 40 miles away and it takes nearly an hour! It's fucking crazy. 2023 and no 24h service in a major UK city. The fact it was easier to travel late on 20 years ago says it all really. No idea how the fuck they get away with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted September 29, 2023 Share Posted September 29, 2023 3 minutes ago, deeane Koontz said: It's fucking crazy. 2023 and no 24h service in a major UK city. The fact it was easier to travel late on 20 years ago says it all really. No idea how the fuck they get away with it. Was quicker to get into Manchester from where I live in 1890. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter MickyD Posted September 29, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted September 29, 2023 Where did you live in 1890, Mick? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little whitt Posted September 29, 2023 Share Posted September 29, 2023 8 minutes ago, MickyD said: Where did you live in 1890, Mick? LEIGH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted September 29, 2023 Share Posted September 29, 2023 47 minutes ago, MickyD said: Where did you live in 1890, Mick? Bdum tish😃 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little whitt Posted September 29, 2023 Share Posted September 29, 2023 Fucking New Bee Buss Network SHITE was going to go wigan have some Tea then watch a band 6.30 got Cancelled 6.57 never come Sullking now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmjhb Posted September 29, 2023 Share Posted September 29, 2023 That serves you right for wanting to go to Wigan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter MickyD Posted September 29, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted September 29, 2023 1 hour ago, little whitt said: Fucking New Bee Buss Network SHITE was going to go wigan have some Tea then watch a band 6.30 got Cancelled 6.57 never come Sullking now I’m not actually sure what the difference is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_spencer Posted September 29, 2023 Share Posted September 29, 2023 21 minutes ago, MickyD said: I’m not actually sure what the difference is. Just means buses run to provide a service rather than make a profit and all buses operate as one 'company' . Similar to TFL do with London buses. I imagine it'll take a while to get anywhere near close to the coverage London has but it's a worthy aim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted September 29, 2023 Author Site Supporter Share Posted September 29, 2023 9 minutes ago, frank_spencer said: Just means buses run to provide a service rather than make a profit and all buses operate as one 'company' . Similar to TFL do with London buses. I imagine it'll take a while to get anywhere near close to the coverage London has but it's a worthy aim The buses are still run by private companies, but managed publicly. Hopefully it will be better once teething troubles are sorted out. They will still need to make money though, unless they're being subsidised, presumably from council tax. Dunno if this is the case or not. Lots of shiny new leccy buses though, must be tons better than a smelly diesel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
globaldiver Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 https://amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013/jul/02/lord-mandelson-hs2-expensive-mistake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted September 30, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted September 30, 2023 (edited) We need a dictator They always seem to be good at getting the trains sorted. Mao, Hitler, Stalin. All oversaw successful railways. Edited September 30, 2023 by Spider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Winchester White Posted September 30, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted September 30, 2023 51 minutes ago, globaldiver said: https://amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013/jul/02/lord-mandelson-hs2-expensive-mistake Former business secretary said all the parties should think about the rail project again as its estimated cost rises to £42.6bn Jesus, it's going to cost that just to finish the outside of London to outside of Brum stretch! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
globaldiver Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 12 minutes ago, Winchester White said: Former business secretary said all the parties should think about the rail project again as its estimated cost rises to £42.6bn Jesus, it's going to cost that just to finish the outside of London to outside of Brum stretch! Quite. My personal view is that such funds would be better spent on links around the North and improving public transport within cities. I expect the PM to cancel the Manchester link. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted September 30, 2023 Moderators Share Posted September 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, globaldiver said: I expect the PM to cancel the Manchester link. And blame labour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 6 minutes ago, globaldiver said: I expect the PM to cancel the Manchester link. Indeed, the more they can do to fuck the country over the better it seems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 32 minutes ago, Casino said: And blame labour And call it woke. But GD is right. They should have sorted out local transport first, before looking at shaving 30 mins of a trip down south. Looks like we’ll get neither Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted September 30, 2023 Author Site Supporter Share Posted September 30, 2023 9 minutes ago, mickbrown said: And call it woke. But GD is right. They should have sorted out local transport first, before looking at shaving 30 mins of a trip down south. Looks like we’ll get neither I already posted a link to the east west improvements. To say we're not getting anything is wrong. Proof of the pudding and all that, but the work is already well underway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted September 30, 2023 Author Site Supporter Share Posted September 30, 2023 Dead leccy bus on Bury Road this morning. Maybe someone forgot to plug it in! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 45 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: I already posted a link to the east west improvements. To say we're not getting anything is wrong. Proof of the pudding and all that, but the work is already well underway. We were getting high speed to London!😃 As you say proof is in the pudding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter only1swanny Posted October 1, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted October 1, 2023 Just had a quick gander. I went down to just outside London on Tuesday, took 4 hours. Same trip on the train is 8.5... Not read through the tread but if they don't commit, (which as a not clued up average intelligence northerner) then they'll loose whatever votes they have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyther_Matt Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 3 hours ago, only1swanny said: Just had a quick gander. I went down to just outside London on Tuesday, took 4 hours. Same trip on the train is 8.5... Not read through the tread but if they don't commit, (which as a not clued up average intelligence northerner) then they'll loose whatever votes they have. You’ll have to stick a bit of meat on the bones there unless it was a 2 hour train to Euston and 6 1/2 hour walk from there?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 (edited) I was against HS2 in the first place money should have be spent on connection between manchester to the east and west of the country, connections to the west country and wales from Birmingham and then linking east of the country to the east coast line and beyond to the east of the county, the least priority was the london Birmingham link and it’s an utter disgrace the money spent on that section. Sooner this Tory government is given the last rites the better. Edited October 1, 2023 by Mounts Kipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted October 1, 2023 Author Site Supporter Share Posted October 1, 2023 10 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: I was against HS2 in the first place money should have be spent on connection between manchester to the east and west of the country, connections to the west country and wales from Birmingham and then linking east of the country to the east coast line and beyond to the east of the county, the least priority was the london Birmingham link and it’s an utter disgrace the money spent on that section. Sooner this Tory government is given the last rites the better. Do you think Starmer will scrap it? He's voted against it but now complained that it might be scrapped. It's like brexit: members of both parties want it, whilst members of both don't! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_spencer Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Do you think Starmer will scrap it? He's voted against it but now complained that it might be scrapped. It's like brexit: members of both parties want it, whilst members of both don't! Should the money have been spent on it in the first place? Probably not. Now it's spades in the ground time should it be finished properly? Yes. Now the country has already spaffed a small fortune on it to leave it unfinished would be a shit outcome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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